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“Emergency” Covid Measures Anonymous 05/08/2020 (Fri) 02:41:16 Id:a4e465 No. 89
“Emergency” Covid Measures: Are We Witnessing the Collapse of Individual Rights and Democracy? > April 27, 2020 > In Global Life-Death Struggle, Democracy Changes Course > By Jamie Dettmer VOA > Outside wartime nothing like it as ever been seen before in modern Western history. The lockdowns by democratic states with their draconian constraints on civil liberties and private enterprise fly in the face of an historical progression that’s seen the size and roles of governments shrunk and individual liberty boosted. > As governments mobilize resources and coerce people in a life-and-death struggle to contain the coronavirus and mitigate its impact, the state has been unbound. > People have been confined indoors, police powers have been expanded, data-surveillance increased and businesses shuttered. All with little debate. > The size and scope of the state’s role in the economy prompted by the coronavirus dwarfs anything mounted to handle the 2008 financial crash. Britain, France and other European countries have offered so far loans and subsidies worth around 15% of their GDPs. America’s stimulus package is at around 10% of GDP. > The U.S. fiscal stimulus package was dubbed by Larry Kudlow, President Donald Trump’s economic adviser, “the single largest Main Street assistance program in the history of the United States.” > In France, President Emmanuel Macron’s government not only passed legislation giving it the legal right to control the movement of people, it also seized the power to manage prices and requisition goods. In the United States, President Trump has used the Defense Production Act to prevent the export of surgical masks and gloves. > State power is now at its most intrusive since the Second World War. For die-hard advocates of free markets and limited government the abrupt change in direction is horrifying. For others it is less so, even something to be embraced, a harbinger of the future, a turning point that will end up re-reordering their countries. > For those on the progressive left, the reemergence of state power is a vindication of long-held beliefs that market-based models for social organization fail the majority of people. They hope the crisis will provide the opportunity to refashion along less market-oriented and more socialist lines. In the United States, supporters of Bernie Sanders say the crisis has exposed for all to see America’s threadbare social-safety net and the need for a government-run single-payer health care system. > Last week, Britain’s former Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, said that the government’s massive and unprecedented underwriting of the British economy and labor market vindicated his pre-coronavirus election manifesto, the most left-wing program ever presented by the modern Labour Party. > On Europe’s far right, too, there is self-preening as well as hope that the eventual political outcome from the coronavirus will be along lines more to their liking. A future of strong nation states and powerful central governments far less hedged in by Brussels is what they hope the coronavirus will lead to. > Europe’s nationalist populists have long demanded more border controls and have advocated for a break with the Schengen system of passport-free travel. They hope the imposition of temporary border controls, in the face of the disapproval of Brussels, will lead to the break-up of Schengen permanently. Luca Zaia, governor of Italy’s hard-hit Veneto region and a member of Matteo Salvini’s populist Lega party, told reporters last month that “Schengen no longer exists” and forecast, “it will be remembered only in the history books.” more...
>>89 ...continued > Some are not waiting for history to reward them. > Hungary’s firebrand populist Viktor Orbán, a proponent of what he dubs ‘illiberal democracy,’ has seized the moment to accrue more power. Since his reelection in 2010 civil libertarians have denounced him for initiating a concerted erosion of democratic checks and balances, including the curbing of judicial independence, the politicization of the civil service and state interference in media and civil society. > Last week, the country’s parliament, which is controlled by his right-wing nationalist party, gave Orbán the power to rule by decree indefinitely, shrugging off opposition demands for at least an end-date to his one-man-rule in the heart of the European Union. “The Hungarian situation offers us a glimpse of how world politics may function during and after the coronavirus crisis unless we give it careful thought,” frets Umut Korkut, a politics professor at Scotland’s Glasgow Caledonian University. > Tom Palmer, a vice president at the Atlas Network, a non-profit which advocates for free-market economic policies and limited government, agrees. The Hungarian example — as well as the unbinding of the state elsewhere in the West — prompts his alarm. “There is a rising tide of authoritarian statism coming,” he says. > But some governments appear just to be trying to manage public fear with no aim to prolong intrusive power. Others are exploiting it. In many cases established democracies are giving people enough confidence to accept restrictions in exchange for health security. Positive examples include South Korea and Israel, where the introduction of tough measures reflect a strong public consensus for action. In Britain, an opinion poll this week showed that two-thirds of the public back police enforcement of lockdown measures. Italy’s Prime Minister, Giuseppe Conte, got overwhelming public approval for his nationwide shut-down. > But the unbinding of the state does raise serious questions about government overreach and individual rights. > Other analysts and commentators remain more sanguine, pointing out that while many Western governments have taken emergency powers during this viral outbreak, no other democracy has given a leader full control as in Hungary. Faced with the prospect of tens of thousands – even hundreds of thousands – of deaths, Western governments have had little option but to expand their authority. People want governments to do whatever is needed to save lives. Once the acute phase of the pandemic is over, everything can revert to how it before, they say. > The crisis may even allow for an improvement of democracy — a renewal involving reform of hidebound bureaucracy and a reduction in red tape as well as a greater nimbleness and responsiveness by government. The fight against the Coronavirus has exposed bureaucratic inertia in the West, a leaden-footedness and a failure to act quickly enough. Critics say bureaucracies have become arthritic, adjusting too slowly to the burgeoning crisis and have been reluctant to embrace innovation and flexibility. > With the exception of Germany, many Western states have bungled virus testing and been sluggish to embrace the greatest strength of advanced democracies — their industries and manufacturers. As in Britain, so in the United States, commercial and university laboratories were blocked for weeks from developing their own tests for the virus. The government-designed testing kits rolled out at first were faulty. > Belatedly, Western governments have started to try to be more responsive and to be smarter in the securing the resources needed to fight the insidious virus, cutting back on red tape, opportunistically embracing innovation, trying to reinvent themselves while tossing aside economic orthodoxy, all for the collective good. That all might leave a lasting legacy. > But it remains unclear whether the unbound state will relinquish its expanded authority once the crisis is over. “Some will reassure themselves that it is just temporary and that it will leave almost no mark, as with Spanish flu a century ago,” the Economist magazine editorialized last month. more...
>>90 ...continued > “However, the scale of the response makes covid-19 more like a war or the Depression. And here the record suggests that crises lead to a permanently bigger state with many more powers and responsibilities and the taxes to pay for them,” the editors noted. Governments are never good at handing back powers they have seized. > Outside of the democratic states of the West, the picture is gloomier. Dictators and strongman are using the crisis to tighten their grip on power. Many are fearful of political and social revolt triggered by scarcity, fear and an uncontrolled spread of the virus. > In Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev has cited the threat of the coronavirus to crack down even harder on opposition to his rule. So, too, in Cambodia, where Hun Sen has been arresting dissidents on grounds they’re spreading false information about the virus and he’s scapegoating Muslims for its emergence and introducing the contagion into the country. > “In Thailand, Cambodia, Venezuela, Bangladesh, and Turkey, governments are detaining journalists, opposition activists, healthcare workers, and anyone else who dares to criticize the official response to the coronavirus,” says Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch. > “For authoritarian-minded leaders, the coronavirus crisis is offering a convenient pretext to silence critics and consolidate power. Censorship in China and elsewhere has fed the pandemic, helping to turn a potentially containable threat into a global calamity. The health crisis will inevitably subside, but autocratic governments’ dangerous expansion of power may be one of the pandemic’s most enduring legacies,” he fears. > The coronavirus has given governments in the Middle East some breathing space from protest movements that have been burgeoning this year. Public demonstrations have been banned on social distancing grounds. But the Virus and food scarcity risks upending regimes. In Beirut, protesters flouted a curfew last week chanting, “We want to eat, we want to live.” In Tripoli, the country’s second-largest city, protesters shouted: “Dying from the coronavirus is better than starving to death.” > A precipitous fall in oil prices risks destabilizing even strong central powers. With revenues plunging, Saudi Arabia’s ruling family is also at risk, say analysts. Few, though, believe another a coronavirus-sparked repeat of an Arab spring would give rise to the emergence of democracy in the region — more likely just a swap out of authoritarians. > Speaking to the French nation last month, France’s Emmanuel Macron promised his people, “The day after we emerge victorious, will not be like the day before.” His words were meant to reassure the French that the virus would give rise to helpful reform. But they could prove prophetic in quite the opposite way for many countries. Source: https://www.sofmag.com/emergency-covid-measures-are-we-witnessing-the-collapse-of-individual-rights-and-democracy/ Archive: http://archive.md/FhIka
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As I summed it up on another site: >So, we have a virus that's wiping out Chinks, (Sand)niggers, and boomers; at best gives you a dry flu while making you sterile, at worst fucks up your lungs to where you might as well get it over with; governments and the media are getting into fullscale information war with each other with making statements one week and being correct/contradicted while on the air to where no one knows who is telling the truth, with even Literal Whos throwing their two cents in; leeches using this as a time to rack up all the money/power they ever needed/wanted; the inability to even test or identify if someone even has the virus until they're on their literal deathbed; being lockdowned into the warmer parts of the year when the most "promising" evidence that has come forth is that the virus cannot survive in a warm/humid environment; AND the only positive thing to come out of this is that crime and death rates have significantly lowered due to everyone staying at home and the problem-people all being complete morons and dying from their stupidity, and foreign production is going to see a significant downturn as people demand that domestic production starts up again. Did I leave anything out?
