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Visual Novel Thread Anonymous 03/24/2021 (Wed) 00:41:32 Id: 2a0bcc No. 267918
The Visual Novel thread is back. Have you anons read anything good lately or been thinking about reading? Maybe looking for some recommendations? Hell, even a good H-scene is worth discussing. Helpful sites >VNDB - Visual Novel Database. Also has reviews and can sort by popularity https://vndb.org/ Most popular VN's: https://vndb.org/v?f=&o=d&s=rating >Fuwanovel - Forum that has walkthroughs for practically every VN's https://forums.fuwanovel.net/ >Nostalgic Visual Novels on-line: Can play old VN's directly in your browser. https://tss.asenheim.org/ I used it for Love Potion, its a great site >Visual Novel Publishers Jast USA: https://jastusa.com/ Jlist: https://www.jlist.com/category/games-computers/visual-novels Mangagamer (won't link it because some of their employees' are not trustworthy but quality is generally not too bad): https://web.archive.org/web/20200904080400/oneangrygamer.net/2020/03/mangagamer-leaked-discord-chat-shows-localization-staff-despise-fans/105399/ >(((Reddit))) r/visualnovels buying guide https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/wiki/buy *Do not under any circumstances buy VN's through Steam. They have been censoring VN's intensely for years now and only get worse with each purchase. If theres no other means to support, try torrenting or erogedownload or another alternative. As for me: Was going through Tsukihime for the first time a few weeks ago had to take a break because of a hard interview and enjoyed it a lot. Music wasn't anything spectacular, but characters were fascinating and had tons of depth. Finished the Arcueid route, still need to go through all the others. Also went through another run of Sengoku Rance, trying to max out on end-game points. Its a lot more fun with overpowered characters and the Masamune family, plus got all the reinforcements, each one is cute in their own way. Probably gonna try out more from Key/Type Moon after doing Tsukihime, was very impressed with it. Any anons here try out Fate Stay/Night or any other notable VN's?
What's that VN where you can date a fridge
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>>267918 >reddit >buy How far have we fallen
>>267922 Didnt feel like listing out every publisher, plus jast/jlist aren’t terrible depending on the developer. Just wanted to list the option to people who wanted to support. Some VN’s like majikoi now have a physical release through there anyways.
>>267926 >majikoi >poorly-written, rape-infested shit No thanks. This thread is poorly scraped from /animu/ by the way.
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>>267926 >cancer personified in a single post >>267931 Why are you making shit up?
>>267918 I'm also thinking of a fresh run through Sengoku Rance, due to how bad Quest was. Might try for another 5 star demon king route, too. Remember kids: Miko units are amazing!
>>267921 I feel like i should understand this reference >>267931 >majikoi What the fuck? That games nearly all vanilla >>267953 Wasn't quest just translated? I've only heard good things
>>267968 >Wasn't quest just translated? I've only heard good things So far i find a lot of the systems in it kinda annoying (i hated the you can only use a unit X number of times in a dungeon thing in Rance 6 and i hate it here too) but i've heard it gets better as you go. The early game is a fucking slog though, i frequently feel like i just don't have enough characters/moves to complete quests.
>>267979 have you tried cheating? Its a h game not exactly something worth bragging about.
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>>267918 What are some good VNs with RPG element?
>>267918 > Have you anons read anything good lately or been thinking about reading? No, I only play video games.
>>268035 Reading can be fun. >>268032 I'd say Rance but you cabn't really say its role playing when he only ever has 2 modes.
>>267918 >If theres no other means to support At least link DMM or DLSite as alternatives if Steam is a problem.
>>267918 > Finished the Arcueid route, still need to go through all the others. Buckle up. It gets rougher from there. >Been Playin' Casually picking through Sonnova Witch/Sabbat of the Witch/サノバウィッチ. Long, cute, funny, actually a nice cooldown so as to not engage the brain in anything suspenseful or complex given my attention span has been short for those types, these days. I'm liking it. Touko best girl. I'll probably re-run Tsukihime myself since it's been a long time, and I want a refresher for when the title releases this summer.
>>268080 >this summer Does Sacchin get a route?
>>268096 Sacchin route confirmed. However: >Monkey's Paw All Ages version. She will never get the Tohno DIck.
