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SITUATION UPDATES AND SITE META GENERAL Acid Board owner 09/17/2020 (Thu) 06:59:42 Id:9968b0 No. 1138
QUESTIONS, ANSWERS, AND GENERAL REQUESTS GO HERE UPDATE MESSAGE - NEW UPDATE 9-23-2020: Tonight's work is done. We fixed 2 small bugs and are also now GEOIP blocking Russia, China, and the JIDF. 8chan.se should be working again soon, along with custom error messages for the tor boards. --------------------------------------- We're back! I just relaunched 8chan.moe on the new server. Thanks to Codexx's hard work on the 8ch.moe clearnet proxy the site was never forced completely offline, but it's certainly good to have the main domain back again. I would like to go over the current site situation and plans from here on: At the moment the new server is running the same HTTP accelerator cache that we set up on the old server, but this cache is being used as a remote proxy. Except instead of being a stopgap like 8ch.moe, this is a robust setup that proxies the entire main site and serves it from the egregiously powerful new hardware. This setup has been placed behind Cloudflare as an extra security layer, but this layer is optional by design. We do not need Cloudflare and the site will not suffer much without it, so them cucking out is only a minor concern. While the main site is being served by the proxy, we will slowly transfer over LynxChan and the site databases to the new server so that we can run everything natively on that hardware as well. This way the older server and the new act as backups for each other. If one goes down, the other takes over serving the site and downtime is minimal. We can keep this up for a while, and with even modest crypto donations, indefinitely. From here we will gradually make the LynxChan move and probably implement new proxy rules to serve site content faster. We now have a multi-layer fallback system - not in our pockets in case of need, but running and ready to go at a moment's notice. And beyond those we still haven't touched the nuclear option yet. We have made significant strides improving Redchannit as well, and it now functions similarly to the main site in all ways but thread user IDs, and believe it or not we're working on a fix for that just for your convenience. Loli boards are currently only on tor, and will remain as such for at least a while as we sort things out with the host. I sent a message to the admins of the panda asking for their advice, so we'll see what they say. In the meantime I ask that any such content be kept there. My next tasks tonight are to port over the .se domain and to implement the GEOIP blocks on the Russians and a few choice others. UPDATE 9-18 9:51 The host has confirmed our server has been ordered, but they have us in the queue to the delivered and set up on Monday. So Monday night will likely be the earliest time we can start the move, which will take a few hours. We will leave the current site up as long as possible while this goes on so we can post regular updates on our progress. We're also going to implement at least one fallback plan in case of any kind of unexpected problem with our new hosts. The dev team are as tired of this shit as you guys are, but we're gonna fight. ------- As you know the main site is "sort of" back up via 8ch.moe and Redchannit.org. Its time I gave a detailed account of what happened and what has been going on behind the scenes. On 9-16 the Russian government internet censorship department sent Vanwanet an ultimatum about our site. Since Vanwa has parts of its business in Russia, the Russians basically told them to get /tot/ and /delicious/ off their networks or Russia would kick them out and block their CDN. Vanwa immediately contacted us and told us to remove those boards or get nuked. So I removed them. We then worked a very long night moving all that sort of material to the Tor service, off of Vanwa's network entirely, and we added in /sm/ and /loli/ for good measure. I also requested that Vanwa block all of Russia from being able to see our site, which they agreed to. Satisfied that we were gucci, we dusted our hands off and went to bed after what had been a hard day and a very long night. On 9-17 at about 1:30PM I got a notice from Vanwa that our service was suspended. I checked why, and it was because the same Russian agency had just sent a mountain of further complaints to Vanwa. Vanwa only forwarded me 5 of them, but of the five 2 were orphaned images left over in the database from /delicious/ and three were from a loli thread that existed on /h/. I presume the others were the same. This should have been a straightforward fix, but because the Russians sent a separate legal complaint for each individual image, it must have looked like an avalanche of shit. Vanwa panicked and pulled the plug on us without notice or giving us time to address it. They also went beyond by actually terminating every site on my account, which also took down Redchannit. This was unexpected, and trying to get Redchannit.net back up has caused a DNS pileup where the domain changes are not propagating correctly. When we realized this we spun up a second Crescent Isle at Redchannit.org in about an hour. The tone of the conversation I had with Vanwa during and afterward did not leave me feeling like we were going to be reinstated any time soon. Thus we activated Plan B. The site is going to be moving to a new server and routing through a different, in-house CDN. We're going to eliminate the "trusted others" that are always the weak link in the chain that allows for deplatforming to happen. As much as we practically can, anyway. The new server is being set up now, but its on foreign hours and setup takes one business day. I received a support ticket a couple hours ago that they're working on it, but they didn't have the processor I wanted so they upgraded to a nicer one. We will be IP blocking Russia and Germany off the bat, but the new host is otherwise pro free speech, and is (one of) the hosts that serves the Panda. If these guys don't work on Saturdays then the new server may not be up until Monday, so Codexx activated 8ch.moe in beta to get everyone back together in the meantime. Since we're moving to Plan B I'm also assembling the pieces for Plan C, because it will be next if anything goes pear-shaped with our current course. Plan C is full-proxy bunker mode. We're going to test some provisions of it (like the 8ch.moe site some of you are using right now) on the current setup and the new server too, to make sure its ready to roll out if needed. For the moment, we wait for the new server setup to finish and then Codexx and I are gonna get to work.
Edited last time by Acidadmin on 09/23/2020 (Wed) 08:35:28.
>>1138 >But all the big solutions cost money, and none of us are rich That's how the DDoS racket works: play by (((their))) rules or good luck getting the shekels to create an alternative, goy.
>>1140 I've got ideas for doing it on a budget. There's a few other hurdles, of course, but we've been putting the pieces in place for the past few months. All this has done is accelerate things a bit.
>>1138 >This begins by GEOIP banning all of Russia The RKN's demans are even more simple: russians shouldn't see those boards. So geoip-hiding a few boards is the sufficient minimum for complying to those demands.
>>1142 And, preemptively, another popular thing that RKN wants banned: suicide instructions. It's that silly.
>>1138 >and probably Israel for good measure That's why I like you
>>>/delicious/ has been restored. Missing a few days of posts but otherwise in-tact. I am working on >>>/tot/ next. Going to take a little longer. Might not be up until tomorrow.
Take the onion pill and all your problems go away
Is the site getting DDoSed now? Seems it intermittently works and then breaks.
>>1151 We're tweaking the rules for what pages are blocked, and we're rebooting the server a lot to ensure the cache clears properly and rebuilds the config. Should be good now.
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I think we're finally done. What a day this turned into. Varnish is now fully configured, so enjoy the site being faster. Monday I'm going to work on enhancing Redchannit to make mod tools and post editing work. Sorry for rebooting the server like 8 times, but making sure nothing was going to break was very important, and this isn't a regular maintenance day so I was kinda winging it. We have endured yet again. Have a good night anons.