>>92 Have a date on that broadcast?
>>94 it was his 22 April 2020 broadcast - https://www.bitchute.com/video/mz1w2GA6ISRE/
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http://archive.vn/mUAsO >The pandemic has also created a cremation bottleneck. Funeral homes across Westchester and Rockland counties typically use two crematories, at Ferncliff Cemetery in Hartsdale or Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx. >In the Metro New York area, in addition to Ferncliff and Woodlawn, there is Green Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn, U.S. Cremation Company in Middle Village, and St. Michael’s Cemetery in East Elmhurst… >Staff at the crematory at Ferncliff Cemetery in Hartsdale has been working 16- to 18-hour days to handle a spike in demand in the coronavirus outbreak….doubling its normal number of cremations, said Phil Tassi, a member of the cemetery association’s board of directors and president of the New York State Association of Cemeteries. >Despite the long hours, there’s still a two-week backlog at Ferncliff, Tassi said… >“We’re running at full capacity, roughly 20 cremations a day,” he said. “Our average would be 11 in normal circumstances.” >Ferncliff has five cremation chambers, called retorts, and Tassi explained that a cremation can take anywhere from two-and-a-half to seven hours. >The burial side of Ferncliff’s business is no less busy, with burials up 300% from normal, Tassi said. >The crematory backlog has kept funeral directors on the phone, trying to find space wherever they can… >That bottleneck has put Flower on Interstate 95 to Camden, New Jersey, twice this week, transporting six bodies in need of cremation. >“I called every crematory within 100 miles: Upstate New York, Connecticut, New Jersey,” Flower said. “And I couldn’t find anybody that could accommodate me right away.” >Camden is 112 miles from Yonkers, but, for Flower, the four-hour round trip has been the difference between action and inaction, between clearing cases and not. Ferncliff’s two-week backlog won’t work for him. >“I can’t wait two weeks because that’s two weeks from the cases I have now,” he said. “What if I get five more, which I’ve been doing about every single day? I get five to 10 more a day. I’ve been turning people away because I can’t clear the cases I have.” >His funeral home has two refrigerators to hold bodies to be buried weeks from now and he converted one of his chapels into a temporary morgue, dropping the air-conditioning to 45 degrees while those bodies await burial “in the next couple of days.
>>111 >hasbara got BTFOd in his other thread, so he made this one hahaha, this has actually been a longstanding problem with kike yorks infrastructure. due to massive budget cuts over the last five years, they have been cutting back on posthumous services such as autopsies and cremations which, when put into OP's context, can also hilariously point out how time consuming it is to cremate a body, which further reinforces the positions of holocaust de-bunkers http://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/ so much for the 6 gorzillion! anyway, when you combine scaled down services with the flu season in an aging and unhealthy population, there will be a spike in deaths. but this jewish news outlet larping as christcucks is so trustworthy and I am so utterly convinced that this manufactured crisis is real. we should all get injected with vaccines created in a bio-weapons facility in pissreal and go to war with iran as soon as possible
>>111 really jangles the ol' peppercorns
>>112 I got slap fight recently whit someone when report came that wuhan burned shitload of bodies in two week. They just reduced to see how time consuming burning bodies is. Even whit modern top of line crematoriums it takes 90minto burn bodies. Then there are bones to deal whit. Best crematoriums claim they can be run 24h. But there has to be limit how long you can run it nonstop. So to achieve that they pretty much had to make some sort mass incarnation. Take coal powerplant. Calculate how much coal per human body. Then dump them in by truckload at time. As for holocaust, even if they cut back everywhere. They plan was to get rid bodies. So no need to get bones out there at once. Some point you need to empty it or you can't even fit fuel there. Also there is proplem whit heat and strain. You end up running that oven hot around clock. Brick Owen's weren't made for that, espesily if they are fueld by coal. If there was some sort mass crematoriums or other to show around. That would be different story.
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Yes - 2018 COVID-19 Test kits (382200) exports by country in 2018 Source: https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/ALL/year/2018/tradeflow/Exports/partner/WLD/nomen/h5/product/382200 Archive: https://archive.ph/gxjGr spreadsheet downloaded and then uploaded here https://files.catbox.moe/v6xc42.xlsx pics - screenshot, interesting bottom of the page, and excerpt from spreadsheet Guize, I don't know what to do with this information, so if you can do anything with it, great.
>In 2018, Top exporters of COVID-19 Test kits are United States ($7,222,382.19K ), European Union ($6,980,107.93K , 103,727,000 Kg), Germany ($4,385,659.01K , 100,832,000 Kg), Netherlands ($2,290,878.90K , 10,462,100 Kg), United Kingdom ($1,875,643.94K , 11,520,000 Kg) Why did they need all those tons of test kits? Something sounds wrong.
>>203 Civil crematoriums have to care about collecting ashes after every single cremation. You get a lot more capacity once you disregard any respect for the deceased and just shove in as many bodies as the oven will take.
Really creates interference in the holocaust narrative's logical coherence, iykwim.
>>1767 Cremation ashes are not ashes. All burnable material gasses off, there is no ash left. Cremation ashes are just the pulverized bone left behind. It's just bone dust.
>>1535 Those weren't test kits specifically for COVID-19. Those are simply test kits that can be used to detect COVID-19.
It's under "Additional product information:" >Diagnostic reagents based on polymerase chain reaction (PCR) nucleic acid test So yeah, it makes a functional COVID-19 test kit but the stuff is a lot more generic than that.
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So while the United states is on fire tonight there's been a slow bass boosting throughout the former states of the Commonwealth regarding two potential incoming events in the Not So Great White North of Canada regarding two major events, 1) Ontario going back to a lock down to stage 2 and 2) The spaztastic reveal of a master plan to set up potentially useless Corona Coff based Concentration Camps not unlike the (ineffective ones) in China. Now this was posted previously on here but there was a lack of context not only on the original source of the leak, but whether or not this leak was real to begin with. So without further ado here we go people. But this time we've got real sauce on WTF is kinda going down (Including archives) 1) The original leak of the LPC Plan for the Corona Coff Camps came from the GodLikeProductions page : https://www.godlikeproductionsPlease use archive.today/forum1/message4551385/pg1 , threads a god damn mess and if any anon can find any further nuggets you're welcome to note them here. 2) From God Like Productions it got leaked to Gab, https://gabPlease use archive.today/RemiBoudreau/posts/105035234228420328 / and some Qanon forums... where nobody did any further look up 3) Until it got to this forum : https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/ / https://archive.ph/BmOxW 4) Where from there, there were two big intel dumps given by some anonymous commentators : Item A) A massive requisition for Tear Gas going out to Saskatchewan : https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-20-00926463 / https://archive.ph/9uUiw B) (((Isolation Camps))) requisition : https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-ZL-105-38463 / https://archive.ph/17dMN for the camps there's an estimated $37 million earmarked for it. But so far no takers. 5) But then came the big drop around October 9th. when Hiller an MPP from Queen's Park in Ontario asked for details regarding the requisition for these potential isolation camps and it turns out that they cut him off : https://www.Webm or instances.invidio.us/watch?feature=Webm or instances.invidio.us&v=PSm2ZF63KoE 6) Last update on this has come from Cairns News in Australia mentioning that there's Eternal Anglo Plans to implement these types of Camps across all former Commwealth countries : https://archive.ph/BROGv Now there's also a big rumor from the original Gab thread as to who the leaker is, sadly it's another boomer with a computer that can't help but come off as a Spaz: @CanewDew "yes imo the liberal mla from Crnbk east Kootenay riding. Search yourself as i cant..too close and don't want a trail.for I am radared and my link to him must kept closed. Good luck and follow thru..too important" - Apparently this leak may have actually come from MLA Tom Shypitka out from BC if the rumor be true. So right now we've got something smoking and that ain't the Canadian Goose you ate for game meats that night. But we're left with a couple of other mysteries: 1) We've surmised the leaker for this being out in BC, but why was there a federal meeting but not a provincial collective one? 2) Why are there no names given for the heads that were in this very same meeting regarding the internment camps? Who in the Liberal Party was running this meeting out ? 3) Is this entire plan secretly hinging up on a Biden win for the US election? Those are some starting mysteries to consider. Also included is the actual PDF for the camp requisitions but there's not specifics about the bidding or even the sites for a contract. So there's plenty more to dig the remaining details of the leak.
