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Digimon games thread Anonymous 04/19/2021 (Mon) 23:05:23 Id:f70c22 No. 289170
Pokemon tends to stay the same but holy shit Digimon goes all over the fucking place. I loved Cyber Sleuth and plan to get the complete collection version because I never played the sequel and apparently it upgraded the first game to have all the fuckers they added in the second. You're going to come across EATER enemies in the first game pretty early so you should be looking for at least one mon with a piercing attack, you're also going to want to level up three poopmons into Platinum Sukemons and steal 9 Tactician USBs so you can insta-grind ya bois into infinity for endgame content, so do it ahead of time. Doesn't actually take as long as you think. I think the original adventure movies were trash but I think it's because life essentially ends for Japanese people when they leave school and become endless wage slaves due to japanese society. A lot of Japanese anime has that vibe lately because of all the fucking isekai/"hobo gets run over by bus and becomes overpowered" anime that's being released in the past decade, but when actually forced to tell a story that's not isekai it really shows how bleak society got over there. So aside from the absolute horribly fucked up existentialism, which is your favorite Digimon game, any recommendations?
>>298384 I still like both songs. As well as some of the music from Beyblade. >>298413 Thank you for your analysis, anon. I guess I like Mimi the most.
>>298419 >>298422 I watched Tamers as a kid, I didn't like it until they entered the Digital World. I just want to know how much of the real world I need to watch to get to the good parts.
>>298413 I've wanted Ruki since the first episode.
>>298463 And I've wanted the digicock
By the way, the Digimon X V-Pet is about to come out in the US, i think it's already available for pre-order in amazon. Do any of you guys like the Digimon vpets?
>>298460 Looking at a list of episodes, your best bet for when the stuff related to that starts happening is episode 23/24.
>>289170 >I think the original adventure movies were trash but I think it's because life essentially ends for Japanese people when they leave school and become endless wage slaves due to japanese society. > but when actually forced to tell a story that's not isekai it really shows how bleak society got over there. Have you watched Kachou Ouji? >>291821 >Do any of the Digimon anime still hold up? The first four seasons, Savers somewhat, haven't watched anything afterwards. And, it's been a several years since I watched them anyway. >>292506 >Then there is a manga, V-Tamer 01, that takes place in an alternate universe (like how most of the anime do) but has crossovers, and with the multiverse stuff, stuff that happens in one universe does affect others. Stuff that happens in V-Tamer 01 was referenced in Adventure the whole time, but of course kids, especially outside Japan, wouldn't get that. The only time V-Tamer crossed over was with 02, Frontier, and the protagonist of the WonderSwan games. >>296862 >They seemed to finally realize that starting over fresh every season just killed their momentum once a year. That's never a problem for Power Rangers or PreCure.
>>298510 >about to come out in the US >not ordering them from PREMIUM BANDAI STORE I have had the Ver.3 of the X for about a year and have 2 DIGIVICE Ver.Completes. Get on my fucking level.
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>>296862 I'd rather they go back to starting fresh every season if it means the Adventure cast can get laid to rest already. Truth be told, I was kind of hoping Tri would've built off 02's ending, as hated as it was, because at least that would've been better than the writer inserting a poorly written new character into the universe.
>>298526 >The first four seasons, Savers somewhat, haven't watched anything afterwards. Savers feels weird because the artstyle a bit different, but then Frontier feels weird because the kids turn into digimon. Savers ends up getting a much more interesting story and characters by the end though. Frontier has a fun light tone that makes it feel more like Adventure, but without almost anything that made Adventure actually interesting. Frontier feels very shallow, as far as Digimon goes. But then Xros Wars came out and made Frontier look like Citizen Kane. >The only time V-Tamer crossed over was with 02, Frontier, and the protagonist of the WonderSwan games. I'm aware. By crossing over with 02 it is effectively crossing over with Adventure. But for example, one of the things I was actually referring to (spoilered for top tier autism) The Digivice used in V-Tamer 01 is the Digivice 01, and notably cannot do a lot of stuff that the Digivices from Adventure can, like sending energy from the kids to the Digimon to help them evolve. However, at least there is a Digivice, which is technically more than Digimon World has, since that came out before. Later, Adventure 02 would have the D-3. It's the third Digivice, if you count the one from Adventure as the second. >tl;dr: V-Tamer 01 shows the series' early development and it's interesting to consider how it came out, and thus in multiverse-terms, happens before Adventure. >That's never a problem for Power Rangers or PreCure. I don't know PreCure, but I know when I was a kid, Power Rangers had a lot more carrying over every year than Digimon did starting with Tamers. I don't know if things have changed since. Adventure 02 was one thing, where it was a new cast but the same universe, and then Tamers was cool because it was like a "real world" thing and Tamers was fucking awesome, but when they rebooted every year, clearly they lost audience every year. It isn't rocket science that if you take away the characters and world and backstory that the audience is attached to, they'll have less incentive to come back each time you do that. >>298616 Unless one of the last few episodes of Digimon Adventure Colon somehow establishes that there is at least some sort of connection to the old universe, then as far as I'm concerned, these are new characters, and the original cast was laid to rest. They can have the same names and designs, but without the same histories, they aren't the same people. Now, given that Millenniummon is in the show, it's entirely possible that they could do some mega autistic shit and link it all up, but given all the episodes so far, I don't think they're gonna do anything close to that. Unless I missed a couple of the latest episodes from just forgetting to watch, because they're all very generic, and would never do anything cool like that.
