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DC DTV Animated Movies Anonymous 08/06/2020 (Thu) 19:18:13 No. 3495
Let's talk about the DC animated movies. What are some of your favorites? Which ones do you think are complete shit? Is there a particular comic that you would like to see get adapted? Justice League Dark Apokolips War finally put an end to the terrible New 52 animated universe. I was hoping they would take a break from the terrible shared universe shit and do stand alone movies for a few years, but it seems like they are just starting a new universe. The first movie will be a Superman movie based on that garbage comic Max Landis did a few years ago. And if you thought the artstyle was bad for the New 52 universe the new Superman movie's style is even worse. And if you somehow haven't figured out that DC is creatively bankrupt they've decided to go back and milk one of the animated movies that people actually like. They are doing an Under the Red Hood interactive prequel where you choose whether Jason lives or dies.
There is also a Deathstroke movie coming out soon.
>>3502 Will Terra be in it?
>>3503 From a quick search it doesn't look like it.
>>3502 It came out. I want to know the backstory behind it because it was promised as a 12 episode series. One episode came out. Then silence for months. Finally this movie was announced. I watched it, it was okay but it was not 12 episodes worth of content. >>3495 They're gonna fuck up Under the Red Hood now? The first movie was great. Don't make a worse version of it. Though the idea of an interactive choose your own route movie does sound unique.
>>3505 >it was promised as a 12 episode series It was a CW thing like they had done with Constantine. It was supposed to be 12 short episodes that would end up as movie length. Instead of doing it by episode they released the first half months ago, and just decided to skip releasing it on the CW app and send it straight to DVD.
>>3508 That's retarded. I wish they'd at least be transparent with this.
>>3495 > What are some of your favorites? All-star superman, Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths. That being said, I wasn't overly fond of the whole savior-complex the movie has for superman was portrayed, but that comes from the source material. Which ones do you think are complete shit? All nu-52 based ones, and killing joke. Really any made after they started doing nu-52
>>3509 Transparent about what exactly? It didn't come out how they initially wanted to release it, but it got fully released in the end.
>>3517 Nigga transparent about the release. There was radio silence for months till this movie was announced. Nothing was made clear on what was going on.
>>3504 That's disappointing but still it's a Deathstroke movie so it still has the potential to be good. It's not a Netflix thing is it?
>>3520 No you can pirate it right now.
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Holy shit Slade's wife has a squarer jaw than he.
>>3534 Is that what happens when you take Tarzan and Jane from the Disney movie and fuse them?
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Watched it, liked it. >Action/Animation is a lot better than the new 52 movies. A niggling problem I have is that in a few scenes there is some massive plot armor like Slade not being hit by a firing squad or a shark out of nowhere coming to the rescue but it's relatively fine. The Rose vs Shiva fight was pretty short but really well done, I liken it to the Wonder Woman fight in crisis on two earth with how cool it looked yet how short it was. >Lots of mannish looking women. Addy up there, these three >Story is pretty standard I guess It's nice eye-candy. I liked it well enough but not something I'd rewatch. Also the Hive guys looked like the Tau.
>>3534 I can only imagine how big the child's jaw will be when his testosterones kicks in. >>3537 >Yes that's a woman That's a tranny.
>>3537 How was Michael Chiklis as Slade?
>>3539 He is alright I guess? I'm not sure, none of the VAs stood out to me besides Jonathan's VA who was a bit on the bad side(his FATHERs raised a few eyebrows) and the Jackal's VA because I've heard him before and I can't point where.
>>3537 The middle gal looks like the type who could never get laid so she got buff to beat up and rape men.
>>3541 Clearly she rapes women.
>>3542 She's part of a sex trafficking ring, in the movie. Slade rescues a bunch of girls in the basement.
>>3495 Anyone know a good streaming site?
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>>3495 This is my own interpretation based on the trailer. >Robin cheats death Jason becomes Hush & offs other villains. >Batman saves Robin Jason becomes Red Robin but decides it's time to start killing villains. Maybe Batman dying saving Jason. >Robin dies Under the Red Hood movie plays out normally. Then there's no clue exactly how much of other branching paths there are. This is a neat experiment though.