>>1535 You're a fucking idiot grasping at straws that don't exist to try and prove your dumb conspiracy theory anon, these tests are generalized. A lot of tests can be generally be used to detect many diseases, as well as COVID-19, just like >>1830 and >>1831 say. Or do we go into the fact that if you go to that link and switch out the 200 with a 100, it directly tracks the amount of cotton swabs sold, and I'm sure cotton swabs, which are used literally everywhere when it comes to checking for diseases in medical facilities, are somehow part of a secret plot where countries around the world were planning to throw it into chaos with a disease... not
>>1767 More bodies means a larger quantity of material to process. If you drop a sugar cube inside a drink, it will dissolve slower than having the same quantity of sugar as a finely ground powder. For rapid and effective burning of any material you want is as great of a surface area to volume ratio as you can get but what you are proposing is increasing volume, so what do you think happens to the time required to cremate a body? You speak of the sanctity of the deceased being thrown aside for efficiency by piling more inside but that would actually make it go slower. Since the oven will always be generating heat around the body from the outside, piling more in will always result it either the exact same rate or slower. It will never accelerate from you dropping a larger quantity inside, especially when it comes to cremation since human bodies will contain a fairly significant quantity of water. Contrary to what Hollywood and self-appointed "historians" will have you believe, humans are not actually that easily flammable, the fat inside the human body is nowhere near enough to cause them to combust and cook themselves until ash. In fact, the analogy regarding powdered sugar is a lot more relevant than you may think considering the fact that there are plenty of proposals by people that bodies could in the future, instead of being cremated, be dropped into liquid nitrogen, broken up through the use of vibration and then have the human flesh powder disposed of instead. Want to know why they would go through such hoops just to get rid of a dead body? Because that shit takes forever and there is no magic trick to make it go faster, what you have is effectively a fairly heavy bag of water and so people are looking to freezing and powderising them as a solution.
>>1535 PCR is just a means by which one can test for the presence of a particular sequence of DNA in a DNA sample. In order for these kits to be specifically designed for COVID-19, they would contain primer samples that would correspond to the coronavirus. I doubt that specific COVID-19 testing kits would amount to the kinds of tonnage indicated in those screenshots, it would make more sense that those quantities refer to total, general PCR kits. So then why are they specifically labelled 'COVID-19 Test kits'? I assume that the name for PCR kits was changed in the database, just for the sake of those who might be ordering these kits who don't necessarily know that the kits they require to test for COVID are PCR kits. It's idiot-proofing. There might be some kind of wayback machine means of finding out if these products were ever labelled differently?
Canada fema camps will happen regardless of biden, and I am suprised any of the canadian politicians are against the camps, most of the population will go through with it.
>>1838 i guess this makes somewhat sense. my dad is part of this accounting firm that did some work on some contracting business to build mobile homes and the gov't made a purchase for like 100,000+. but then he went on to say this was for the stupid injuns who can't isolate at all.
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>>111 >Jew York can only burn 20 bodies in a day And yet in auschwitz... :^)
>still falling for the covid psyop Pathetic.
>http >no encryption >sending all those toxic words over plaintext so your provider can read them https://archive.vn/mUAsO Fix OP please, thank you.
What now, boys? This shit is getting too real, innawoods when?
>>3507 Take your meds, schizonigger.
>>3745 he has a point theres no reason he shouldnt be using https
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Oregon governor Kate "Flush it Down" Brown encourages citizens to become government informants for COVID-1984 rules.
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>>89 If you don't kill your enemies,they win. Then, they will enslave and kill you. Always kill your enemies, disregarding any law.
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>German quarantine breakers to be held in refugee camps, detention centers >Germans who repeatedly refuse to quarantine after being exposed to COVID-19 will be held in detention centers — and even under police guard, according to reports >Officials in the state of Saxony — which is experiencing one of the worst outbreaks in the European nation — have already approved plans to hold quarantine-breakers in a fenced-off section of a refugee camp, the Telegraph said. Another state, Brandenburg, also plans to use a section of a refugee camp >In Schleswig-Holstein, repeat offenders will be kept in a special area in a juvenile detention center, the report said, citing Germany’s Welt newspaper >The state of Baden-Württemberg has two hospitals with rooms to hold the scofflaws, which will be guarded by police, the report said >States have been granted powers to do so under the disease protection act, an emergency law that was passed by the German Bundestag in March and renewed in November, Dr. Christoph Degenhart, an expert in administrative law, told Die Welt https://archive.is/1pYnF >New York Assembly Bill Would Allow State To Detain People If Deemed A Threat To Public Health >A bill being introduced in the New York State Assembly would allow the governor and other health officials to detain anyone suspected of being a “carrier” of a contagious disease, like the coronavirus >The legislation is sponsored by Assemblyman N. Nick Perry and was previously introduced in 2015 due to Ebola virus, but never passed. The bill’s language says that if the governor “declares a state of health emergency due to an epidemic of any communicable disease” then the state can take steps to detain any individuals sick or suspected of being sick >“Upon determining by clear and convincing evidence that the health of others is or may be endangered by a case, contact or carrier” the governor may, after consulting the health commissioner, “order the removal and/or detention of such a person or of a group of such persons by issuing a single order, identifying such persons either by name or by a reasonably specific description of the individuals or group being detained.” https://archive.is/qG4wi
When the US was a free country, Americans could decide what was best for their lives. You could say that you plan to find a job today, enroll in college tomorrow, travel to Miami next week, buy a car next month, and start a business next year. Now Americans must wait for decrees from the state like slaves. Today you must get a mandatory vaccine, turn in your guns tomorrow, private property will be nationalized next week, you must get a microchip implant next month, and you'll sent to the concentration camps next year. No one is reponsible for anything because everyone is just following orders. The elites want everything, but they don't need you. Wake up. Look what is going down.
Why are you ignorant motherfuckers so intent on being plague rats?
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>>89 Power grab power grab more power grab. And mass poisoning entire populations with 'vaccines' for population control as a globalist bonus.
>>7119 (((wuhan flu))) is just a political tool for more control. how can they call a (((virus))) that has 99% survival rate a pandemic? what a fucked up world we live in.
>>7127 >Gestapo The electric jew has turned your brain to mush, or you're intentionally spreading bs. KYS.
>>7127 If you have a shred of balls left you kill the Gestapo off as they are nothing but enemy combatants at that point. All this doomchatter is pathetic.
>>7089 Why is "freedom" always freedom TO things, and never freedom FROM things. Like, yeah it's fucking great that I'm free to choose from twelve different fast food hamburgers, but what if someone would rather be free from being one paycheck from homelessness or never being able to afford to get their teeth fixed unless they win the lottery? >enroll in college tomorrow, travel to Miami next week, buy a car next month, and start a business next year You can't afford to do any of that because you work a job that pays slave wages. Is that freedom?
Technology is a miracle these days, ain't it?