>>1138 >solution to censorship is preemptive IP bans The irony. Just go full .onion, this will have the added benefit of filtering out the VPN shills and the election secondaries. Also, geoblocking won't stop governments for going after your host again, because the whole shtick is about them having power and everyone else being their bitch: technically complying is not enough and will never be enough, they require full submission.
>>1143 >when you made things so shitty that you have to prevent people from figuring out how to fucking kill themselves
>>1154 >J-just send it into onionland That would reduce the userbase by half at the very least. >muh governments I'd focus more on the malicious actor trying to get the site shut down.
>>1155 >trying to prevent people from killing themselves >the country that invented Russian Roulette
>>1156 >That would reduce the userbase by half at the very least. Then more people should learn to use tor. Honestly tor should just be baked into default browsers. The main reason for .onion sites has nothing to do with the opsec of the user accessing them. There's no reason a standard browser shouldn't have tor built into it and only utilize it for onion sites.
>>1153 You are a legend, Acid! Thank you for restoring /delicious/, even though it's not on the main 8chan.moe site itself. I don't mind using both redchannit and tor, but tbh I'd prefer the redchannit option from now on. Again, thank you.
>>1156 >That would reduce the userbase by half at the very least. If half of the userbase can't figure out how to onion, then they get what they fucking deserve. If the site dies because of that, then nothing of value will be lost. >I'd focus more on the malicious actor trying to get the site shut down. Onion would completely and utterly eliminate copyright claims as an attack vector, but that aside governments are a much more serious opponent than some autist. >>1159 >I'd prefer the redchannit option Fucking amateurs
>>1160 ah yes the ol' "we could lose half our users" meme hi moot how's google
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Just tested posting there. Let me know when you guys had got the posting system back up and running.
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>>1162 I forgot to unlock it after the import. Try now. Board has been transferred back to Lincoln. He'll need to redo board settings, banners, volunteers, etc.
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>>1163 Awesome! Just tried it, and fixed. Thank you as always, Codexx.
>>1161 >losing any amount of users is taboo >if you disagree you want to see us fail If the community is so small and fragile that it cannot survive without luddites who refuse to use tor, then the community is already dead in all but name. 8chan didn't become relevant by carefully trying not to drive away users.
>>1164 No problem. Let me know if there's anything else I can help with.
>>1162 >discord >windows 10 >chrome >AVG antivirus >2 ad blockers <Speedy05 I almost wish this was a parody, but I know in my heart it isn't.
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>>1166 Well, there is one thing. I can notice that I'm not a Mod/Volunteer there anymore. Before /delicious/ was removed, there was a BO (Lincoln) and two volunteer (Superior_Dragon and Speedy05, aka yours truly) Would my status be restored, or would I have to chat to the BO first?
>>1168 Board was created from scratch and not an actual backup so that's why it didn't restore volunteers. I didn't remember the names. I went ahead and added both of you as volunteers.
>>1162 Get some tech advice, I beg you
>>1168 you can enter to delicious? Sorry, i´m a little idiot with these things XD
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>>1171 >XD
>>1169 Thanks, mate. When you said " created from scratch", who's the current board owner? I know Lincoln used to be the board owner before this whole Russia mess.
>>1172 >facebook frog >cuckchan filename You managed to be worse than the hue monkey.
>>1169 Also even though I'm a volunteer, I can't seem to edit/delete stuff without getting messages like "Could not delete. Would you like to try another password?" and "Your referral doesn't match the host." Sorry for so many messages btw. Again, thank you for all of your hard work.
>>1175 /delicious/ is Tor-locked and your ID implies you're not using it, that may be the problem.
>>1174 >stop enjoying things if other people enjoy them too Hipsters are faggots.
>>1173 I restored him as BO. >>1175 Are you using redchannit? This is a bug since Crescent Isle is beta software. Acid is going to take a stab at fixing it some time this week. For now, moderation actions must be done through the Tor Browser.
>>1178 Thank you very much, mate. I'm usuing redchannit atm, but I could always use Tor for moderation uses. Again, thank you for your hard work on keeping /delicious/ alive. I doubt we'll have it on 8chan.moe again, but at least it's still on the clearnet.
>>1179 It's really the least we can do. >I doubt we'll have it on 8chan.moe We're not giving up on that so easily. We have some plans. I spent some time discussing it with Lincoln last night before he went to bed. I'll let him fill you in on the details.
Thanks for fighting on this one. It's good that people are holding the line.
>>1174 >>cuckchan filename fucking newfags
>>1162 >>1171 And this is why going full Tor is a bad idea. Too many people who can't into anything more complex than Chrome.
>>1183 It's an opportunity to get them to learn about it, then.
>>1138 >and probably Israel for good measure. lol. >>1155 It's hilarious, isn't it?
>>1142 >So geoip-hiding a few boards is the sufficient minimum for complying to those demands. Sure, until a loli post on a non-loli board is reported to them. Better to protect all boards since loli is allowed sitewide, with the exception of particular board rules.
Since you've hidden /loli/, /delicious/, /sm/, and /tot/ you should also hide /fur/ and /rule34/ too for the time being.
>>1167 He's one of the mods for /delicious/, along with SuperiorDragon. They're shit, and I'd unironically take Tewi over them.
Acid, you're a faggot for your behavior back on Fatchan and you're a cuck for AsukaBlacked.png, but you have my respect for being the first one to actually have their shit together in regards to heavy deplatforming attempts on imageboards. Everyone else either died, cucked out, or hasn't been targeted by way of obscurity. >>1183 >Too many people who can't into anything more complex than Chrome. If means keeping out retards like >>1171 it sounds like a net gain.
1195 By that logic, why not have a temp ban on fictional underage content? It seems to be causing a lot of trouble to the point /b/ is having some actual ped post actual shit
>>1203 I smell honeypot. I'm not taking that bait.
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>>1203 the same fag is currently spamming /v/. Tell maku to get his fat ass on it.
Do we know who the fucks been spamming trashware and bait links all over the place today? So annoying
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>the entire site is now off the clearnet, including redchannit >the only way now is through Tor Being a lolifag is tough nowadays.
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>>1209 Hopefully it will be fixed. I hope anons are smart enough to find the onion link if they didn't save it. I'd also like to say that tor is slow as balls and the captcha images take ages to load. This is suffering.
>website actually got suspended from vanwanet >even redchannit got suspended as well shit just got real huh
>>1211 Vanwashit was just as cucked as cloudflare, I guess.
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godfucking dammit, not again
>>1212 They just lost the only business advantage they had over them at the very least.
I should probably ask, do other boards that allow loli need to go TOR-only as well or is it just these ones for now because they're the only ones that have attracted attention?
>>1214 Yeah, we know they can't be relied on now, at least.