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>>298616 >tomboy yamato what the hell have you just awoken in me anon
>>298743 >Frontier has a fun light tone that makes it feel more like Adventure At what fucking point does Adventure have a "fun light tone"? Adventure 02 maybe, but that's one of the many reasons 02 sucks. In 02 they can leave the digital world and end up treating it like a game (something explicitly mentioned later in the series). 01 however they spend most of the time running for their lives and trying to survive, or that arc with demidevimon, and every time they DO confront the bad guys it ends up with someone presumed dead.
>>298370 It was exempt from TV airings but was present on the VHS. I remember refusing to rewind said VHS back too far and, had I a better understanding of VHS technology, was thinking of trying to literally cut that part of the VHS tape out. >>298383 That's some damn fine taste. >>298743 >it's entirely possible that they could do some mega autistic shit and link it all up, but given all the episodes so far, I don't think they're gonna do anything close to that. So, here is something to know in regards to Digimon, which is that lore that pertains to the multiverse is left in breadcrumb format. by doing so, it leaves one able to enjoy a show/series/game on it's own without needing outside context to understand what the fuck is going on. Multiverse situations are left via breadcrumbs so that only lore autists LOOKING for it will find it as the discovery of the Big M in the newest Adventure series showcases that, if you KNOW who and what that thing is, then you know just how fucked sideways things are. >The story STARTS with a conjoining digimon virus and Omegamon is summoned >This means Yggdrasis is in HIGH FUCKING ALERT >find out that we are literally in a post-apocalyptic digital world where a bigass war took place, one bad enough where Yggdrasil took notice and presumably took action, hence his eagerness to summon Omegamon >Series has shown more of the divergent branching nature of digimon is important >Agumon's "wrong" evolutions showcase a change first into an incomplete Mugendramon, then into Blitz Greymon >Who is one half of Omegamon Alter S, who is NOT one of the royal knights and thus, not under Yggdrasil's thumb It really is looking interesting.
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>>299013 you're omegamon he's omegamon I'M OMEGAMON are there any other omegamons i should know about?! >*meow*
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>>299088 *meow*
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>>298413 >She knows she is effectively a superhero That's bullshit because it was implied they hadn't heard anything from the digital world for a while. What's even more bullshit is most of the Adventure cast treating two thirds of 02 as occasional side activity, but I digress. >but she almost lets Tokyo get nuked By not answering a call. By that logic the others not in the movie did the same thing. >because she didn't like a present Taichi got her. And Taichi had avoided any contact with her afterwards. >Worst girl. Xiaochun, (at the very least) pre-Lilymon Mimi and Miyako beg to differ. At least you remembered best girl Juri this time.
>>299097 I can't fuck this
>>298747 Nothing if you have good sense
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survive when NeO on PC when
>>299442 not with an attitude like that
>>299013 >So, here is something to know in regards to Digimon, which is that lore that pertains to the multiverse is left in breadcrumb format would you be willing to give us a 'tism talk on the subject?
i want a game like pokemon mystery dungeon but with digimon that isn't digimon world 2004 because that game was fucking garbage.
>>299634 Digimon World 2. Make sure to use your emulator's speed up function.
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>>299636 i already played it. i even installed a mod that ads content in post-game. its such a good game handicapped by the slow combat.
>>299634 >>299636 DW2 is kinda garbage. All the first three DWs were a little questionable. I love them because of nostalgia, but I think someone playing them for the first time won't like any of them. 1 is okay, but it's not the kind of game you're asking for. Everyone hates 4 so don't bother with that. There's also Digimon games for handhelds but I haven't played them.
>>299639 Oh, you liked it? I'm surprised. The mod probably added Kimeramon.
>>299640 of course its trash, i played it. all of it. and it was garbage. they made evolutions mega only and they're just cosmetic because your digimon uses guns and swords instead. >>299642 https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2587/
>>299645 >2021 romhack I've never seen this before. I'm shocked people are still making DW mods. The Kimeramon thing I was talking about was made way back in the day. I'll have to check this out sometime.
>>299648 read the changelog. this doesn't just add kimeramon on 99f of tera domain.
>>299651 Yeah, I saw. I mean a different mod did back in the day.
>>299653 also i am pretty sure the black megas in the hack are custom made, but i could be wrong.