>>7329 >My friend's daughter works in a place where someone else had a thing happen to her This is why hearsay is not allowed as evidence in court. And this is literally THREE LEVELS of hearsay. Looked up SJS, too. It's an autoimmune disorder that can be triggered (not caused) by a reaction to some medication. Correlation not being causation, in this case it could have resulted from a reaction to something other than the vaccine, for example antibiotics. Not the same as an allergic reaction, and it doesn't typically cause blindness except sometimes conjunctivitis in children (and that won't lead to blindness without some hilariously incompetent medical care). Point is, SJS is extremely rare and unless you're genetically predisposed to having it, neither the COVID vaccine or anything else is going to cause this. Same as you're not going to have a problem with peanuts if you're not allergic to them, and you're not going to die from sex unless your heart is weak. Seriously, bro. Either find a stupider community to post your retardation, or up your propaganda game. The COVID vaccine isn't going to do jack shit to stop the disease, but it's not harmful or dangerous either.
>>7321 Because freedom FROM things means you are forcing, taking away the freedom of, other people to do things. You do have freedom FROM things, too. You have the freedom to not be robbed and murdered, though when you put it that way, you realize that you're really stretching the definition of "freedom." However, you do not have the freedom to force other people to give you stuff, which is what you want to do in your post. See, you can't do it because of the freedom we just discussed, the freedom to not be robbed. They can't take your stuff, you can't take their stuff. Yes, it would be nice to have things the way you say, but then please explain a way to do it without forcing other people to give you stuff (which of course is just another way of saying robbing them).
>>7329 >those videos Got any more of that? Normalfaggots would even start to question that shit.
>>7340 >You have the freedom to not be robbed and murdered Eminent domain, civil forfeiture, and cops basically having legal immunity fly in the face of that. Yeah, it's pretty unlikely unless you're a nigger acting a fool, but if a police officer decides to pull you over for no reason, tell you to exit the vehicle for no reason, and then shoot you to death because he felt "threatened", literally nothing will stop him and he will likely face no real consequences. >Social welfare is asking for free stuff No, you dumb cunt. I pay taxes same as everyone else; about 20% of every paycheck. Is it too much to ask that it be used for my own healthcare rather than corporate bailouts and turning foreign children into charcoal?
>>7339 >Either find a stupider community to post your retardation, or up your propaganda game Why should I take advice from a fag that contributes nothing and instead just comments on everything he sees? >but it's not harmful or dangerous either. Ok, retard.
>>7361 >Why should I take advice from someone who sourced real medical literature to form his argument, rather than cherry picking infographics made by retards on Facebook It's not about you, dumbshit. I already know I cannot convince your screaming tinfoilhat ass. Debate on an open forum like this is for the purposes of convincing others. And that's not something you can't do with pretty pictures and crying over a couple people dying somewhere sometime. What's next? Are you going to pull that old salt about how there are microchips in there that will track everyone's movements? What about the one with the lizard people wearing human skin? Oh wait! There's the one about vaccine ingredients being only "a couple of elements" different from poison. Try that one, that one really gets those twitter grandmas!
>>7372 >Debate on an open forum like this is for the purposes of convincing others. I doubt anyone else came here for your lukewarm takes. You really think they opened up their browser, typed in 8chan.se/pol/ and opened up the catalog in search of your analysis? Because from the immensely valuable contribution you have provided from your expertise on human-leather clad lizards and the age demographics of twitter users, it seems you have absolutely nothing of value to contribute. Only commentary on what you consider to be socially acceptable and a repetition of whatever you understood from a cursory glance on Wikipedia.
>>7362 They injected a lot of elderly here yesterday. RIP them.
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>>7374 >Nobody cares about what you post And yet you seem entirely convinced that they care about what YOU post. Funny how that works out. >Vaccines cause autism >He actually believes in lizard people Now everyone KNOWS you're firmly in the tinfoil-hat gang, rather than just suspecting it. Good job revealing your power level, I guess. Oh, by the way, I found a graph too. It's super official and most definitely correct just like yours! I'd attach the summary of the findings, but I think it really speaks for itself.
There's no vaccine for AIDS, but there's a vaccine developed for the Wuhan flu after 1 year? WTF?
>>7618 And it's so good that vaccine companies are given total immunity from any and all liabilities in advance. >>7515 >still zero content I guess you were probably too busy choking on cock. Because I find it highly doubtful you can keep a job with reading compresehension this garbage. >And yet you seem entirely convinced that they care about what YOU post. I don't expect anyone to care about my posts, I expect them to give a shit about the information that I attach in addition to my post. >Funny how that works out. It works out in the sense that you still have nothing.
>>7650 >He's gone from photoshopped charts to photoshopped internet "headlines" You're not providing information; you're providing propaganda. Information is telling people what a medical disorder actually is. Propaganda is cherry-picking one instance of that disorder happening and claiming it happens because of something you don't like. I'm educating; you're fearmongering. What are you so afraid of, anyway? Afraid your pathetic little bubble-boy immune system can't handle a little medication? One wonders how badly you'll shit yourself when someone tells you how much rat droppings and insect parts are in the food you eat every day.
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>>7651 Oh, by the way, I found the unedited version of that "anal swabs" piece.
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>>7652 https://archive.fo/k2GZP COVID Anal Swabs for Beijing Residents More Accurate, Says Chinese Expert >More than a million Beijing residents undergoing coronavirus testing amid a fresh outbreak have been administered anal swabs, which are considered more accurate and raise the chances of detecting COVID-19, said a Chinese disease specialist. >The key districts of Daxing and Dongcheng began a mass testing drive on Friday after a nine-year-old boy tested positive for the more virulent strain of the virus, first discovered in London and the southeast of England last month. >Health authorities in the Chinese capital said they were aiming to screen more than two million people in 48 hours. Among them, around 1.6 million inhabitants in Daxing were to be given antibody tests, as well as throat, nasal and rectal nucleic acid swabs. >Anal swabs have been in use since last year, including in the major port city of Shanghai, but the method is so far reserved for individuals in potential COVID-19 hotspots, according to an infectious disease expert quoted by China's state broadcaster CCTV on Saturday. >"Since the start of the coronavirus outbreak, we've tested for the virus using mainly throat swabs. Its characteristics are convenience and speed, so it's suitable for large-scale testing," said Beijing You'an Hospital's Li Tongzeng. "Nasal swabs are more accurate than throat swabs, but nasal swabs can be uncomfortable." >He added: "In some asymptomatic cases or in individuals with mild symptoms, they tend to recover from the illness very quickly. It's possible that there will be no trace of the virus in their throat after three to five days. >"What we've found is that in some infected patients, the coronavirus survives for a longer period of time in their digestive tract or excrement than in their respiratory tract." >Li said rectal swabs increase the rate of detectability and lower the chances of a missed diagnosis. >"Of course, anal swabs aren't as convenient as throat swabs, so they're only being used on individuals in key quarantine areas. This will reduce the return of false positives," he added. >According to guidelines published by China's National Health Commission, anal swabs are to be administered 3 to 5 centimeters (1.2 to 2 inches) inside the rectum. The swab is to be rotated and removed before being securely placed inside a sample container. >On Friday, a resident of Tangshan in Hebei province, about 120 miles east of Beijing, told CCTV that she was given double rectal swabs as part of citywide testing in her area. She said each swab took just under 10 seconds. >A few medical papers release since the start of the outbreak last year have suggested anal swabs as a more accurate way of testing for COVID-19, but its merits have yet to be widely accepted by the Chinese medical community. >Wuhan University pathologist Yang Zhanqiu told Communist Party newspaper Global Times on Saturday that throat and nasal swabs remained the "most efficient" method of testing, given that the coronavirus is contracted via the upper respiratory tract. >Beijing's efforts to eventually test all 21.5 million of its residents are expected to continue as it battles its second wave, which began with a cluster of locally transmitted cases in mid-December. >Municipal spokesperson Tian Tao said 17.46 million people in Beijing—roughly 80 percent of its population—have already been tested since the start of the new outbreak. >Residents have gathered in schools, stadiums, shopping malls and public squares for the mass testing drive, which comes at a crucial moment—just two weeks before the country celebrates Lunar New Year, a festive period ordinarily marked by hundreds of millions of commutes home. >China recorded 82 new cases of community infection on January 26, the national health authority said Tuesday. Among them were two locally transmitted cases in Beijing. There were also 56 asymptomatic cases, which China considers separately. >Most of the positive cases were concentrated in the northeast of the country, where tens of millions of residents remain in some form of lockdown in the provinces of Hebei, Jilin and Heilongjiang. >China's total confirmed cases now stand at 89,197. Its death toll rose by one to 4,636 following an additional fatality on Monday.