>>1215 I have /d/ and that probably should be taken off the Clearnet
>>1212 >>1214 >>1216 According to Acid, The Russian Government threatened to basically kill all their sites that use Russian servers if they didn't immediately nuke 8chan. It's difficult to argue with that kind of hardball speaking from a "you need money to actually defend free speech" perspective: >>1069 >>1066 >>1215 It's probably just the individual boards -- (((whoever))) did this only focused on /delicious/ and /tot/, and completely ignored anything else.
There's a lot of sperging going on in the zzzchan thread
>>1124 >>1126 >I implore you to count the number of terrible posts or spam attempts on this site and its boards and see just how many of them are from tor vs the clearnet. I hope you're seeing what's going on over on /v/ and here, faggot. We've just be turned Tor-only and we're STILL getting spammed.
>>1138 I wish Delicious didn't have to be onion only. Any kind of censorship, even exclusive boards to this kind of site seems like a capitulation to terrorist governments.
So which part of ToS got so violated that vanva suspended the site?
>>1225 Not much we can do either way. Unless a magical server outside space operated by anons in Cambodia is made, it's basically impossible to for anyone to get threatened by governments and not cuck out for their safety/business. I'm not even confident Acid's Plan B will be as good as he's bragging about.
>>1227 Eventually retards are just going to have to accept the reality that tor is the only path forward. And when that day comes they'll all jump ship to discord and reddit and become normalniggers.
>>1228 Ironic, considering that the biggest users of tor are third worlders trying to get on reddit, facebook, and youtube.
>>1227 There's always some uncertainty. We have a lot of backup plans, it's just a matter of what's quickest to implement and what we can manage to bring online in the next day. Plan B isn't going to be the final step whether it lasts one day or one year.
>>1227 The "plan B" is at least a lot more flexible in terms of hosting and getting it back online, as opposed to having to deal with a middle man like Vanwa. It wasn't something we wanted to use, but I am glad acid developed it.
>wrong answer or expired captcha >wrong answer or expired captcha >wrong answer or expired captcha >wrong answer or expired captcha >wrong answer or expired captcha >>1216 >"vanwa has our backs!" >they actually don't People need to learn that most are cucks and will not have your back. Acid was naive to believe in them
>>1231 I'm sorry to be a downer but I don't think it'll work, the same people that have threatened upstream providers will do the same again and then the new solution will find itself without a connection.
>>1232 >>wrong answer or expired captcha >wrong answer or expired captcha >wrong answer or expired captcha >wrong answer or expired captcha >wrong answer or expired captcha Please someone sort this once the big fire gets put out.
>>1235 Yeah, it's extremely frustrating to post anything at the moment.
>>1209 >Being a lolifag is tough nowadays. Only in English-speaking zones or absolute freedom-hating shitholes like Russia and Germany. Communities in other languages don't give enough of a fuck about loli porn to try to take down. >>1211 >>1212 Ironically, Kikeflare is better for porn-related sites because they have the muscle to tell Russia to fuck off and block them, and because even loli porn sites are less of a PR nightmare than non-PC opinions. Vanwa still is a better option if you're going to host opinions that aren't approved by SJW (aka the entirely of /pol/ and 90% of /v/), though. >>1215 Vanwa nuked the domains because Puting complained about ONE loli thread on /h/ after the loli and shota boards were moved to Tor.
>>1235 Captcha de-syncs Visit 8ch.moe/captcha.js in another tab and fill out that one. I'm going to work on it. But this configuration is only supposed to be temporary. Redchannit.org is working and has fewer problems.
It's a shame that loli boards such as /delicious/ had to be Tor only for a time being. Like I said on the boards, Russians (not the citizens) can go suck their dicks for all I care. I'm sorry about what happened.
>>1243 There's a new Tor portal they can use in the meantime: redchannit.org
>>1244 Already using it lol! Thanks though!
>>1242 Thanks for the advice. That does seem to work better. >>1240 What annoys me is that Vanwa make a big deal out of providing "absolute freedom of speech", but they clearly do nothing of the sort. They're just another company who will defend certain preferred types of speech but are happy to throw other types under the bus.
I just want to post anonymously, complain about VIDEOGAMES, and occasionally call anon a nigger when he has a bad opinion. I don't see why this is so hard to do these days, but I am glad you are working hard to ensure we can do this
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I just have to say this. Russian are faggots.
>>1243 I'm really pissed for defending /pol/ now. I supported their free speech on the assumption that their dipshit politicians would support mine, but I mean, fucking /pol/ is the reason Russia acts like they shit don't stink
>>1255 >I supported their free speech on the assumption that their dipshit politicians would support mine Rookie mistake, we went over this in the 30s already.
>>1255 What the hell are you talking about? Were you expecting Trump himself to overturn Vanwa backstabbing us or something?
>>1255 >I supported their free speech on the assumption that their dipshit politicians would support mine Yeah, that was never going to happen. /pol/ only really care about their own freedom of speech, and the politicians they support are just as corrupt as all the other mainstream politicians. >fucking /pol/ is the reason Russia acts like they shit don't stink I wouldn't go that far. I very much doubt that "legalize loli" would have appeared in any list of diplomatic demands in USA-Russia diplomatic talks no matter who was in power. The political game is almost entirely about military and economic power. The opinions of voters don't even factor into the decision making process.
>>1255 >/pol/'s politicians /pol/ has politicians? I thought they considered all rightwing politicians to be cuckservative jew-lovers.
>>1255 What the fuck is up with all the glow nigger posts like these all the sudden? We were more or less clear of them for awhile but suddenly this place has some issues and there are a bunch of "I can't believe I supported X I'm now X!!!!" cuckchan bot posts.
>>1259 >/pol/ has politicians? It's an Estasia situation: one moment some politicians are based and redpilled and you're a kike shill if you doubt them, the next moment suddenly they're ZOG puppets, always have been, nobody ever liked them, and you're a kike shill if you dare to say otherwise.
>>1260 >everyone who dislikes /pol/fags is a spook What an awfully convenient delusion
>>1262 >/pol/fags What's a /pol/fag exactly? Is there one in this thread? Which politicians do these alleged "/pol/fags" endorse exactly? I'm very curious about this enigmatic creatures you're talking about.
>>1259 They basically follow the same logic as the "Settle for Biden" idiots. They might not like the Republicans much, but they'll still support them just to keep the Democrats out.
>>1263 >this faggot again You'd have an easier time claiming the sky can't be blue than pretending /pol/fags like yourself don't exist. As an aside, it's amusing to see the rightoids barely catching up with SJWs and their "SJWs dont' exist, you bigot" bluff.
>>1263 >Is there one in this thread? I think Id:000000 might be one.