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I've recently read Chaos;Head through youtube because my PC wouldn't get past the title screen without crashing and it was really good. The horror atmosphere was top notch. Takumi was also a well written protagonist with attributes that people will either love or hate, like how he keeps trying to avoid getting involved with the murders. The part where he finally awakens his Di-sword by Chapter 9's climax was probably my favorite part of the whole thing. However, the writing can get sloppy at times, like Takumi not remembering the doodle Grim sent him in the beginning until it reappears in chapter 8 or 9 or the clumsy foreshadowing of who one of the killers is, thanks to a fucking ringtone and him telling us where it's from. The heroines weren't really well-developed with the exceptions of Aoi Sena and Sakihata Rimi, but I heard that was because it was rushed and the "Noah" director's cut rerelease fixes that problem, so I'm looking forward to the patch/port that Committee of Zero is working on. I'm now going through Tsukihime for the first time as well as reading Steins;Gate again. After S;G I'll start reading the sequel to C;H, Chaos;Child. Heard great things about that one and I'm looking forward to it.
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>>268032 Agreed with >>268044, Rance is pretty much an RPG. Kamidori Alchemy Meister is another good one though its long. Monster Girl Quest is another that comes to mind but I haven't done it myself - heard relatively good things about it if you can handle the graphics. >>267979 Damn, that reminds me of the dungeon system in Sengoku a bit.That was one of my least favorite aspects of the game. >>268070 >>267918 DLsite: https://www.dlsite.com/home/ DLsite english: https://www.dlsite.com/home/?locale=en_US DMM: https://dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/ DMM english: http://www.dmm.com/en/ Keep in mind if you have a hacked vita as well, there are a lot of VN's which you can download through pkgj like Steins;Gate, Danganronpa, Utawarerumono, etc. I personally prefer playing handheld than on computer so if thats your thing, take a look into the library. Some people tried to port Higurashi/Umineko and some other vn's to the vita but I couldn't run those for the life of me. There's also a fair amount of VN's coming to the switch as well though I haven't really tried any so I can't speak for its quality. haven't bothered to use the switch yet besides for Our World is Ended which was a meh port of a pretty good VN Not sure about the quality of VN's on other platforms. >>268120 Been planning on reading Chaos;Head, it sounds like the experience itself was well worth it. >I'm now going through Tsukihime for the first time as well as reading Steins;Gate again. At the same time? I usually can't keep track when I start reading multiple VN's at the same time, how's that been working for you if thats the case.
>>268139 Well, I might hold off Tsukihime until I finish C;C instead. I'm pretty early into it enough where if I quit now, I won't feel too bad. >Keep in mind if you have a hacked vita as well, there are a lot of VN's which you can download through pkgj like Steins;Gate, Danganronpa, Utawarerumono, etc. Man, I should really homebrew my own. Here's a guide I found that I hope helps other anons here. https://vita.hacks.guide/
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I will be finishing the dyke Gamedev VN soon. Reading the After story now which also has some implied fucked up shit. When Grisaia's porn scenes finally showed up, I had to take a break because stuff like that is too cheesy for me. The voices are irritating and the actors sound like they're phoning it in. Real hentai has spoiled me I guess. After checking the VN list, the next one I'm interested in starting will be Higurashi. Maybe YU-NO, followed by Katawa Shoujo. Dropped Katawa before due to a botched port I think. Handhelds are the way to go, I agree.
>>268032 Brave Soul is sort of like Diablo but with hentai.
>>268032 Baldr Sky
Weren't the VN threads on /animu/? What happened to that?
>>268611 VN’s are games as far as I’m concerned, they can be discussed in more than one place. >>268343 I tried reading Baldr Sky earlier this year but it felt like an extremely long slice of life, was there anything really special about it?
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Got done with Higurashi, I watched Gou too and I wish I didn't. I also read Tsuki, PlusDisc and Kagetsu Tohya last year. I heard Mahoyo translation stopped being dead, is it true?
>>267931 >rape-infested shit literally never heard anyone say this about the game. So im just going to assume you're lying.
>>268114 I just wanted an excuse to say Isn't it sad, Sacchin?
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Has anyone read Kana Little Sister? If so, do you read it for the depressing themes or the eroge content? I'm primarily looking for some dark stuff to read, so if eroge content is the main thing, then I'll just read something else.