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https://archive.fo/39dci Compulsory vaccination against Covid-19 in the army, voluntary in the National Guard National Guard is an army of volunteers, so it goes without saying that it would be voluntary for them up until the point it is made mandatory for the civilian population as well >Vaccination against Covid-19 is scheduled to be compulsory in the Latvian army, while it will be voluntary in the National Guard, Defence Minister Artis Pabriks (AROUND) told TV3 this morning. >The minister reiterated that the army was prepared to vaccinate against Covid-19's own forces, and it was estimated that the armed forces would be able to vaccinate around 1,500 individuals a day. >When the vaccination of military personnel might take place, it is not clear at the moment because the country simply does not have vaccines. The original plans foresee that mass vaccination of militants will take place in April, but they could have changed due to problems with the availability of vaccines. >Pabriks hopes that some groups of military personnel could be allowed to get vaccinated earlier than others, such as those on missions. According to him, some foreign soldiers in Latvia had already been vaccinated against Covid-19 on the part of their countries. And it gets even better when you consider the following https://archive.fo/pN3FN Canadian military personnel headed to Latvia will get COVID-19 vaccine later despite virus outbreak >About 550 Canadian military personnel will be sent to Latvia to replace those personnel already there. >The 550 Canadian military personnel heading to Latvia won’t be given the COVID vaccine despite an outbreak of the virus at the facility they’ll be operating from in that country. >The military has a limited number of vaccine doses and is giving priority to those who have health conditions that place them at increased risk of severe COVID-19 infection as well as personnel who are working or preparing to work in higher risk settings as part of the federal government’s plan to help the provinces and territories during the pandemic. >Military personnel involved in international operations such as Operation Reassurance in Latvia and other parts of eastern Europe are to receive vaccinations later, said National Defence spokeswoman Jessica Lamirande. >Flights between Latvia and Canada for new troop rotation will take place over the next two weeks, she added. About 550 Canadian military personnel will be sent to Latvia to replace those personnel already there. >The department has confirmed that some Canadian Forces members already in Latvia have tested positive for COVID-19 but the DND won’t release numbers for security reasons. The DND says the personnel are at Camp Adazi near the Latvian capital of Riga. >Lamirande said vaccinations for the troops in Latvia, as well as other international missions, are expected to take place between April and December. >“In the meantime, we continue to follow the strict pre and post deployment COVID-19 protocols that were implemented, including 14 day quarantines, and are abiding by the rules, regulations, and restrictions applicable to where the CAF are deployed,” Lamirande added. “The safety and well-being of our members is a top priority, and we continue to do everything we can to ensure their protection as we follow expert advice from (the Public Health Agency of Canada) and take necessary precautions.” >DND spokesman Dan Le Bouthillier said that those staff in Latvia who have COVID-19 are under medical care and that contact tracing is also being conducted. “The affected members are currently in isolation or quarantine,” he noted. Isolation is for military staff who either test positive or display symptoms of COVID-19, and quarantine is a preventive measure for members who were in contact with people suspected or confirmed to have contracted the disease, but do not show symptoms themselves. >After military personnel on international missions are vaccinated the Canadian Forces will turn its attention to staff who are engaged in force generation, training, and education activities. Vaccinations for members of that group are expected to be administered between July and December, Lamirande noted. Vaccinations for all other military personnel are also expected in that time frame. >Canadian and other NATO troops are training Latvian forces. The Canadian-led NATO enhanced Forward Presence battlegroup Latvia was stood up during a ceremony at Camp Adazi, Latvia on June 19, 2017. The cost of the Operation Reassurance mission since then is $325 million. That doesn’t include salaries. >In July 2018 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau visited Latvia to announce the Liberal government was not only extending the mission but expanding it. Canadian troops are to stay in Latvia until March 2023 and the number of military personnel was boosted from 455 to more than 540. >The estimated cost for Canadian taxpayers of the mission extension was not available. The battle group was established in response to Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014 and its military support for separatists fighting Ukraine’s defence forces. >Trudeau said the Canadian military is in Latvia to send a message to Russian leader Vladimir Putin. So even though Canada recently had an outbreak of a new strain of supercoronavirus (which also affected their military), they are sending forces over unvaccinated from their side and these are to be vaccinated by the Latvian government but only after the entire Latvian military takes it first. It appears Castro is dreaming himself a coup where he can label the population as separatists and then take over by force.
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>>7650 >the dude wants evidence Kay bro you asked. just don't say i didn't warn ya First off, the vaccines causing autism thing is from a study made by one doctor. he had to abuse some retarded kids to change the results to what he wanted. nobody else could replicate his findings, and his methods were such bullshit that they kicked him out of the british society of doctors or whatever. the number of studies that refute that one are numerous. as for the covid vaccine, tens of millions have gotten it already. if it was really that dangerous, there would be thousands of people dying of it by now. the evidence would be everywhere and not just one or two cases. so where are the bodies bro? you need to provide evidence of thousands of bodies before this is going to sound legit. and if you're gonna come back and say even a small risk is not worth it, that's nonsense. even as a young person you can get covid and develop a deadly complication, or survive and just have a shitty heart and lungs for the rest of your life. the chances of that happening are statistically much higher than getting a bad side effect from the vaccine. cherry picking a couple of people who died from maybe something related to the vaccine is worthless. even if it's true, so what?? "some people die doing [x]" doesn't mean "nobody should do [x]" here's someone who died after drinking a lot of water. should none of us drink water? people die of heart failure from having sex. should none of us be having sex? i can list you a bazillion studies showing that people die of obesity-related diseases. should none of us eat FOOD? you're a dumb fuck. you're always going to be a dumbfuck. and here you are trying to spread your dumbfuckery.
>>7669 https://digdeeper.neocities(Please use archive.today)/ghost/corona.html https://archive.vn/4o5aS imagine believing in a vaccine that had less than a year's worth of development and testing and moved straight to human trials for a disease that 99.97% of people survive (if they even have it at all), and most of the cases were presumed covid rather than tested, and the tests themselves are dogshit.
>>7655 >Compulsory vaccination against Covid-19 in the Latvia army >Canadian military personnel headed to Latvia will get not COVID-19 vaccine despite virus outbreak It reflects how this "pandemic" was handled from the beginning. In all (((western))) countries measures were taken to enable the spread of the virus. This is what the "Chink Flu Denier" riled up early on. Please "no mask", "no hydrochinin" "no close border" "no close kindergarden", "no close school" an to top it "send knowingly infected person into care homes" . So how that square with their "rush to find a vaccine"? You need to find a pretext why you suddenly want to inject millions of people and limit their rights in Soviet style close border. Suddenly restricting travel and closing border is possible but it isn't when millions of colonists come into the country. "Lock-down" a quarantine after an illness has become endemic is sure is helping who? Add some generous year long 24 hours scare mongering and fake news of "health system collapse". Newest spin, disappearance of the flu doesn't show a fixing of the books, official chink flu statistic. NO it shows how effective it is against the virus! Unfortunately only against that of the common influenza not against the "super deadly and infectious british jungle monkey strain".
>>7669 >as for the covid vaccine, tens of millions have gotten it already. if it was really that dangerous, there would be thousands of people dying of it by now. That isn't what would be expected from an auto-immune disease. Vaccines are inherently dangerous, that's why vaccine producer receive legal immunity for their product even in normal times. "Vaccines" manipulating the immune system is a particular powerful and dangerous technique particular in combination with "gene therapy". So here we have the case of rushing untested and experimental vaccines against a statistical proven harmless flu variant. In addition of to the massive economic destruction caused by the lock-downs. So why would you do such disproportional and insane measures? Another observable effect is eliminating of civil and human rights under the cover of "fighting the epidemic". Some lawyer already have warned decades ago of the possibility of a coup d'etat via marshal-law equivalent anti-epidemc legislation.