>>1265 Can you provide is so much as an inkling of a definition here? Perhaps quote a post that embodies what you are attempting to describe? Perhaps the fact you're so routinely asked to give even the most basic description of your boogieman is telling to the fact you're a disingenuous faggot, anon. I've asked the most clear and easy to answer questions I could possibly muster and you still dodge them. It must be exhausting to be so perpetually fucking dishonest.
>>1267 You're literally the one and only anon that tries to pretend that /pol/fags don't exist, your posts began less than a week ago, and you should kill yourself.
>>1268 Did you forget to include your argument?
>>1267 It's pretty obvious who he's referring to. A /pol/fag is a stereotypical user of /pol/. They rabidly supported Trump in 2016, call everyone they dislike a nigger kike shill cuck, and love to talk about the day of the rope. Like all imageboard stereotypes (eg. /b/tard) it's a pretty crude generalization, but it still roughly describes a certain type of poster. Of course the group being talked about will never accept the generalization, but that's just part of standard mott-and-bailey tactics. There's hardly any point giving straight answers like this because everyone has already made their minds up and will just ignore anything they don't like. Debates on the internet are "won" by whoever has more time to waste typing out spurious arguments and accusing the the other side of doing the same.
>>1270 That's an adequate description for someone that doesn't appear to exist, at least not here and now. I'm not retarded, I know what he wants me to think a /pol/fag is, I just don't know who he thinks in this thread, board, entire, site, or even across the entire webring is supposed to embody this persona. The only logical conclusion here is that he has a fundamentally different idea of what a "/pol/fag" is, because the standard usage of the word in it's application towards rabid trump fans is not representative of literally anyone in this sphere of imageboards. You'd be hard pressed to find a single soul that won't openly despise trump for being a kike loving retard. So he's either using "/pol/fag" as a boogieman to dismiss anyone he doesn't feel like engaging with in good faith, or he has some radically different definition of the term than I do but for whatever reason refuses to define it. I think from there it's pretty easy to deduce which of the two is more likely.
>>1270 Don't bother trying to elaborate, that faggot is gaslighting and tries to sell the idea that /pol/fags don't exist. It's even more transparent than the 2014 takeover.
>>1138 Consider fwknop for Plan C.
>>1255 I'm sorry, but what does /pol/ have to do with this? Also, please never bring this shit up on here, because I really don't like hearing about it as that board makes me feel uncomfortable. So fuck off!
>>1274 Tits or gtfo
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>>1275 Nah, I'm good. kthx
>>1276 Tits or GTFO
Question, I'm trying to post a picture that is 3000x3000 but the site keeps blocking me from doing so. What is the maximum size per picture?
>>1278 There isn't one set, but what happens is the command to make the thumbnail breaks on images that are above a certain size, or possibly those wish extreme aspect ratios. But we're not actually sure what the limit is because it's something arbitrary from a tool that just happens to be used. Once things settle down I'll see if I can fix this somehow.
>>1257 No, I expected having a site with freedom of speech, full stop, no matter what, meant exactly that and if the Nazis wanted a place to talk shit, we'd get one too.
>>1274 Hey, I fucking hate /pol/ too, but 8Chan founder Jim Watkins was Qanon all along, and brought all those nazis here, so we gotta live with it
>>1255 It's all part of the plan. The left baited the Internet Right into going full churchoid and totally burning their libertarian wing. Now they've thrown the Boomer Right the supreme court, so that the Internet can be shitlawed up by a bunch of 130-year-old justice ghouls who are all about a half-quaff of baby blood from Valdemaring into mung. The outcome of all this is that the left gets to totally discard the past ten years of fuckups and censoriousness and go back to being the Cool Edgy Party, the only people who can hook you up with fun, while the right gets stuck with manhating frigid Catholic schoolmarm radfems and smug, tranny-obsessed frog Twitterfaggots. And the best part is, being the Cool Edgy Party is like running from a lion: you don't have to be faster than the lion, you just have to be faster than the other guy. When the right runs things, baseline discourse bullshit level is such that all you have to do to be recognized as a trenchant social genius is to say shit like FOOTBALL DUMB, and you're George Fucking Carlin. It takes all the pressure off them to be actually smart or significantly less awful. They played us for fucking fools.
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>>1279 Okie Dokie thanks, I tried spoilering the file and surprisingly it worked! That's a convenient workaround, thanks for the heads up, you should probably mention it in the faq or something.
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>>1285 If this ends up being accurate I'm going to be so fucking mad
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>>1276 >>1275 FUCK TITS SHOW ME YOUR SPATS
So can we expect to be able to connect to this website securely?
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>>1292 The new server will be running Varnish cache with the Hitch SSL terminator plugin, so HTTPS will be working properly post-move. The only reason it isn't now is to make the 8chan.moe address redirect work. tl;dr: Some time Tuesday.
>>1292 Stop being a clearnet nigger and just use Tor?
Why does 8chan.moe (dead link) use cloudflare now on clearnet?
So are boards like /delicious/ and /loli/ being behind a torwall only going to be a temporary thing? Because redchannit doesn't work for me. I click "I agree with the terms, let me access the content" and nothing fucking happens. And I don't want to attract unwarranted fed attention by using tor.
>>1295 Temporary while we get stuff moved around. DNS will take time to update. >>1298 It's temporary but it's probably better we try to fix redchannit for you. Do you have cookies enabled?
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>>1299 Yes. Would NordVPN possibly be causing the issue? There's also a possibility that it's one of my addons causing this and maybe it's not on your end. I'm using Palemeem 27.9.4 (last version before the Web Assembly pozz kicked in) with a number of addons for blocking js and other shit except for trusted sites. (Most browser exploits are through js, so this is low risk even if the browser isn't the most (((up to date))).) I make fresh profiles from time to time and don't always use the exact same addons. It seems to work well, but I've noticed that basically any functionality involving a # in the url doesn't work at all. Sneaking suspicion that NoScript might be the culprit, but it's hard to test, especially since the PaleMeem devs only have v28 and upwards available and Legacy Collector shutdown a little less than a year ago.
Figured out the issue. I had just session cookies and not all cookies enabled and needed to allow js. Not exactly an ideal arrangement, though.
>>1300 Have you tried installing Classic Add-on Archive and downloading noscript from there? Also why are you using the latest version of Pale Meme?
So what about the content that still is or might be posted by some posters? such as on fur with their cub smut or on hentai with the loli smut?
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>>1303 /hentai/ and /abdl/ will probably need to move that content to the tor boards, or set up their own loli sub-boards that I can move to tor for them. /fur/ is probably safe, being literal and obvious nonhumans. I'm not enthused about having to relegate loli to tor protected status as long as it remains legal, but we live in current year and now have at least one government trying to fuck us. I promised when we started that I'd go to bat for those boards to the best of my ability and I'm keeping that promise, but for now they're safer on tor. Also I just fixed the bug that 8ch.moe had that was doubling up user IDs. Or at least I believe I've fixed it. Please let me know if you see it happening on the main site at all.