Also, how is White Album? Should I read the first chapter or just read Chapter 2?
>>268725 It is somewhat depressing but the VN talks more about the acceptance of death and shit, there's only like 3 ero scenes.One of them can't even be skipped so you get basically raped
>>268725 I played it a long time ago when I was like 17. It doesn't have that much eroge content. It's just a depressing love story where a dude falls in love with his dying sister. If you are looking for others to play Saya No Uta is a great one.
>>268950 >>268973 Okay, thanks for the information. I'll be sure to check out Saya no Uta as well. Been meaning to read it for years now but never got to it.
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I managed to grab the 8 chapters of Higurashi and used the 07th mod to fix those horrible, abomination sprites. The remakes make them look like Ayys while the originals have not aged well. If I ever got into Umineko, I would use the original sprites for the meme factor. I haven't watched the anime before so Gou was a bit confusing since it skips context like why different grades share a classroom, etc. Also, I got the Windows port of the old school YU-NO installed with the fan translation patch. Might as well grab the voice files too. It's almost hard to believe this game is 25 years old.
>>267979 >The early game is a fucking slog though, i frequently feel like i just don't have enough characters/moves to complete quests. As >>268024 said, cheating is a good option here. Quest is the most Cheatengine-friendly Rance game I've played thus far. The early game really is a slog here, both gameplay-wise and story-wise. But about a quarter in, things really pick up. I'd even say that its gameplay is more polished than that of Sengoku - but you won't notice that until you're at least halfway into the plot. Best thing I liked about Quest is that there's no hard cap on how many units you can have on your roster. That's what I really hated about Sengoku; you can have only like 30 commanders there and that's it. Rance 6 also has a limited roster, but it's much more of a problem in Sengoku. Honestly, Kichikuou Rance is still better than Sengoku. Even though its interface is clunky and ancient.
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https://www.gematsu.com/2021/03/tsukihime-a-piece-of-blue-glass-moon-launches-august-26-in-japan >As the subtitle “A Piece of Blue Glass Moon” indicates, it will be “Face of the Moon” edition that contains the stories of the two heroines Arcueid and Ciel. Although this is less routes than the original, those who have played that version will be able to experience this game with a nostalgic, yet new and mysterious feel. The routes not featured in Tsukihime: A Piece of Blue Glass Moon will appear another time, in “another Tsukihime” that depicts “the other side of the moon.”
>>269805 Don't forget to archive next time, new friend. https://archive.vn/wO2qA
>>269239 >I managed to grab the 8 chapters of Higurashi and used the 07th mod to fix those horrible, abomination sprites The 07th mod really improved Higurashi a ton. I actually very much enjoyed the lip sync and all quality of life features they added. I couldn't take the sprites in Higurashi seriously until I applied the mod as well. I will recommend, based on my experience, to keep the original sprites + no voice acting with Umineko though. The voice acting has a stellar cast and its outstanding, but imo the voice acting took away from the ambience and immersion the music had originally made. The way ryukishi made it originally was amazing, the suspense is amplified with the music and sound effects. I also used the original sprites which were goofy at first, but as time went on, i believed the expressions to add also to the thrill. When the expressions were well made and the voice acting was top notch, it felt like I was watching a great movie, rather than walking alongside in terror with the Ushiromiya family.
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read umineko you pieces of shit
Any good visual novels with good *impregnation* mechanics?
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>>272690 Reading post EP4 (I personally think post EP3) becomes a sunk cost fallacy.
>>272690 I don't know anything about this series, but I want to hold this blue haired woman's hand.
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>>272556 I am using the original SE and Music. I will keep the console sprites and voices though. Hearing the girls laugh becomes unsettling once you know how they sound when they're insane. The anime spoiled me so I can't take the old art style seriously, sorry. Oji-san class rep is best girl.
>>268643 In an otherwise pure-hearted route, you rape the blonde foreigner in her sleep for "being a prude" in order to "cement (their) love". I was willing to give the Shiina route a pass despite passing the first and second base and jumping straight to home plate, but I couldn't allow the rape. It was bad enough I had to sit through the game's terrible writing, macguffins, deus ex machinas, and character bias. I also didn't like the OPM-esque powers everyone seemed to have, with not much explanation, though people have told me that bit is nitpicking so I'll let it go. If you want a better 'wacky school slice of life' VN in the same vein then read Cross Channel.