>>3495 Legit though, is there a streaming service or a piracy site where I can watch all these toons. I literally had to rent Hush because I couldn't find a good torrent anywhere.
>>3607 kimcartoon for streaming rarbg for torrents
>>3502 Just finished watching it. Kind of bad story-wise. The animation wasn't great either.
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>>4420 Good movie ultimately but I think it was rushed. Probably to do with it's time length & budget I'm sure. Though it a few areas they really went all out on the animation to get some crisp frames of motions. If even a cynic like me, who sees no hope for big two comics in the future, likes this movie then I'm sure others will too.
>>3502 >>3534 >>3537 >>4420 >>5233 I'm just glad they stopped using that terrible artstyle they used to
>>5234 I didn't mind the Young Justice artstyle for the New 52 movies. The problem was the way worse animation & over reliance on CGI from the early 2000s. Those movies had a lot of problems.
>>3508 I noticed the movie was edited differently than that one episode. I thought the first half hour would be the same as the first episode but there's stuff in there that wasn't from the first episode. Makes me wonder how was this story going to be told originally.
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So they've announced what the next few movies will be. First up is a Batman: Soul of the Dragon which is a kung fu movie by Bruce Timm. Timm's only released garbage the last 10 years so I expect this to be shit. Second is Justice Society: World War II. I'm glad the JSA are getting recognition, but I expect the movie to be bogged down with modern takes on the characters like gay Alan Scott. And finally, they are adapting Batman: The Long Halloween into 2 movies.
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>>5797 >Timm's only released garbage the last 10 years Untrue! Plus most projects he does are TV writing credits & producing. Rarely does he direct projects anymore. >Justice Society: World War II >I expect the movie to be bogged down with modern takes on the characters I'm more worried how hamfisted the "muh nazi" narrative will be.
>>5798 Justice League vs The Fatal Five sucked. They marketed as a DCAU movie but it had no connections at all, and they removed all the bits that made Cruz somewhat interesting in the comics and turned her into the generic female character everyone expected. I never watched Gods and Monsters. I'm not highly motivated for it if your other example of a good movie is Justice League vs The Fatal Five.
>>5802 Nigga you're crazy.
>>5798 Gods and Monsters is pretty good. Fatal Five was trash. Batman and Harley Quinn is one of the worst DC Animated movies of all time and that was Timm's movie.
>>5803 Enlighten us then, why do you think it was at all good?
What are some comics you'd like to see get an animated movie? What character do you wish got their own movie? With how popular the CW shows were I'm surprised they never did a Green Arrow film or another Flash film. A Green Arrow Green Lantern movie might be good.
>>5806 Not the same Anon but Gods and Monsters is essentially taking the concepts of the original characters and using them in different ways that doesnt suck (some more different than others). >Superman Is essentially what Synder wanted the character to be, but done better. A serious calculating character that is more Neutral Good than Superman's Lawful Good. He walks a fine line of being a man of order and being a true authoritarian. >Wonder Woman Is the most changed with her being of New Genesis and arriving on Earth to escape the corruption after the murder of Apokolips's leadership. >Batman Is probably the most generic with Tim just making Man-bat the new Batman and a vampire. He's acts more like Terry than Bruce. The world of Gods and Monsters reflects this style of change and isnt afraid of just killing off known characters. At worst most people would fine the film kinda boring, its more of a "mystery-who done it" film than more typical Justice League style films. Basically if you liked the quiet moment of the original JL show, where its mostly talking and discussion you're going to enjoy this.
>>5816 anon, he was asking why the other anon thought the fatal five movie was good, not why you thought Gods and Monsters good.
>>5837 I was asking about Fatal Five yeah, but not that I mind the in-depth explanation about Gods and Monsters since I never watched it.
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Alright did some research on the Death in the Family interactive movie. There's 3 sections. A recap of the Under the Red Hood movie with little new footage & ends with Bruce at a diner with Clark. Jason survives his incident with Joker & becomes Hush then start murdering villains. Supposedly the shortest of the 3 segments. Batman dies & Jason becomes Red Robin. This route has the most choices & can end with Jason staying a mass murderer or trying to be good again. With Tim Drake becoming Batkid. Another route this can take is Talia reviving Bruce with the Lazarus pit but he's insane.