>>1304 Why would adult baby diaper love have loli in the first place?
>>1305 Couldn't tell ya. As admin my job is to police global rules and work with software. What a given board allows is their business.
>>1306 I'm curious, but what's your personal take on cub loli and shota shit?
>>1302 Wasn't aware of that. Will take a look >Also why are you using the latest version of Pale Meme? Did you mean aren't? A number of reasons such as Web Assembly pozz but also things less DOM support so that possible spying through HTML5 is more difficult. And like I said, most exploits are through js so if you're blocking it you're still pretty safe. >>1304 Any estimated timetable on when everything with the host will be figured out and we find out what the final policy on the loli boards will be moving forward? Perhaps going tor only could be a board option setting which admins could override in the event of more deplatforming attempts.
>>1280 Okay, but what does /pol/ have to do with Vanwa's betrayal? This was about Russians getting triggered over loli, not bad goy opinions.
>>1309 An idiotic /pol/fag thinking that if they voted for and supported politicians that /pol/ liked those politicians would represent their interests since they were both hated by the left, not realizing that none of those politicians would actually fight for their interests so much as enact their own laws against their interests.
>>1304 Is the thread on /u/ still safe considering Putin hates LGBT anyways or does it need to be removed?
Is /tot/ not yet restored, or am I just doing something wrong on my end? When I browse there through Tor I just see an empty board. >>1305 Because diapered lolis are cute. The fetish is more about general regression than anything unique to adults.
>>1310 >/pol/fag Who?
> We will be IP blocking Russia and Germany off the bat out of curiosity, why germany? did they start shit in the past that I missed?
>>1315 Presumably because of /pol/
>>1304 You should make /cb/ a tor only board too as I'm not going to moderate against things like shota.
>>1313 Acid hasn't restored it yet. He was busy trying to get the original domains back up. >>1315 Probably as a preemptive measure. Germany is known for sperging out over stuff like lolis and people saying nigger. >>1317 You could put a message telling people to post shotas on /sm/ and keep /cb/ for older boys.
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>>1317 /cb/?
>>1318 >You could put a message telling people to post shotas on /sm/ and keep /cb/ for older boys. Why would I do that? I don't care if /cb/ is a tor only board or not. I would probably make it tor only if I had the option anyways.
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>>1318 >You could put a message telling people to post shotas on /sm/ and keep /cb/ for older boys. What is the cutoff point for people not sperging about loli/shota? For example I'm guessing Mable would be out but what about Wendy? What about Rei or Asuka? Sailor Moon? The boys thet Po~ju draws?
>>1322 nigger just type it into the URL what's wrong with you
>>1322 http://4usoivrpy52lmc4mgn2h34cmfiltslesthr56yttv2pxudd3dapqciyd.onion/delicious/ You'll need the Tor browser (or Tails, Whonix, Qubes etc.).
>>1318 >Acid hasn't restored it yet. He was busy trying to get the original domains back up. Thanks, and no worries. I understand everyone is under huge pressure right now.
>>1324 Thanks
>>1304 Again, you're doing god's work. I'm glad to have 8chan.moe back in general. I'm definitely looking forward to the day when /delicious/ returms to the clearnet properly.
>>1327 I just tried this link: https://8chan.moe/delicious/catalog.html We're technically back. But either way, I'm not too sure if that method will work in the long run. Let me know when everything's back up again.
>>1321 >What is the cutoff point for people not sperging about loli/shota? For most normalfags is anything shorter than 5ft without tits and with a baby face. For me, is when they develop secondary sex traits (pubic hair, wider hips/shoulders, tits in case of girls, muscles in case of boys, etc), >>1322 https://redchannit.net/delicious or https://redchannit.org/delicious The same goes for /loli/ and /sm/. >>1328 Alternatively you can tell everyone to use redchannit.net since that portal lets people see the index.
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They forgot 2dblacked which is full of loli https://8chan.moe/2dblacked/catalog.html
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>>1332 another test.
>>1329 >For me, is when they develop secondary sex traits (pubic hair, wider hips/shoulders, tits in case of girls, muscles in case of boys, etc), This kind of shit makes me fucking white with rage because it's never really "just" "loli or shota". It's femboys, and traps, and petite girls, and anyone without an underevolved chimp endocrine system. It's a war on beauty -- real beauty, not 80kg tit cumbrain degen shit. They're making our world uglier for nothing I can see beyond the sake of humiliating and degrading us. I want revenge. I want to choke them with beauty like they've been trying to choke us with ugliness.
>>1336 >80kg tit cumbrain degen shit. (Sorry to any /hyper/fags who felt slighted by that. Being fucked with for this long has embittered me.)
>>1337 Why are you saying sorry? loli and shota are clearly disgusting. But idk if we both want that banned entirely. My saying is that as long as it's kept away from public eyes and ain't being forced like LGBT nonsense, then whatever. Still a sicko.
>>1336 the cool part is not only do you get jlullaby thicc futa mommydom shit shoved down your throat but also antis are fucking retards who can't understand human words or arrange them so not only do you gotta eat shit but the proximal person making you do it is a downie. you are forced to abase yourself before mouthbreathers and 14-year-olds who were too stupid to avoid getting groomed into being moralfag child soldiers gotta get that extra little twist of the knife in there
>>1339 I think it's wrong to describe them as moralfags because they clearly aren't upholding any coherent set of morals. They're just using "morality" as a weak excuse to perpetrate a very immoral witch hunt against innocent people who have a particular sexuality. I'm absolutely certain that lolicons are on the right side of history, while the "moralfags" will eventually be recognized as the censorious bigots they are.
>>1340 Don't get me wrong, lolicons and whatever else are okay. But their interest is not a sexuality. Fuck, that just sounds wrong man...
>>1340 I think projecting incoherent moral standards is what makes someone a moralfag in the first place. They just spout non-sense because at face value they feel like something is wrong without understanding why it is. Discussing the actual moral and ethical implications of loli and porn in a coherent and productive manner on the other hand isn't really moralfagging. It's just interesting conversation.
>>1341 Actual psychology researchers disagree with you, and their work has been published in peer reviewed journals. I still draw a very hard line between 2D and 3D. The whole reason that going after lolicons is so stupid is that they're the ones who aren't doing any harm.
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>>1343 The "moralfags" draw a hard line between 2D and 3D as well; they're just on the other side of that line is all.
>>1344 Who the hell made that kid live through hell on the right? Jesus... >>1343 Really? Just a fyi, I'm not trying to hate on loli,shota,cub, what have you, but just the aspect of it being a "sexuality". I thought that term was for someone who was an adult and was either gay, bi, or hetro. And no worries, I do too as well. I do wonder why so many normaies complain about fiction shit, but let companies like Netflix run scott-free.