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>>272800 dont forget head pats >>272827 I did the same for Higurashi and agreed. I was also impressed with the console sprites that they had the crazy eyes drawn pretty well. In Umineko, I felt that the console crazy eyes were not nearly as intense as the original sprites'. >The anime spoiled me I have been tempted to watch the anime for some time, been hearing very good things about it from people who haven't read Higurashi though. Is it worth the watch? >>272858 >In an otherwise pure-hearted route, you rape the blonde foreigner in her sleep for "being a prude" in order to "cement (their) love". I was willing to give the Shiina route a pass despite passing the first and second base and jumping straight to home plate, but I couldn't allow the rape. Faggot, there is no way you are that much of a pussy. There are tons of great VNs that have rape involved in the story in some way. Grow a sack and remember it's not real. >It was bad enough I had to sit through the game's terrible writing, macguffins, deus ex machinas, and character bias. I also didn't like the OPM-esque powers everyone seemed to have, with not much explanation, though people have told me that bit is nitpicking so I'll let it go. If you want a better 'wacky school slice of life' VN in the same vein then read Cross Channel. I haven't yet finished Majikoi myself, but I am aware of VN's that do something similar. You aren't supposed to expect a steins;gate level plot and story-telling with this, and you aren't supposed to think too deeply about certain details. The VN is meant to give you a good time and memories, that's all.
>>272858 >rape They were lusting for each other, but the foreigner chick didn't want to go against her controlling father. So MC makes it a a fait accompli through night creeping. Also in the Shiina route, you're supposed to have the intellect to understand that all the joke bad ends where she tricks you into marrying her/having sex with her meant that she'd been wanting MC's dick non stop for over 10 years, and all the MC had to do start fucking her was to say "yes". And the reason he was hesitant to say yes to her before was that he wasn't certain of his feelings for her, and that saying yes without meaning it would be a terrible thing to do to Shiina.
>>273072 >only argument is “w-well, majikoi isnt SUPPOSED to have good writing!!!” By the by, faggot, I love the Rance series and like the comedy in the games - the reason I dont like rape in Majokoi is because it’s completely out of character (though the writing is so terrible at times that a character’s MO changing like that isn’t to be unexpected) and also completely unnecessary, if not entirely forced plot-wise. For the record, I haven’t read Majikoi since I beat it many years ago so my memory is fuzzy but I do remember that the Cap ‘route’, the big sister route, and the sword girl route were particularly shit, though for different reasons. I actually liked Cap as a character until I did his route, that’s how bad and poorly written it was. Again, if you want wacky schoolshit VNs in the same vein go for well written stuff like Cross Channel or Clannad instead
>>272742 There's one where MC ends up as a pregnancy coach and nails all the attendees including his sister and mother in various routes. Pretty good. I forget the name, though.
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Initially an April fools joke that turned out to be real a Visual Novel published by manga gamer called "Horny Elves and a Moral Orc" a eroge adaptation of a hentai manga by Tomokitty. https://archive.is/l8unQ http://operationrainfall.com/2021/04/01/mangagamer-announces-acquisition-of-horny-elves-and-a-moral-orc/
>>273604 What's the name of this one?
>>269239 >to fix those horrible, abomination sprites Shit taste.
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>>276976 Im not that anon but i believe its Maman Kyoushitsu ~Mirai no H na Obenkyou~ vndb.org/v2748
>>277041 That's it, yeah. Best fun time with preggos an anon can have.
>>272827 No she isn't.
There was this visual novel i played a long time ago. it was called Snow Sakura. A pity i completed the route for the most boring girl. i heard the cousin and the rich girl route were the best.
>>280278 Thats why you always complete all routes
>>277041 I just played the Honoka/Emiko routes. Honoka's route made MC a villain. Emiko's route was the best.
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>>272827 >Oji-san class rep is best girl. Mion is pretty good, but I like Rena better, personally. All of the Higurashi girls are pretty good, though.