>>7669 >just don't say i didn't warn ya Why would I do that? I asked for content and you finally provided it. Well, partially at least, since it seems your schizophrenia acted up and you started arguing with yourself over water poisoning while writing up your post. Hopefully you may too some day converse with other people and not figments of your imagination.
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>>7694 >Vaccines are inherently dangerous Life is inherently dangerous! Everything you do, from walking in your own home, taking a shower, using the toilet, petting a dog, driving to work, eating food, is dangerous. People have died doing those things, and with frequency. The point is that it's LESS dangerous to get the vaccine, for both individuals and the population, than not doing so. >proven harmless flu variant There are literally millions of dead who would argue that, if they weren't, you know, DEAD. >>7718 >government forcing people to do things they don't want to for their own good Next you're going to start bitching about how they make you have car insurance and how your parents told you not to play in traffic. >healthsentinel(Please use archive.today) You'll excuse me if I don't trust an unofficial website mostly peddling homeopathic cures; literally ANYONE can make a website and put on it that the sky is green. Find results from an actual medical publication, and try again. Actually, scratch that, I'LL DO IT FOR YOU, you propaganda-addled brainless fuckwit. Here's some from the CDC, NAP, and WHO. It's also important to note that the US population has increased about 60% from 1963 to today, so the "number of cases" is highly disingenuous compared to "number of cases per capita". Remember, kiddos. If 95% of scientists say X, and 5% say Y, cherry-picking that 5% of results does not make Y true!
>>7724 >There are literally millions of dead who would argue that, if they weren't, you know, DEAD. Those people would also have died anyway, considering the vast overwhelming majority of deaths were among the elderly and those with a fair number of comorbidities. >Next you're going to start bitching about how they make you have car insurance and how your parents told you not to play in traffic. And at the same time you burgers will bitch and moan about how health insurance "isn't good enough" or that "it costs too much money" and that it needs to be given to you for free instead. And speaking of what parents would say, where has "eat your veggies and go outside to get some exercise" gone? Or are too morbidly obese to go jogging and need everyone else to accomodate you due to it risking to shatter your knees? Don't worry, it will be good for your diabetes, trust me. >literally ANYONE can make a website and put on it that the sky is green And institutions somehow can't? Let's not forget that China somehow magically has zero cases. Almost 20% of the world's total population, yet somehow exactly zero cases. Not talking about zero deaths but rather about zero cases. And let's not forget about the WHO's insistance that masks won't do anything in order to ensure that hospitals get them first, after which they went back on it to get people to start using them again. Or their decision to change the definition of herd immunity on their website by deleting the part where it states that it can develop from a previous infection and leaving only that vaccination can ensure it. >It's also important to note that the US population has increased about 60% from 1963 to today, so the "number of cases" is highly disingenuous compared to "number of cases per capita". My graph was deaths per 100,000, which in case you haven't realised means it was already per capita. Which your graphs were not so I don't really get what point you were making. Were you making the point that absolute number of cases was a bad thing in case I were to post it at some point in the future? Because it seems you were simply saying that simply to make yourself seem smart despite it being irrelevant. If you want absolute numbers then how about Sweden's total number of deaths: no noticable impact despite having grown in population every single year since 1950 with the period since the start of COVID to now experiencing negligable impact. Even though Sweden didn't engage in lockdowns and didn't start wearing masks. I guess Sweden didn't get the memo that they need to start dropping dead for not having taken the WHO's recommendation to implement a lockdown. Sure, the WHO later stated that people should lift the lockdowns for economic reasons, but the WHO still maintained for a period of time it needs to do it.
>>7724 >Next you're going to start bitching about how they make you have car insurance Yes, that's a huge scam. >and how your parents told you not to play in traffic. Telling you not to do something and forcing you to do something are very different things. I encourage people to get vaccines, I don't think they should be forced to.
One of the problems with tyranny is that it increases. Americans born today think torture, kill lists, groping, and wiretapping are perfectly acceptable. There was a time when you didn't need a driver license. Later driver licenses were required. Driver licenses then needed a photo. Later you needed a written exam. A driving test was then required. Later you needed a medical test. A car inspection was required. Later you needed liability insurance. Driver license fees increased and fingerprints were required. Soon DNA samples, microchip implants, and vaccines will be needed to get a license.
>>7743 I'm on your side, faggot. Also, I don't encourage this current one for a variety of reasons you surely already understand. Regular ones, however, are a different story.
>>7751 >Regular ones, however, are a different story. Not really, no. They are only different in the sense that this one was allowed to pass without inspection.
>>7754 https://archive.fo/gtknH https://archive.fo/yy85W Always archive any articles worthy of mention.
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The West's Obituary https://archive.vn/RS6TV TL;DR: They "released" a relatively safe corona virus, then give people vaccines that give people corona virus anti-bodies, but said vaccine also weakens the immune system against natural and bio-engineered corona viruses by producing the wrong anti-bodies, and their next plan is to release a real corona virus that will only kill those with the weakened anti-bodies produced by the vaccine but not those who were never infected or developed natural anti-bodies after being exposed to a prior corona virus infection.
>>8003 I should also add that this is mandatory viewing. >>>/pol/7786 >>>/pol/7787 >>>/pol/7788
>>8003 This is completely hypothetical though. IF they develop a virus that can selectively distinguish between antibodies produced by the mRNA vaccine and those that were produced by actual COVID infection, and was somehow both extremely virulent and extremely fatal (which is logically impossible because severe illnesses self-limit), yeah sure. But you may as well say IF they put wings on a pig, it would fly. Viruses don't normally have any "reaction" to antibodies in the first place; that's the reverse of how it works. What this is actually saying claiming is that China can somehow develop a bio-weapon that does what no illness can do, that targets something no virus targets, on the premise that just because the target EXISTS, it can somehow be exploited. But by all means, go ahead either way. If the country collapses or if millions start dying, it's no skin off my back. I got COVID last year so I'm "safe". If you're that scared of this absurd conspiracy, instead of avoiding the vaccine, why not get intentionally infected with the real thing? Or would that be too much like bugchasing for your liking.
>>7737 >Those people would also have died anyway Literally everyone is going to die anyway. Might take a few years, might take a few decades. If there was some dude going around the country murdering thousands, would you say it's okay to let this continue because those people would have died anyway? >Nobody needs medical care if they eat healthy and exercise Sure sure. So when you crawl out of mommy's basement and get hit by a car and shatter your legs, the paramedics should just hand you some broccoli. Will work wonders. Now let me tell you how push-ups cure cancer!
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If this was true, why has Israel of all places vaccinated over 85% of its population? Do you think those numbers are made up? I find that extremely unlikely because a) we know Israel purchased the vaccines, which was a tremendous cost to incur just to fake some mass vaccination, and b) it's pretty hard for an entire country to lie. Don't get me wrong, I think the entire Covid situation is suspect, but I'm more in the China-accidentally-released-it-from-their-level-four-lab-that-works-specifically-on-coronaviruses-and-no-one-is-going-to-hold-them-accountable camp than the globalist-conspiracy camp.
>>7998 Regardless, always remember that socialization is a pathology. The strong survive alone. The fittest prosper by trampling everyone else. Only "socialize" in order to use other for your own gain. Discard them afterwards.
>>8168 Humans are social beings anon, although I do not disagree with the idea of becoming more individualist, if you don't have at the very least a group of real, trustworthy friends you're going to fuck yourself over. Humans are made to live in tribes, not big societies like theo nes of today.
>>8166 The entire nation of Israel IS a lie. Period.
>>8159 I mean the paramedics COULD pass you a wooden opium pipe... It would do the same shit as a morphine injection minus the needlestick injury and it would still remove the pain and it would be 100% natural. Just saying
>>8158 >which is logically impossible because severe illnesses self-limit It's easily accomplished when the unvaccinated people are able to be carriers. The virus can survive in populations that didn't receive the vaccine, either foreign or domestic, and continually re-infect the at-risk (vaccinated) population.
>>8211 You realize you would get more medical care than just painkillers, right? So your real argument is "nobody needs medical care if they eat healthy and exercise and just accept death if they get an otherwise treatable injury or illness."