>>1346 >Really? Just a fyi, I'm not trying to hate on loli,shota,cub, what have you, but just the aspect of it being a "sexuality". I thought that term was for someone who was an adult and was either gay, bi, or hetro. Yeah. Michael C Seto has published on the topic, but he's not the only one. A sexuality is basically just a pattern-matching function which is linked to arousal and in some way hard-wired into the brain. Nobody really understands how it all works, but all manner of variations are theoretically possible. "Straight", "gay", and "bi" are just boxes which 99% of people more or less fit inside. From a biological point of view it would be much more surprising if sexuality was always limited to one of those three categories and mutations never occurred.
>>1336 >It's femboys, and traps, and petite girls Isn't really difficult to differentiate the average trap/femboy from the average shota. Traps and femboys tend to be taller and more feminine (longer hair, wider hips and bigger ass) than shotas (less curves, shorter limbs, sometimes even have baby fat). They look similar to the experienced eye, but anyone who's into gay shit can tell them apart. Same with petite girls, who almost always are taller than the average loli. Regarding the actual point, this war on beauty is a consequence of various movements, including fat acceptance (liking thin bodies is bigotry), radical feminism (rejecting the old idea of femininity to the point of becoming the exact opposite of it), leftovers of American propaganda (you aren't pretty if you don't have huge tits & ass or more muscles than Hulk) and the endless crusade on pedophilia (everything short without chests is pedo shit). Unfortunately, lolis, shotas, traps and petite girls represent everything these groups hate, hence why so many people want to get rid of them. >>1338 >My saying is that as long as it's kept away from public eyes and ain't being forced like LGBT nonsense, then whatever. That's the thing. For decades lolicons and shotacons stayed in their own little corners of internet away from the rest of the world (even general purpose hentai sites had separate areas for loli/shota). Is normalfags and spergs who actively look for shit they don't like just to demand to get it destroyed. Loli/shota porn doesn't harm anyone (maybe shock people, but that's all), but retards still want it banned along with the little corners of internet that hosted it for decades just because they don't like it. They want to turn the entire internet into their hugbox. >>1346 >>1347 I always considered lolicon, shotacon and their subgenres as fetishes or paraphilias, not as a sexuality or something similar.
>>1350 >That's the thing. For decades lolicons and shotacons stayed in their own little corners of internet away from the rest of the world (even general purpose hentai sites had separate areas for loli/shota). Is normalfags and spergs who actively look for shit they don't like just to demand to get it destroyed. Loli/shota porn doesn't harm anyone (maybe shock people, but that's all), but retards still want it banned along with the little corners of internet that hosted it for decades just because they don't like it. They want to turn the entire internet into their hugbox. That's annoying for sure if no one is harming anyone here. What's also ironic is some of those who complain about lolils are actual pedos. Still, what do you say about those who use loli and other subgeneres for harming actual children? Imo, they should get an additional charge for loli and other smut just to stay in prison longer. Or hell, let there be vigilantism to kill them. >I always considered lolicon, shotacon and their subgenres as fetishes or paraphilias, not as a sexuality or something similar. Oh really? Sorry if I was confused there since it was a bit bizarre how you worded it.
>>1351 >What's also ironic is some of those who complain about lolils are actual pedos. Yep. Even in Japan this is becoming more frequent: https://archive.is/xQgN8 >Still, what do you say about those who use loli and other subgeneres for harming actual children? I don't know of a case where loli/shota porn was used against real children (unless you count telling underage retards to watch Boku No Pico when they ask for anime recommendations as harming children). Can you post examples of this situation? >Imo, they should get an additional charge for loli and other smut just to stay in prison longer. Or hell, let there be vigilantism to kill them. There are cases where somebody charged for possessing real CP gets additional charges for possession for having loli/shota porn in the mix, but that's just an excuse to give the accused more years in jail and possessing loli/shota porn alone usually doesn't have the potential to put anyone in jail (at least not in murrica).
>>1352 >Yep. Even in Japan this is becoming more frequent: Wow, what do you know, seems those who really shout out the loudest are the ones who have skeletons. Of course, the UN is no bystander either, as I remember hearing 40,000 actual pedos inside their organization. Fucking christ... >I don't know of a case where loli/shota porn was used against real children (unless you count telling underage retards to watch Boku No Pico when they ask for anime recommendations as harming children). Can you post examples of this situation? Not really examples, just heard of some twitter users who stated that. It's far out of reach, but if this made loli or whatever else of that genere banned, who's to say that fucking furry porn or animated porn of characters like Mario, Yoshi, or just adult characters won't either? Not saying to ban anything, but most don't even seem to think this is possible and just only want their shit to be protected, but when all of hail Mary breaks loose, they start pleading others to help out. Fucking hypocritical asshats. But really, I think it's only a small handful amount of actual pedos who take this advantage for their own fucking gain, considering how some furries are known for zoo shit and from what I heard, grooming fucking kids. I believe that would count since trying to provide any porn for a person 17 or younger is illegal and rightfully so imo. >There are cases where somebody charged for possessing real CP gets additional charges for possession for having loli/shota porn in the mix, but that's just an excuse to give the accused more years in jail and possessing loli/shota porn alone usually doesn't have the potential to put anyone in jail (at least not in murrica). While you aren't wrong for the most part, there was that one guy named Christopher who had some loli manga through the mail and got arrested for obscene charges alone.
*It's not far out of reach*
>>1353 >just heard of some twitter users who stated that Well, that still doesn't show that loli porn is being used to harm children. >but if this made loli or whatever else of that genere banned, who's to say that fucking furry porn or animated porn of characters like Mario, Yoshi, or just adult characters won't either? Actually all forms of porn can be considered illegal on America due to their stupid obscenity laws that demand the use of an incredibly subjective test. Even if nobody is harmed, something can be declared illegal because it's "obscene" (aka the judge and jury don't like it). >there was that one guy named Christopher who had some loli manga through the mail and got arrested for obscene charges alone This is an example of why obscenity laws are pants on head retarded. The poor fuck got in trouble for buying a genre of porn daddy state didn't like, even when no real person suffered for the creation of the material (as opposite of CP, where children may be coerced, tricked or threatened to take part on its production).
Whats up with the forbidden boards? They are only for tor now or something?
>>1355 >>1353 Relevant link for this conversation. https://archive.is/SfVB0 The actual article is locked behind a payment/subscription but the abstract gives enough information.