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>>269805 >Remake >PS4 and Switch only I am guessing that it will have no ero scene
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>>268642 https://hollow-moon.github.io/wohn-tl/ https://archive.is/vEyLK From what it seems like, they are still working on it but there's no guarantee the remaining chapters 9 and 10 will be translated. >>268725 >Has anyone read Kana Little Sister? I had some issues with the pacing when I first read it, didn't finish it. The music and ambience usually lulled me to sleep half the time so I gave up. If you're interested in some dark stuff, Muv-Luv is pretty dark, same with Steins;Gate. Higurashi is dark as well, though its very long. I've heard Kara no Shoujo is a dark detective VN which I plan on doing soon, haven't started it yet. >>276912 Looked into it a little bit, seems like its pretty funny. The art style seems a bit bland though. Anyone tried this one yet? >>284031 >Although this is less routes than the original, those who have played that version will be able to experience this game with a nostalgic, yet new and mysterious feel. Who the hell are they fooling? This is a 20 year old game, how the hell could they not include all the routes and additional content? Can it get any worse? >>284031 >I am guessing that it will have no ero scene Tsukihime had some very nice H scenes. Damn it.
>>284031 >>284079 Nasu is a hack
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Are there any good, translated amagami VN's?
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Finally got my ass to read Fate Stay Night and god damn it all these lore dumps are killing me. Besides that the white haired girl is so cute despite being crazy, when her route is unlocked?
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>>284277 Well?
>>280287 Not always. I never went back to Kawata Shoujo, myself. The inconsistent writing was a pain in the ass, even regarding it as babby's first VN type. >>284079 >Tsukihime had some very nice H scenes. Damn it. Mollusks hilarity aside, yes it did. I prefer porn scenes that actually blend themselves into the characters. Ciel's secret horny streak was neat. Akiha actively wanting all parts of a relationsihp, regardless of taboo, was also great. [ >>284277 Weren't there some PSP or PS3 games for this? I'll keep an eye out if so. >>284280 Anon....
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>>284280 Yeah. A shame what this series devolved into. What a shitshow.
>>284277 >>284384 There's only one (1) Amagami dating sim which was originally released on PS2 and then got an expanded version - Amagami EbiKore+, on PS2, PSP & Vita. It's been in translation hell for about eight years or so. nishishitranslations.wordpress.com
>>287032 I am sure that one of those days it will be done.
>>287229 You and me both my fellow #5 brother.
>>277041 I actually read this one in its entirety some years back. It's a cheap crappy fetish nukige so don't go in expecting much, but it might be worth a few faps. Oddly enough in a game about milfs and pregnant girls the best girl is the one who is initially neither of those things. I read one or two others by the same developer and they're roughly the same sort of thing: lots of incest and pregnancy, and mostly worthless trash except that some of the girls are surprisingly likeable. They also have harem routes, which is nice. >>280297 Emiko annoyed me because she basically hijacks the sister's route and turns it into a threesome route. It seems like they ran out of budget and weren't able to finish both the sister and mother+sister routes, so you reach a choice where one option enters the mother+sister route, and the other just gives and almost instant ending with the sister. Incestuous oyakodon is very important so I get why they prioritised that, but it's a shame that the sister barely gets a route.
Would John Moses Browning be a powerful servant for a relatively recent (died less than 100 years ago) historical figure? >was already a living legend a century before he made his masterwork >internationally well known and highly regarded in the present day >most of his inventions have their own mythology even today, giving him plenty of Noble Phantasms >.45 ACP can spam Broken Phantasm since it's easily obtained in the tens of thousands >can stack it with 1911
>>284385 >Not always. I never went back to Kawata Shoujo, myself. The inconsistent writing was a pain in the ass, even regarding it as babby's first VN type. Katawa Shoujo was just so much wasted potential. The demo/Act 1 was pretty nice for what it was, but the later content in the full version was just such a mess. You could actually tell from the writing that there was just constant drama going on between the writers. I was so hyped when I first got hold of the full version. Yet I had to force myself to finish Lily's route, and I couldn't even be bothered to start a second playthrough. Pretty sure I haven't even touched the game since.
>>307524 Nasu only allows Japanese swordsmen and literally-whos to become servants. I've been saying for years now that the best idea is just taking Nasu's concept of summoning major/minor historical figures from both fiction and non-fiction and making your own non-Japan-centered series about it. You'd probably get a huge following for it as long as you have someone like takeuchi (but actually talented) to draw your characters for you.