>>8219 You realize big pharma is run by the Jews right? Holistic medicine is still medicine, but the Jews don't make money out of it and they don't give you close to as many side effects. Pretty much all hospitals nowadays kneel before big pharma which means the Jews can push their eugenics onto you through their poisons they give you there. Quarter of a million people die in hospitals in the US every year from "errors" so this notion you are making that going to hospital will somehow make you not die only shows your lack of knowledge and just how brainwashed by the ZOG you truly are.
>>8238 Your post has nothing to do with the one you're replying to. Someone used an example of getting your legs shattered to show an example of when you'd want medical care beyond healthy food and exercise. The reply then said you could use an opium pipe instead of a morphine injection, as if a morphine injection is all the medical care you'd get if your legs were shattered. No, there is much more that can be done to try to mitigate and repair the damage done to your legs, including a lot of things that would probably fall outside your definition of "holistic medicine" or whatever else you want to argue for. >Quarter of a million people die in hospitals in the US every year from "errors" so this notion you are making that going to hospital will somehow make you not die only shows your lack of knowledge and just how brainwashed by the ZOG you truly are. How many people are saved by procedures in hospitals? If your argument is that more people are killed by hospitals than saved, then go ahead and argue that, but you'd need to show both numbers and compare against each other. I understand your point is that many of the things done in hospitals could be treated without them, and that's definitely true, so you can just count people saved in hospitals that could not be saved without them. Of course the question wasn't really about hospitals, it was about medicine in general, so this is a slightly different question, but if you want to move the goalposts over here, fine. Of course, your entire argument is stupid, because acknowledging there are problems, even major ones, does not mean that you should throw out legitimately good things as well. You want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and the fact that you jump down somebody's throat so hard for pointing out that modern medicine can do more to help broken legs than give you painkillers shows that you are the brainwashed one. There is no reason for a rational person to get so upset about such a plainly factual statement.
>>8243 I respect your rebuttal and your ability to navigate logical fallacies. I must however bring to your attention the fact that eugenicists now control the covid jabs. https://unlimitedhangout(Please use archive.today)/2020/12/investigative-series/developers-of-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-tied-to-uk-eugenics-movement/?fbclid=IwAR3A0rCtJY1mJ1FPMaDEBLOUJdmJQaDCv1ep8gnDnShn4Ghodw7qWOClsOg I urge you to read this in it's entirety and archive it ASAP before it gets shoah'd. I would also like to hear what you have to say about it. I remain convinced that upon arrival to a hospital the first thing they are going to do is ask you if you've been "vaccinated" and people won't have the informed consent over what mRNA nor genetically modified adenoviruses nor MRC5 does to people. I do however empathize that a shattered leg is probably beyond the ability of anyone to restructure, pin, plaster cast themselves, I truly wish in that scenario there was a non ZOG run hospital method of saving the let but I honestly cannot think of a method myself. Nevertheless please read up on the article, read up on Gates, COPSEC, galton institute, Oxford Astrazeneca, population control they are all connected and I felt the article connected the dots alarmingly and word needs to get out because I honestly believe we are witnessing an extinction level event right now committee by the Jews against aryans. I am highly concerned if nothing is done about it soon, an entire generation may be lost and it will be too late. I ask you take this matter seriously, I apologize if my mannerism seemed insincere. Thank you for your time.
>>8003 When I was in 4th grade, my school pushed me to get vaccinated. Thankfully, my mother stepped in, having seen what my first shot entailed in kindergarten, and had me unvaccinated. For her, I'll abstain from this vaccine.
>>8166 40% of that population has had serious injuries and side effects from the vaccine injection. This is not even the long term data. They will lose almost all their population. None of the test animals lived. You have to WANT to survive not to get the vaccine and obviously those people didn't want to survive that much.
>>8244 I screen capped it for you.
>>8244 I never said to trust the Wuhan Virus vaccine. You're moving the goalposts all over the place. If you want to argue about that, and how it's affected the ability to get medical treatment for other matters, then fine, argue that, but that's a completely different argument than saying that all modern medicine is bunk, and you should only use "holistic" medicine.
>>8251 >They will lose almost all their population. So who is behind this scheme this time if not the jews? Surely they wouldn't want to kill almost all of the population of israel.
>>8257 Soros was a Jew who killed Jews. Why not? It helps make the Jews look like victims in this.
>>7998 "The sunflowers in the field will all die together, while the weeds in the shed shall go on just fine."
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I might become homeless in the future, it's only so long before I get kicked out the house.
>>8264 hire and fire seems to be my situation. been fired from like 4 jobs so far im only 26. got over $12keks in coronabux last year and now i got employment again working from home and its going well so far at least...
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So this is the source of "just a flu" claim? it is just like Spanish Flu alright
>>8535 But it is. You've said nothing to refute that. You only feel like it's different because the government is reacting differently.
>>8580 I'd agree we're getting closer to armageddon with each passing day but I see there's growing resistance to the measures that the media wont report on. if the ruling class truly wanted to cull they would have engineered a much deadlier virus. they want us alive but in debt bondage and in constant fear like the feudal times. Use everything you have to live righteously and reject the puppet masters. If you have businesses keep them open no matter what petty regulations and faux-laws they throw at you. Live under God's law and encourage others to do the same. Dont let fear be the order of the day.
> Kent Covid variant more transmissible but not more deadly, study finds https://archive.ph/drD9a
>>8781 That makes sense. Though I'm still waiting for china to get what they deserve for releasing this shit on everyone like the inept bugmen they are.
>>8783 How do we know that they're inept? This shit handed our opposition the US election on a silver platter, and it's working wonders for repealing what little rights we have left.
>Going through this morning's news >Government made a statement about the J&J reevaluation <It's nothing to worry about, the vaccine will be re-approved in a few days. >Random reporter asks a question <How is the blood lots caused by the vaccine different from the Corona-chan bloodclots? >何⁉︎ >Look it up <In COVID-19, Blood Clots May Form via NETosis: https://archive.ph/wip/9J8Sp Okay, I'm scared.
>>8808 >>8808 Not the first vaccine to cause blood clotting, Astrazeneca had recalled a month ago for similar problems. Simply the vaccines are being pumped too fast and no one knows how the vaccine affects the body.
>>7049 >When the US was a free country, Americans could decide what was best for their lives. Marrying little girls has been banned for a century. As has owning machineguns. America was never free, not in our life time. Pray it burns.
>>8817 <Did Americans need a pilot license in 1920 to fly a plane? There was maybe like 200 civilian airplanes total in the world in 1920. You didn't need a license when you could just remember all the people who had one by name.
>>7349 >Tyranny is not when Google records your web searches. Tyranny is when the NSA wiretaps your phone. >Tyranny is not when you get paid $1 per hour. Tyranny is when the government says that you must be paid $1 an hour. And what is it when those corporations become rich and powerful enough to use government employees and agencies as a cudgel to enforce their wages, artificially inflate prices, make it literally illegal to not buy their products, and even eliminate dissent and competition?
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AstraZeneca vaccine: Denmark stops rollout completely https://archive.vn/MK74l <During the press conference the head of Denmark's Medicines Agency, Tanja Erichsen, fainted and was taken to hospital as a precaution. The agency later tweeted that she had recovered.
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>The last piece of this “Fauci as the Father of the Pandemic” puzzle is this: Dr. Fauci’s NIH funneled American taxpayer dollars — some $7 million — into the Wuhan Lab through a shadowy figure named Peter Dasak. Mr. Dasak, himself, bragged about genetically engineering viruses at the Wuhan Lab prior to the pandemic. https://archive.vn/qmHSl
>>8824 I don't see the problem, women faint during press conferences all the time.