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The DCAMU was based on the New 52, but by the end they weren't even adapting New 52 stuff. I know New 52 gets shit on a lot, deservedly so, but there was still some good stuff there. Here's just a few of my ideas for what should have gotten movies. >angry new 52 supergirl >lemiere green arrow since we were at peak arrow popularity >demon knights >animal man >swamp thing >animal man swamp thing crossover >red hood and the outlaws was a rough book but could have been polished into a great movie like under the red hood Those are just a few off the top of my head. Anyone of these would have been better than fucking Death of Superman or Hush.
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>>5894 >no mention of Dial H for Hero For shame Anon.
>>5997 I know I liked this comic, but I don't remember much about it. All I remember is the main character fucking the granny and then being a faggot about it the next day.
>>5894 The New 52 had plenty of good stuff. But it is the correct choice to not focus purely on stuff from The New 52, simply because a lot of stories from there were sequels to earlier stories. New 52 wasn't a full reboot. You can't do the Damien Wayne story, or anything with the full Bat-Family, while only adapting New 52 stories, simply because most of their stories began before Flashpoint. I could say the same about a lot of other New 52 comics, but most of them never got movies, so as far as the movies go, it mostly applies to Batman stuff.
>>5894 >angry New 52 Supergirl I never saw her as particularly angry, but I did think her series was really good. The bit where she actually couldn't speak any language other than Kryptonese until quite a few issues in was a pretty neat idea, and they did a good job making you feel for her situation, I guess because her narration did a good job at showing how alone she felt. That might be hard to adapt to a movie, though. The fact that she spoke with an accent even after learning English (and I think they even reference it well into the Rebirth era), but I imagine a movie would butcher that and just make her into Starfire from the Teen Titans cartoon. >Animal Man Swamp Thing crossover This was awesome and I'd love to see a movie about it. But as you pointed out, you'd need to establish who Animal Man and Swamp Thing are, since casuals aren't very aware of their stories these days, despite Swamp Thing getting two movies, a cartoon, and a live action tv show back in the day. I actually think the second Swamp Thing movie is pretty great, but it isn't exactly the tone that modern Swamp Thing is known for. Also, don't forget Frankenstein. Frankenstein was in that crossover, too. I really liked his series. Gotta read more of his pre-Flashpoint stuff. Plus, Agent Frankenstein and the Creature Commandos would be an awesome movie regardless. I wish we got more stuff that explored those weird little bits of the DCU that casuals don't know about. Wonder Woman does a movie about a world war and it isn't world war II? They could have done The Creature Commandos, GI Robot, Dinosaur Island, the original Suicide Squad, the goddamn Justice Society. Instead we get World War I, and they don't even have the decency to mention Enemy Ace. I really loved Forever Evil, and thought it was an even better Crime Syndicate story than Earth-2. One of my favorite universal crossovers ever. However, I don't know if they could condense such an absurdly long crossover with so many tie ins which feature all the members of the Crime Syndicate into 80 or 90 minutes without losing a lot of what made it great. Also, I think part of why I liked it was all the autistic references to deep DCU lore, including previous iterations of the Crime Syndicate, and that probably wouldn't transfer well to other media. I actually appreciated the Death of Superman movie, since it's the best adaptation of that story so far. Things like replacing Mongul with Darkseid make total sense, and most of the cuts for time make sense too. It's too bad that a lot of the best stuff from the comics is the "World Without a Superman" part, which was not adapted to the movie, but again, I can understand why.
>>6056 >I wish we got more stuff that explored those weird little bits of the DCU that casuals don't know about I think they're still burned by Beware The Batman's attempt at exploring lesser-known villains blowing up in their face. Granted, it had an uphill battle between having to replace BTATB and getting schedule screwed.