>>309905 >>307524 >Saber Charles XII >Archer Henry V (Gets the Saberface treatment) >Lancer Saladin >Rider Manfred von Richthofen >Caster Dante Alighieri >Assassin Guy Fawkes (Turned into an anarchist loli wearing an EFG mask instead of being a retarded Italian papist patsy) >Berserker George III (Because of his "Mad King George" reputation) Probably could make something good out of this.
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>>309905 >this autist is still around
Any vn with a good enough traditional gameplay? The only ones I know are Rance and MGQ. Or any traditional game with good enough plot and titties?
>>309956 If you liked Sengoku Rance, you'd probably like Big Bang Age and Kichikuou Rance (if you haven't played that yet). Kichikuou is a downgrade on the gameplay front compared to Sengoku and has a slightly different system so it's hard to adapt to, but its gameplay is good in many of the ways that Sengoku's is. Aside from that and away from porn, I'd recommend trying the first two Zero Escape games, 999 and Virtue's Last Reward. They are really solid point-and-click adventures with VN-style storytelling between rooms filled with puzzles with solutions that are generally capable of being reached by thinking rather than the brute force/trial-and-error that often plagues the genre.
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>>267918 I tried out TH2 because of DT, I had no idea I needed this in my life so much
>>310237 I haven't heard of this one before. What made you like it so much?
>>309905 >The biggest takeaway from a story about a boy's mortal struggle with heorism vs personal relationships and the only thing taken away from it is who is that historical pokemon This is why I hate talking about this series nowadays.
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>>310264 ToHeart is one of Leaf's oldest franchises, it competed directly with games like Clannad and FSN. You might know them from Utawarerumono, their other big series. I found the characters likable and relatable, As mentioned above, I was actually motivated to finally play this after years of being on my radar thanks to Dungeon Travelers, a DRPG spin-off I also love.>>310264
>>309956 Bunny Black. >>309885 You got further than I did. I finished Cripple legs (Can't be bothered to remember her name), slogged through Crispy-chan, and powered through deaf girl though to this day I can't tell you how. I had a brief moment of hope when pink bitch decided the answer to her depression over not getting her non-sonic taco was to sleep with her bestie's boyfriend—a move that was VERY realistic because teenage girls are the most unstable element on the planet—and it was the last straw for me when that particular instance ended up going absolutely nowhere. 10 minutes into No-Hands McRetard, I just gave up entirely. >>310237 That one's on my list, next. >>310264 As anon said, ToHeart is a different breed from a different time. Even the anime variations are low key, engaging, and you roll with the characters despite both MCs being that tried and true template of milquetoast inserts.
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>>310420 It's clearly branched out further than just about Shirou's story arc, though. And taken by itself, his arc is your typical shounen tale out of Japan. And Nasu also clearly wanted the Fate 'universe' to stand on its own considering how much sheer dialogue in FSN is devoted to explaining the HGW, servants, myths, and the mechanics therein. >>310429 Sounds to me like you just have a problem with extended reading periods. KS is entry-level but still good, and especially remarkable considering how it came to be.
>>310420 You say that as if the only value in FSN is it's original story with Shiro as the protag. It's undoubtedly the best part of Fate even to this day, but it established so much of the universe containing it that it would be stupid to not take advantage of that. Sadly, that comes with the added cancer that are secondaries.