>Thousands of reports of menstrual irregularities, reproductive dysfunction following COVID vaccines https://archive.vn/CXUn0 <The U.K.’s government vaccine adverse event system has collected more 2,200 reports of reproductive disorders after coronavirus injections, including excessive or absent menstrual bleeding, delayed menstruation, vaginal hemorrhaging, miscarriages, and stillbirths. <In the U.K., the Yellow Card adverse event reporting system includes 2,233 reports of “reproductive and breast disorders” after reception of AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines. <The U.K. Yellow Card program reports 1,465 reactions involving reproductive systems as well as 19 “spontaneous abortions” (miscarriages), five premature labors, and two stillbirths in association with the AstraZeneca vaccine as of April 5. <... <Another 768 reports of “reproductive and breast disorders” have been reported for Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine in the U.K., as well as 42 “spontaneous abortions,” five premature labor onsets, and two stillbirths. <... <Male reproductive disorders are fewer, but 75 Yellow Card reports on AstraZeneca’s vaccine include 63 erectile dysfunction reactions, 50 cases of testicular pain, 11 cases of scrotal pain and swelling, and three reports of haematospermia, or blood in sperm. <Pfizer’s Yellow Card includes 22 reports of testicular and scrotal pain and 21 counts of sexual dysfunction. <None of the Yellow Card reports reveal details about the individuals who experienced the side effects. However, 32-year-old Lorri Emmily Lowe of the U.K. said she felt cramping three days after receiving AstraZeneca’s vaccine in February.
>>8824 Forgot this one
https://archive.vn/jHUng >FTC takes censorship to a whole new level, charges and fines St. Louis man for questioning vaccines, promoting zinc and vitamin D
Corona-chan not as well endowed as Spanish-chan was, screeching about how Burgers won't obediently wear masks like Europoors do, Socialist medicine and globalism doesn't work, and countries in a race to see who will bankrupt the economy first: >What will the world look like after the pandemic? https://archive.ph/kghoW
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>A fully vaccinated Arizona state lawmaker has confirmed that she has tested positive for COVID-19 >Alma Hernandez says she was fully vaccinated 11 weeks ago https://archive.is/ozJ7d
>>9064 The vaccines don't stop you catching Covid, this is known. All they do is give you weaker symptoms, if you do catch it. Still have to wear masks and distance though.
>>9087 Masks are totally worthless
>>9103 Not totally but they're no where near as effective as people think. They are reasonably good at protecting other people if you are sick. The best protection is distance, fresh air, and sunlight.
>>9104 No they aren't any good at that, especially when a "face covering" is required. When I go around in my respirator the flapper valve filters exactly nothing when I exhale except for spitting boogers directly into somebody's face. It's all nonsensical lies for people who don't think and still watch talmudvision.
>Hungary first EU country to allow COVID-19 vaccine from age of 16 https://archive.ph/FeKpI Long story short, taking the vaccine doesn't cause any change in aftereffects despite one's age. So, expect to see reports of kids have side-effects as well.
> Mass Vaccination triggers sharp spike in Cases and Deaths https://archive.ph/plFUO
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>>9269 Interesting read: "Is it really ethical for the APA to be involved in a mass vaccination campaign? Is this the role an organization like this should play in a democratic society? Should the APA use its unique understanding of human behavior to persuade people on behalf of the government and big pharma? And, more importantly, if behavioral psychologists helped to shape the government’s strategy on mass vaccination, then in what other policies were they involved? Were these the “professionals” who conjured up the pandemic restrictions? Were the masks, the social distancing and the lockdowns all promoted by “experts” as a way to undermine normal human relations and inflict the maximum psychological pain on the American people? Was the intention to create a weak and submissive population that would willingly accept the dismantling of democratic institutions, the dramatic restructuring of the economy, and the imposition of a new political order?” https://archive.ph/3Cs1n
https://archive.is/gCaiu >Developers of Oxford-AstraZeneca Vaccine Tied to UK Eugenics Movement >"The developers of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine have previously undisclosed ties to the re-named British Eugenics Society as well as other Eugenics-linked institutions like the Wellcome Trust." >As documented here, while the vaccine may be heralded as “vital for lower-income countries,” the Oxford-AstraZeneca project is no mere philanthropic pursuit. Not only is there a significant profit motive behind the vaccine, but its lead researcher’s connection to the British Eugenics Society adds another level of warranted scrutiny. >For those encountering stories of eugenicists, it’s common to dismiss such activity as that of “conspiracy theories.” However, it’s undeniable that several prominent individuals and institutions that remain active today have clear ties to eugenicist thinking, which was not so taboo just a few decades ago. Unfortunately, this holds true for the individuals and institutions associated with the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID vaccine, who, as demonstrated in this article, immerse themselves in studies of race science and population control—primarily in Africa—while working closely with institutions that have direct and longstanding links to the worst of the eugenics movement.[/QUOTE] https://archive.is/JERU2 >Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation​ >America’s richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a ‘disastrous’ environmental, social and industrial threat SOME of America’s leading billionaires have met secretly to consider how their wealth could be used to slow the growth of the world’s population and speed up improvements in health and education. >The philanthropists who attended a summit convened on the initiative of Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, discussed joining forces to overcome political and religious obstacles to change. >Described as the Good Club by one insider it included David Rockefeller Jr, the patriarch of America’s wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, and the media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey. >These members, along with Gates, have given away more than £45 billion since 1996 to causes ranging from health programmes in developing countries to ghetto schools nearer to home. >They gathered at the home of Sir Paul Nurse, a British Nobel prize biochemist and president of the private Rockefeller University, in Manhattan on May 5. The informal afternoon session was so discreet that some of the billionaires’ aides were told they were at “security briefings”. >Some details were emerging this weekend, however. The billionaires were each given 15 minutes to present their favourite cause. Over dinner they discussed how they might settle on an "umbrella cause" that could harness their interests. >The issues debated included reforming the supervision of overseas aid spending to setting up rural schools and water systems in developing countries. Taking their cue from Gates they agreed that overpopulation was a priority. This could result in a challenge to some Third World politicians who believe contraception and female education weaken traditional values. Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation. At a conference in Long Beach, California, last February, he had made similar points. "Official projections say the world's population will peak at 9.3 billion [up from 6.6 billion today] but with charitable initiatives, such as better reproductive healthcare, we think we can cap that at 8.3 billion," Gates said then. Patricia Stonesifer, former chief executive of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which gives more than £2 billion a year to good causes, attended the Rockefeller summit. She said the billionaires met to "discuss how to increase giving" and they intended to "continue the dialogue" over the next few months. Another guest said there was "nothing as crude as a vote" but a consensus emerged that they would back a strategy in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental, social and industrial threat. "This is something so nightmarish that everyone in this group agreed it needs big-brain answers," said the guest. "They need to be independent of government agencies, which are unable to head off the disaster we all see looming." Why all the secrecy? "They wanted to speak rich to rich without worrying anything they said would end up in the newspapers, painting them as an alternative world government," he said.
Fucked up the quoting but I just wanted to put this out there for anyone unaware.
>>89 This is how tyrannical governments acquire more power. They make the people believe they're in danger, and the government needs more power to save them. One by one, you lose all your liberty and freedom.
>>9348 The problem is, power accumulates over time and they never give it up willingly. Even if a little is handed over every crisis, it eventually builds and builds and builds.
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>>89 >Are We Witnessing the Collapse of Individual Rights and Democracy? It's been happening for 20 years, now. Each president except Trump has built upon the fear caused by 9-11 and has systematically pared down every right and freedom in the name of "safety." This is not news.
So, the vaccines may lead to heart attacks: https://archive.ph/AjcN6 > Canadian vaccine expert Dr. Byram Bridle recently spoke of the terrifying reasons serious side effects, including heart inflammation and vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT), may occur in those who have received the COVID-19 vaccine. He explained that critical information has recently been discovered that centers around spike proteins—a crucial element in both the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the COVID-19 vaccines. >... > SARS-CoV-2—which has been shown to cross the blood-brain barrier in mice and cause many kinds of heart, blood vessel, and brain damage—has a spike protein on its surface, allowing the virus to infect our bodies. Likewise, research within the scientific community also reveals various cardiovascular and heart problems, bleeding, and clotting when studying the disease in humans. That same research also establishes that the spike protein alone is almost entirely responsible for damage to the cardiovascular system if circulating in the body.
>>9416 This is what happens when you rush out a bunch of vaccines, but thankfully the "fact checkers" will do everything in their power to hide this kind of information until it is too late for most people. I wish everything wasn't so god damn politicized so this shit could be properly tested.
>Fauci Said Masks 'Not Really Effective in Keeping Out Virus,' Email Reveals https://archive.fo/a5PMq
> CDC Finds Higher-Than-Expected Heart Inflammation Cases in Young Men Following COVID Vaccine Jabs https://archive.is/gI7Fg

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