>>6135 I think the Jonah Hex movie bombing probably scared them even more. But then that was marketed as a vehicle for that one slut from Transformers that Hollywood tried to convince us was hot, rather than being marketed as a cool cowboy movie with light connections to Batman and stuff. Then soon after, Green Lantern bombed despite Big Bang Theory getting hipsters to pretend they like it, even though all that meant is that they heard of it, and none of them actually cared enough to go see the movie. So now they've very nervous to do anything that isn't already popular. That's why the movies we do have are Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman, the characters that literally everyone in the world already knows. No Flash movie yet, despite a tv show (on CW, so that barely counts) and his appearance in Justice League. Suicide Squad was marketed as a Batman movie, and even that couldn't make Birds of Prey not a bomb. Also, Beware the Batman's animation style didn't help it one bit. It comes off as the joke replacement series teased at the end of Brave and the Bold. Still, these DTV movies seem like the perfect place to do weird stories. Instead we get dozens of Batman movies, including some that are adapting the same story multiple times. Plus we got two Death of Superman movies. We can't get one full length Jonah Hex? We can't get something about the original Suicide Squad, despite normalfags knowing who the Suicide Squad is now? We can't get the Justice Society? The Justice League International? I'm lowering my standards here, since I was originally arguing for the really weird stuff like The Haunted Tank, The War Wheel, or The Atomic Knights, but if I can't even get a Justice Society movie, I know I'll never get my dream mashup that includes all the other weird World War II stuff too.
>>6137 >We can't get the Justice Society? We are getting the Justice Society next year.
>>6137 >The Haunted Tank That and Enemy Ace are my two favorite DC war comics. Though I don't know how they'd do it now what with all the hubbub over Confederates, though Jeb Stuart calling German's Yankees and Federals isn't really controversial, at least it shouldn't be. Some of the Von Hammer stories deserve their own animated movies.
>>6144 What version? Classic Earth-Two version in World War II? Later Earth-Two version training the next generation? New Earth version that are old people who operate in the same world as the Justice League? That shitty New 52 version that only focused on heavily altered version of the classic Justice Society for like eight issues before becoming about the trinity again? Probably the last one just because it's the shittiest. >>6146 You raise a good point. They can never do anything with confederates, so I'd be surprised if Jonah Hex is ever prominent again, despite his story making very clear that he's apolitical and thinks humanity is all fucked up anyway. But SJWs have made anything but moral absolutism verboten. Of course, they think comics are all about moral absolutism, but anyone actually reading the stories would know otherwise. If we were allowed any sense of moral ambiguity, and any sense of not being for filthy casuals, we could have had Enemy Ace in the Wonder Woman movie, being a rival of Steve Trevor and helping to express the theme that wars aren't caused by cartoonish evil gods, but by disagreements and broad social issues that makes otherwise good people fight. Of course, that theme, while in the movie, didn't come across very strongly, IMO. Too busy being pulled in the other direction and talking shit about "Man's World" instead. The movie never should have been in World War I anyway.
>>6191 >What version? Literally all we know is the title. See >>5797
So Death in the Family came out a few days ago, how was it? I'm guessing it wasn't very good.
The Red Son movie was bad. Missed what the comic was saying for making Luthor a good White Man who lets President Obongo be his ruler. And Dyke Diana.
>>6620 The comic was terrible too, the time travel stuff was retarded, plenty characters were introduced with no real purpose whatosever, and Lutor representation was dumb.
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>>6625 >The comic was terrible too
Figure I'd revive this thread to talk about this movie, Justice League: The New Frontier. Why does this feel much more pozzed than I remember? Throwing around so-called "McCarthyism" (When he turned out to be right), having some bullshit "If you kill your enemies, they win", and the usual hold hands and sing Kumbaya shpeel of "Build bridges, not walls". If it wasn't for this coming out in 2008 (With the comic back in 2003), I'd almost think this was written by the current brand of Progressive writers that are involved with the industry.
>>8036 >Why does this feel much more pozzed than I remember? Capeshit has always been like this. You're just old enough to notice it now.
>wondy as the leader >barry allen time travel shit I don't have high hopes for this. Did anyone here watch Soul of the Dragon? How was it?