>>310437 >It's clearly branched out further than just about Shirou's story arc, though. The only thing that branched was the lore, because Nasu is a very established lore whore—hence him releasing four different almanacs with background stories and snippits on characters that may or may not have had any screentime. Granted, actual story did result at least one time with Fate/Zero. The rest (Tiger Collisseum, Extra, Extella, Apocrphya, FGO, etc) are either silly spin offs, waifu spin offs, or substanceless dreck built entirely on the premise of "Who's that historical Pokémon?!". >And taken by itself, his arc is your typical shounen tale out of Japan. Debatable. Especially since so much of the narrative goes out of its way to show you why Shirou's distorted optimism, often a staple in many Japanese stories, is such an unhealthy thing, despite others (Rin, Sakura, Saber, and even Rider) wanting to believe in it. That's a side peeve—people often labeling it shounen demographic when they really mean naive hero obtaining godly power to punch demons in the face with panyshots in the background and nobody dies...and that actually doesn't describe FSN very well. But, again, side peeve of no consequence. > And Nasu also clearly wanted the Fate 'universe' to stand on its own considering how much sheer dialogue in FSN is devoted to explaining the HGW, servants, myths, and the mechanics therein. Already covered, but Nasu's a lore whore. He wrote just as much (if not more) on the frame setting that became Tsukihime (and Kara no Kyoukai before that), and has, iirc, done at least four scenarios on the End of Times (1 featured in Extella, another 2 being the carrots you chase in FGO iirc, and also Notes). But compare those encyclopedias to the amount of actual progressive storyline that he's written, and you will notice quite the sharp contrast regardless of the TM franchise topic. Tsukihime has itself, Kagetsu Tohya, a Tsuki 2 prologue, and a fandisc sidestory about two other Mystic Eye users, but at least 3 almanacs explaining vampires, magic, Atlas, Dust of Osiris, Archtype Earth, Satsujinki, and all the wear around them. I mean I get it and it's fine to love the historical pokemon gimmick, but much like the waifu stuff I don't think it should've taken center stage when he doesn't have story content to back it up. inb4 Wavershit. He didn't write that, and that novel and anime was complete ass. And much like FGO and Apocrypha, it breaks the foundational setting quite a bit. >Sounds to me like you just have a problem with extended reading periods. KS is entry-level but still good, and especially remarkable considering how it came to be. More like KS was boring and hardly relatable to me. I've gone through more eroge and VNs than I can even remember. KS was boring and, far worse, disjointed. They didn't engage an editor to smooth out the noticeable bumps in the various routes, Legless bunny was honestly the best time going in. Everyone else was just worse and worse.
>>310454 >are either silly spin offs, waifu spin offs, or substanceless dreck built entirely on the premise of "Who's that historical Pokémon?!". Pseudo-Secondary detected. Extra and CCC are lore-heavy and involve a lot more than just introducing new historical/mythical figures. How do you explain Hollow Ataraxia? That was all the same characters unless you count the very brief cameos from Medusa's sisters. >I mean I get it and it's fine to love the historical pokemon gimmick, but much like the waifu stuff I don't think it should've taken center stage when he doesn't have story content to back it up. I think it's understandable that it does considering Nasu and his other occassional writers are all pretty mediocre more often than not. Sometimes you get good writing and good stories but Nasu is really just your typical Japanese shounen writer who keeps contradicting his own stories (even in FSN you saw lots of contradictions of itself) and lately especially he's just gotten worse at it. He even admitted in one of the last magazine interviews that he's playing Genshit Impact more than he is actually writing Type Moon stories. You get a mountain of crap and he just happens to have written a pretty cool idea like summoning historical figures (originally, only those who would have an interest in obtaining the Holy Grail of myth) and of course people latch on to that part, rather than the bullshit with Types and the painfully generic shit like with the Apostles. FSN is fine and enjoyable on its own but there's not much that can be added to Shirou's arc other than the long-awaited Illya and Taiga routes. There is, however, much that can be done with the HGW idea. Also, I don't really get your whole "pokemon" strawman, in a normal holy grail war, you only get one servant. >And much like FGO and Apocrypha, it breaks the foundational setting quite a bit. Yet Nasu is the lead writer for FGO and has to greenlight everything put in it. Kinda funny, huh?