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>>1357 I found the study: http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2010to2014/2010-porn-in-czech-republic.html I'm going to post the results since they're the most interesting part. SEM means Sexually Explicit Materials. Most obvious and most significant of our findings is that the number of reported cases of child sex abuse immediately dropped markedly after SEM was legalized and became available (t = 6.7, df = 32, p < .001) (Fig. 1). The incidence of reported child sex abuse, following this original precipitous decline following the governmental switch in 1989, did increase in incidence for a few years to peak in 1995 and 1998 but then again dropped in number following a downward trend that had begun prior to democratization (Fig. 1). From 1989 to the present, there has been a steady population increase. Statistical analysis using Pearson's r for the relation between the number of males aged 15-64 in the population and cases of child sex abuse found a negative correlation (Pearson's r = -.787; p = .001). Reported cases of rape did briefly pitch upward following the change to democracy and the availability of pornography but then returned to its frequency seen during the period under communism: between about 500 to 750 cases a year. Considering the complete post 1989 period, the number of reported rapes did not increase after SEM was legalized (t = 6.7, df = 32, p < .001).2 This stability was maintained despite a significant increase in the male population aged 15-64 over the years from 3,225,960 in 1971 to 3,726,148 in 2007 (Pearson's r = .98, p < .01, n = 37). Statistical analysis did not show any correlation between the number of men in the population and the reported cases of rape (Pearson's r = -.064; p = .701). The so-called lesser sexual offenses of indecent exposure, peeping, etc. also decreased significantly following the legal availability of SEM (t = 9.57; df = 20, p = .001) (Fig.1). In comparison with our findings for the sex crimes mentioned following democratization and porn availability, the number of societal crimes of general murder, assault, and robbery rose significantly. Murders associated with robbery or with other non-sex related motives increased sharply (t = -6.8, df = 20, p < .001) (Fig. 2). Murders associated with sex related matters –small in number at any time--did not increase (t = -0.3, df = 23, p = .77) (Fig. 2). The number of reported sex related crimes decreased significantly from the pre-switch period to the post period, (t = 5.3, df = 32, p < .001), whereas the number of reported nonsexual crimes increased significantly (t = -19.72, df = 35, p < .001) (Fig. 3).
>>1356 >They are only for tor now or something? Yes. Acid moved them to Tor as a preemptive measure while he sorts everything out, but they may have to stay there forever (depending on what 8chan's host tells Acid): >>>/v/112876 >>>/v/112886 >>>/v/112890 >>>/v/112903 In any case, you can access them through redchannit.net and redchannit.org without needing to install Tor.
>>1359 that's not currently working, for some reason
>>1377 Try with the HTTP version. The secure one fails to load on my end: http://redchannit.net/site
>>1378 Thank you Anon.
what happened to delicious? is it just gone now? tried going to https://redchannit.net/delicious/ but now thats gone too
>>1384 Redchannit is having some DNS issues but it should be back up soon. You can access via Tor Browser in the interim.
>>1386 It's down, use the web2tor proxy www.goatse.cc/?page=delicious/index.html
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Acid/Codexx, if you're still trying to decide how to go about handling loli/shota and similar contentious content, if I may make a suggestion, perhaps the following: (1) Have a second type of spoiler/NSFW category for this material. Meaning, as an example, BOs categorizing boards as having this content. Or on different boards, having a checkbox to tag something as contentious material the same way you would spoiler a NSFW image. (2) Hide the material by default, and have a option on the site to make this material visible, but before doing so, have the user acknowledge in a disclaimer as per >>>/v/112898's suggestion that they won't hold the site liable, that they are 18+, and the usual legal mumbo jumbo. >>1387 Isn't working correctly. Pic related. Either you didn't follow the directions setting up the proxy correctly or the instructions weren't clear and glossed over one or more important details.
>>1388 Cuckchan's disclaimers have nothing to do with preventing their host from shutting down the site. Cuckchan is literally ran by feds, and when I say literally I actually mean literal federal agents have been in control of that site for over a decade. So any speculation about how cuckchan manages to stay online is utterly meaningless. 8kun bans loli content, the entire reason for this site is because of that. Not that I disagree with having some some of bypass feature to unlock "edgy" boards, within reason, but in the case of severe bad actors like the fucking Russian government threatening the CDN I very much doubt it's going to do much of anything. At best it prevents drive by goons from finding anything worth reporting to their government handlers.
So is redchann.it still supposed to be down?
>>1390 Eeeyup, it's down, as I kept getting the "page cannot be found" error. RIP /delicious/
http://redchannit.net/delicious/ is down again. why dose the internet hate fake people porn?
>>1392 I dunno, but I'm getting real tired of the constant need for tor.
>>1392 It's a DNS problem. Acid has a ticket in with the registrar but hasn't heard back yet. He might try putting a call in. This happens every time we change the DNS for our domains with them and it's becoming inconvenient. >>1393 We'll have some news soon. We want to get it back on clearnet in some form in the near future. Acid has had a rough week and his cat got sick, but we'll have some kind of status update soon. We've got a lot of good options, and want to solicit feedback to select the best one. Once that's determined, we'll work on implementing it.
>>1394 aw his cat is sick? i hope its gets better
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>>1138 >Israel Why?
Is there a way to upload multiple images over the 8moe onion without JS? I can only upload one image on the 8moe onion without JS. If there is no possible way for now, try to implement it soon.
Even when you turn off auto update threads still keep getting updated with posts. Just happened today so unsure if the problem will persist or not
I've been dealing with the "switching IDs" problem for a while now even after Acid supposedly fixed it. Moreover, I'm currently on Tor and discovered that it doesn't give me the usual 00000s ID. What the hell's going on?
>>1402 Can you specify your Tor configuration? Specifically: >Are you using Tor Browser or a regular browser and running Tor separately? >If the latter, did you already have a bypass while using an IP before switching to Tor? >What URL are you using to access the site via Tor? The switching IPs issue was more-or-less determined to occur with people who had both an IPv4 and IPv6 address. It seems like their connection switches between them. It's possible this is a result of Cloudflare using different IPs depending on what part of their network you're routed through. Either way, that will hopefully be a non-issue soon. But we're going to be working on the site over the next couple days, so we'll try identify the issue. >>1400 I'll examine the refresh script and see if there's anything that might turn it back on. Might be a non-issue when the next update releases, though. >>1398 I'll ask Stephen about this tomorrow. I wasn't aware of a cap for no-JS users, but there might be one. Only question is how hard it would be to change it, and if there's a reason why it's not supported yet. >>1395 His cat got some medicine and is apparently doing well. Thank you for your concern.
>>1403 Tor Browser, and I'm using 8chan.moe. This isn't only a Tor thing, it's also happened with my regular browser. What should I do assuming it's my IP fucking up, just in case it isn't cuckflare's fault? I don't usually fuck with that.
>>1404 Oh hey, it's back to normal. May as well try clear then.
Testing number one.
>>1406 Test number 2
>>1404 I would just check what your IP is. Possibly using a tool (or site) this will give both your IPv4 and IPv6 address. It seems like the case that people can get two IDs based on switching between them. I've never seen a Tor connection get an ID before. The problem being, your posts with IDs have an IP associated, and a hash of that IP was generated by LynxChan and used for both the ID and for moderation purposes. Would you be willing to get your IPv4 and (if available) IPv6 IPs and send them to me in an e-mail? My current address is codexx@cock.li. I am really curious where the IP over Tor Browser is coming from, and I'd like to rule some things out.