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>>10146 I didn't & probably won't watch this either. Both have the same problem the New 52 DC movies did. Low framerate animation with trailers poorly cut together with footage & dialogue that doesn't flow together. Soul of the Dragon even CHINKED Richard Dragon. A character I admittedly knew nothing about. Plus there's no reason for Batman to be there other than he's a recognizable brand name. Then this movie is just so uninteresting. Take the most colorful classic capes & suck all the color out? It's just a Zack Snyder cartoon. No that's not true. This movie at least gives the characters mostly accurate costumes.
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>>10146 I hope those five aren't the whole lineup, they are missing about half the team or more. Didn't expect actual good stuff, like adding Johnny Thunder or Red Tornado, but not even bothering with Alan Scott or Doctor Fate? Do the people that are making these movies even bothered to read some JSA comics or did they just saw the WW movie and the Flash tv show?
>>10160 dont do much DC, who is the guy with a bucket helmet next to Johnny Thunder?
>>10161 The original red tornado I believe.
>>10146 <more realistic style <yet minimal use of shading <use thicker outline and thinner lines for the "inside" details, thus the contrast between the two plus the use of the realistic style makes it even uglier <looking wonky even in the trailer shots >>10147 >Low framerate animation It started with the JL series and kept getting worse. That Soul of the Dragon pic looks like it has a bit of cel-like "grain"...that's kinda nice actually.
>>10147 >Lo framerate animation Just call it "limited animation" or "shot in threes" like any normal person would do; they are cartoons, not videogames.
>>10172 No. Fuck you. >>10167 >started with the JL series Not really. Plus a cartoon series is of course going to have less animation quality than a movie. Or rather that should be the norm. JL Action had this horrible problem too.
>>10173 <Not really It did. <Plus a cartoon series is of course going to have less animation quality than a movie Did you even watch BTAS, TNBA ,STAS and Batman Beyond? 90's cartoons had great fluid animation despite being TV series.
>>10174 Okay. JL still didn't have this level of terrible low framerate animation.
>>10174 >Did you even watch BTAS, TNBA ,STAS and Batman Beyond? 90's cartoons had great fluid animation despite being TV series. Did you even watch BTAS and STAS? Because Superman: The Animated Series deliberately has much worse animation than Batman did, specifically to be cheaper and less prone to errors caused by the korean animators. Then they used that style for the later seasons of Batman when it got revived, and for all the series that came after. The lesser animation quality began with Superman: The Animated Series. Or rather, Batman: The Animated Series has much better animation than practically every other TV cartoon ever made, except for Ren & Stimpy and a few others that are hardly even comparable.
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>>10184 I know, that's why I said it started with JL and it got worse afterwards. >>10187 STAS and BTAS share the same animation studios (Dong Yang, Koko and TMS and Jade) besides one (T.A.C), though BTAS had greater number of animation studios. <Then they used that style for the later seasons of Batman when it got revived Wrong, STAS still had the more rounded artstyle like BTAS, it was when TNBA came out they changed the artstyle to become sharper.
>>10196 Watch the series in order. Batman goes on haitus, Superman starts, there's a Batman crossover episode where Batman has a new artstyle to match Superman, then Batman comes back with the same artstyle he had in Superman.
I avidly watched BTAS and had the Batman: Mask of the Phantasm VHS when I was a kid. Around 2000 I finally got to see Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero. Both are good, but if I had the choice to watch them as of now, I'd go Mask of the Phantasm. It speaks more strongly to me.
>>5861 It's funny I always wanted to see a DC movie that was a fighting tournament. Now they're doing it. Hope they use some lesser known characters too like David Cain. >>6135 One thing that bugged me about that show was how they screwed up a lot of the lesser known villains. Professor Pyg I can get since you can't do him properly in a kids cartoon. But Anarky? They royally fucked him up. And then they decided to give Deathstroke daddy issues as his motivation. It's damn shame tbh.
>>10251 I gave you model sheets and list of animation studios as actual proofs. Also, the newer art style is actually harder to animate, why do you think Rubber Hose style and god forbid, Calarts are both rounded.


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