>>298779 There's also an arc where the main bad guy is a monkey that is a professional popular music artist. It's overall a pretty lighthearted show. Less than Frontier, but still. There are times when it gets a little more serious, particularly in the Vamdemon arc, but it's still mostly pretty light. Especially when you have something like Tamers, which is much more serious in tone. >>299013 Obviously as soon as I started being able to guess who the bad guy in the new series would be, I got excited for some high-level autism, but the series is very light on story so far. Yes, I'm aware of how Digimon multiverse lore is very subtle, but this series in particular really seems like it doesn't want to do anything to complex at all, with any part of its plot. Like right off the bat, it seems pretty clear that the Millenniummon from the new series is not the same Millenniummon from Adventure/Tamers. So my hopes have been dashed. >>299327 >That's bullshit because it was implied they hadn't heard anything from the digital world for a while. Bullshit. Adventure took place in August 1999, and Our War Game is March 2000 (forgive me if I'm getting the dates slightly wrong, but I know it was really close to that). However, in between then, even if you don't look at any side material, the movie makes clear that they've made contact with their Digimon again even though they weren't supposed to after Adventure. Now, it is bullshit that technically that happens in an audio drama, but I digress. After that, Anode/Cathode Tamer happens on January 1, 2000, so there have been at least two events that happened since Adventure and before Our War Game, and one was only about three months earlier. So Sora knew she was still able to contact the Digimon, and that major events were still happening that required the intervention of the Chosen Children, but she just ignored one of her teammates because she didn't like a gift he got her. Total cunt. >By not answering a call. By that logic the others not in the movie did the same thing. The others in the movie missed the call by accident. Sora did it on purpose. >And Taichi had avoided any contact with her afterwards. Not being social with someone outside of your world saving destiny is a different matter than being so irresponsible like this. Also frankly she would have been a cunt due to her reaction either way. Taichi would be right to avoid a bitch like that. >Xiaochun, (at the very least) pre-Lilymon Mimi and Miyako beg to differ. Pre-Lilymon Mimi is a timeframe and not a character. Maybe if you counted their appearances in different series differently, I could buy that, but pre-Lilymon Mimi was clearly just a character that had not yet completed her planned arc. Her flaws exist so that the character can overcome them, and the clever planting of these flaws, long before we find out about the Crests, is one of the main reasons Adventure is so clever. Miyako is a cunt but the show doesn't expect you to pretend she isn't. That dissonance is what makes Sora so egregious. Xiaochun got the loli appeal and isn't a bitch. Barely a character, but at least not a bitch. Tamers has the best characters so it's really not fair to compare. Of course Ruki and Juri are the best, because they're in the series that generally focuses the most on having the most fleshed out characters. Adventure does that pretty well, but it's not really on the same level. In Adventure, you're left with three main girls; one that begins as a bitch but only so she can learn to be nice, a loli that is barely a character beyond being a perfect super special near-mary sue, and a tomboy that is secretly a cunt but is supposed to learn to not be a cunt, but actually she doesn't learn shit and keeps acting like a cunt. Their rankings are very easy. If I'm counting the whole Adventure universe, it goes Mimi>Hikari>Miyako>Sora>Mei. Don't worry, Mei is still the worst, and ruined the whole universe. And if Sora didn't totally cuck Taichi over a hairclip, he wouldn't have ended up with that cunt. They tried to say she was the girl Taichi is with in 02's epilogue, to justify why she would be important in Tri. So Sora is indirectly responsible for Tri. Fuck that. >>299627 Not him, but from what I can tell, the biggest infodump about the multiverse is in Brave Tamer, the fourth WonderSwan game. But beyond that, sometimes you get little bits of info that you kind of have to put together yourself. Like in the first Tamers movie, there is an Omegamon fighting an Apocalymon, and there's a line saying Apocalymon came back, and Omegamon chased him to this other universe, so you are clearly lead to think they're the same as the characters from Adventure, but you don't need to know that. Another cool bit is how Millenniummon is made from Chimeramon and Mugendramon. Mugendramon doesn't have a Digisoul, and Ken made Chimeramon from parts of different Digimon, including the Digisoul of Devimon from Adventure, whose hatred was so strong or something like that that his soul couldn't be destroyed, so technically, Millenniummon is Devimon. It also fits with how Millenniummon can't fucking die no matter what's done to him. Of course, that's also Mugendramon's thing, so Millenniummon is double immortal.
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>>301450 tamers also has the hottest digimon
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>>301669 Hey! That's not Meramon!
>>301450 Why do people hate the 02 ending and Tri so much? 02's ending was kind of cheesy, but still preferable I think to what they do in every other series where the kids and mons are forced to separate, permanently unless they decide to do a new season. As for tri, admittedly everything regarding "resets" is utterly retarded as a concept, but I don't see anything wrong with Mei specifically and I still enjoyed the series in spite of its flaws.


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