>>1408 Assuming this post using Tor has an ID attached and the problem didn't somehow resolve itself, then I'll contact you. I just want to shitpost normally and if I suddenly can now, it's all I care about.
>>1409 Looks like it's fixed. I'm still super concerned about the cause. If it happens again, please grab your IPs (and try to visit an IP-revealing site via Tor Browser, too) and send me a message.
>>1403 Hasn't happened since so it may have just been nothing (in case my id changes, I am >>1400 )
>>1310 >/pol/ is one person >I don't know what being anon is Just stop posting you fucking newfag. Did your mommy get you on Tor?
>>1410 >>1409 >>1408 Nevermind that, ID's switching again and I just had the "ID on Tor" thing again. I'm sending you a message.
>>1416 This post itself is case-in-point as I'm on Tor right now and got this ID.
What happened to /tech/? It's totally blown out...
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Isn't this something we should be concerned about? http://archive.vn/3pBF9 Looks like this sites IP address and the ddos protection is dependent on the pig farmer.
>>1422 I think that's old, from when we were with vanwa
>>1422 No, that map is 1-2 months old. I'm not sure why they haven't made a new one. That article contains a number of errors and omissions, and lumps us in with "QAnon Sites" despite there being no presence here. A tour of comment sections discussing this article demonstrates that the average reader has no idea that the core 8chan audience of 2014-2018 has ditched 8kun for alternatives. They're too busy talking about how much child porn there is and how the QBoomers are hypocrites and probably pedophiles. We no longer have any relationship with Vanwa. Our new host provides their own DDoS mitigation, and we've got a couple more just like them lined up. Failing that, we can fall back to Tor and Redchannit until heat dies down. There's lots we can do in the coming months to shore up defenses, so we'll continue to work on that. I expect some of them will come to fruition after we get the next update rolled out.
I have been mostly out of the loop since the stupid ass QAnon surge of 2018, pretty much haven't visited an imageboard since. Can someone give me a quick rundown on all the events of everything the past few years? Or is it really as simple as >old 8chan got increasingly shit >smaller other boards popped up Just really want to know where I should even go for the comfy 2014-2015 8chan feel, I miss real imageboards and the internet sucks without the close-knit group of anonymous faggots. Love you guys thanks
>>1425 8chan was going to shit in terms of general quality, but it shut down because cloudflare refused to service the site. Ron and Jim proceeded to spend the next 6 or 7 months doing god knows what. Meanwhile during the sites downtime the webring was formed, and many smaller sites popped up and joined it. The community migrated to those sites, the main ones being Mark's vch, julay, anon.cafe, smug, plw, and fatchan. Each site essentially addressed a collective of boards, vch - /v/, julay - /cow/, anon.cafe - /r9k/, smug - /a/, etc. When 8kun came back online it was functionally unusable. Not for a few days or weeks, but for months. Half the time you could only access it through tor, and even through tor it was broken and buggy as fuck. There was no explanation for why a site that worked fine through tor for years was suddenly completely fucked, as Ron communicated basically nothing. Mark eventually deleted vch and forced everyone to move to 8kun permanently despite much protest. Very few other boards that had a webring presence bothered to migrate to 8kun, only /animu/ was the other major board to be retarded enough to follow suit with Mark's decision. Eventually enough people got tired of questioning why there weren't any loli boards being migrated to 8kun and Mark was forced to publicly accuse Ron of banning loli. Ron proceeded to remove Mark as BO and Mark ditched the site. In his infinite wisdom he roamed around the webring, that he previously spent months slandering but that's another story, looking for a place to migrate to. He landed on fatchan and claimed /v/ there. Then he got clowned on and relentlessly bullied by anons for a myriad of reasons for an entire afternoon. I can't even recall all the blunders he made in the fatchan meta thread there were so many. I guess the biggest two was him going on a massive censorship spree because some anon asked if they were working with THQ nordic, and the other blunder was him forgetting to IP hop and defending himself in the third person with the same ID he used to capcode post with his BO capcode. Eventually he got bullied so hard he deleted the fatchan /v/ board all together. Then another anon remade /v/ and it kicked off as a pretty active successful board. Eventually Mark got Acid to make this site and shill it as the new 8chan. Mark made his /v/ here and literally no one migrated and everyone just stayed on the fatchan /v/ under a new board owner. This site essentially remained irrelevant and dead until fatchan started getting fucked with by a bad actor emailing the site host and the admin couldn't be bothered enough to deal with it so he shut it down. Then /v/ migrated here back into the warm embrace of Mark's arms. It's more of a tale of /v/ than a tale of 8chan. Most other boards have been doing just fine on their respective webring sites.
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>>1426 Alright, thanks. As much as a clown Mark has always been it's good to have this place and the webring.
A shill has been posting 3DCP, likely a member of the khazar mafia, in order to shut the site down for truth..err (((hate speech))) like typical. Just a feeling.
>>1430 Report it on sight please.
>>1432 CP getting posted on /v/.
I took care of it. They've been doing it all day. If you see CP then global report it. Any globals refreshing the global report queue will see it.
When you load a thread from a restored browser session on firefox the replies to a post act as if you clicked on them whenever you hover over them. This persists until you've refreshed each tab.
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>>1426 This is honestly pretty accurate. I had a bad feeling when Ron was "deliberating" on the 2d loli issue and reached out to Mark after he was fired by Jim and lost the old /v/ board. We talked and I told him a bit about an old idea I had for an imageboard site and we compared notes on domain names and software and things before we decided to just go for it. He put up money for part of the server fees and I got to work. The test site at 8chan.me got deplatformed almost immediately, and we brought in a guy who is WAY better at CSS and javascript than I am to help. We bounced back as 8chan.moe, brought on the old /tech/ BO as co-admin, and we've been running full speed ever since. When /v/ settled on Fatchan I resigned us to hopefully picking up some of the small boards that old 8chan had, like /ck/ and /sw/ and that we'd join the webring before all the crazy drama got started. A few weeks? later Fatchan got nuked and the admin threw in the towel and most anons came here. The Russian government deplatformed us from Vanwanet over 2d loli so we switched gears to an in-house CDN and a new host picked from the ridiculous list of backup plans that Codexx and I have worked out. We've also been contributing a bit to Lynxchan's development, with at least one of our ideas being baked into the new version 2.5 onward. >>1437 I'll bring this up with the dev team today.
>>1437 Can you give your exact browser version? Are you using any add-ons to save sessions or the built-in session manager? I've been unable to reproduce this bug so far.
>>1440 Tor Browser Bundle, built-in session manager. It's not that big of an issue if you can't replicate it easily. Refreshing the tabs is simple enough.

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