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>>310466 >Taiga will never summon Iskandar as a servant, punch Kirei out of existence and conquer the world
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>>310466 >Extra and CCC are lore-heavy No, son. No they are not. It wasn't even penned by Nasu to start with. He dove to help the now-defunct developers at the last minute when an inspection revealed how far off the rails the beta for Fate/Extra had gone. Yes, he DID pen CCC, but he was building off someone else's work (as opposed to, say, F/Z, where Urobuchi was working from Nasu's extensive notes). The lore you see in Extra is entirely new...and also hilariously defunct thanks to the walking fanfiction piece that's Fate/Extella. The best shot you have for F/Extra to have relevant lore and story now lies trendily in the remake that's being worked on now. But as a reminder, it's being worked on directly by Marvelous, who are now self-censoring themselves to stay on Sony's good side. So g'luck with that. >I think it's understandable that it does considering Nasu and his other occassional writers are all pretty mediocre more often than not. Highly debatable. I refuse to defend his staff, as they're all essentially yes men who are looking to make their own waifus (as evidenced by Grand Order and Apocrypha both), but Nasu is actually a dman-competent writer whose strengths are his world building (which he obviously loves) and crafting character stories (which he does not do often, if at all, anymore). His work speaks for him—Takeuchi's designs aside, no one would give a fuck about any of the heroic spirits, gimmick or no, if he didn't put a lot of love and nuance into them. A complete psychotic like Shiki Ryougi, who essentially is a two-note serial killer, actually enraptures people. I'll bring up my gripe for the Tsuki remake up again: the fact that it's all-ages is a massive loss. Some of Kohaku's most terrifying and also deep moments for her character were conveyed right in the sex scenes. And I don't mean the mollusks bits. The guy has a way with a pen. > I don't really get your whole "pokemon" strawman, in a normal holy grail war, you only get one servant. Unless you're an Einzbern or Rin Tohsaka, and then you get two. I keep repeating it because that is exactly the gimmick: a 7 person (or 14 or 128) person battle royalle with your favorite history/mythos figure. And the fandom at large focuses on what said figures can do in a fight than any other aspect . Not their role in a story, but whom can beat up whom before Shiki kills them all. >Yet Nasu is the lead writer for FGO and has to greenlight everything put in it. Kinda funny, huh? He also greenlit Apocrypha and Extella, so that's not really a point in his favor.
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>>310466 Missed something. >and of course people latch on to that part, rather than the bullshit with Types and the painfully generic shit like with the Apostles. >Aposltes >Generic >A living vampire rainforest >A shouta with JoJo-like apparitions for arms and legs >A vampire that exists entirely on the mathematical calculation of fear and heresay >A dog designed to kill humanity on sight that is the pet of the only other vampire princess >A literal Devil May Cry homage character >Generic >There is, however, much that can be done with the HGW idea. >Shirou's story is generic >We can run tournaments into eternity Yes, yes, we're all looking forward to Fate/Sword & Shield I'm sure.
>>310622 >>310624 Nasu should have kept Shiro a girl and Arthur as Arthur like he originally wanted to.
>>310662 read Prototype
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>>310420 Having being done with F/SN I'm convinced this series runs on Waifu/Husband faggotry and lore Shirou character arc was pretty cool in UBW, though he does feel like a different character in each route which I suppose it's a given. Was gonna try HA/Zero after, but im gonna give the series a rest.
My visual novel thread is better stop using this one. https://zzzchan.xyz/v/thread/49192.html
Does Corruption of Champions count as a VN?
>>340402 That thread reads like chimpanzees throwing their own shit at each other.
>>340597 All the more reason for you to go there.
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>>267918 Recently played through world's end economica. It was pretty good though the love side plot is an absolute mess. 7/10 pretty good if you can ignore how shit the love is.
>>346138 I only read the first part. I really liked the economics aspect of it, but I hated the protagonist, and I disliked the love interest. He was too schizophrenic for me to enjoy. The girl was just way too boring. I really liked the religious chick though .
>>346162 I'd recommend the second part, I was very close to dropping it after part 1 and early part 2, but it got better.
>>340402 When will the fags at Bamco/Banpresto fags add Muv Luv to the SRW rooster?
Finally reading through Steins;Gate for the first time, and I'm wondering about how Luka's wish in Chapter 4 is handled in the original vs. the English translation. Can an anon tell me if the original is similarly-cucked, or if this is yet another indoctrination trannylation translation fuckup like we're seeing in an increasing number of VNs of late? The story still seems pretty interesting, so hopefully they don't dwell on it for much longer, and I can finish the damn thing.
>>349316 Sorry for the doublepost, but I should note that based on the cellphone conversations you have earlier with Luka, at least they're clearly implying that troonfaggotry is, in fact, ultimately situated in abusive parenting and/or mental illness. Still, they lay it on pretty fucking thick, at least in the translation, referring to him as "a poster child for Japan's LGBT community" and saying that, "if he's that desperate, the best option for him would be a sex-change operation".
>>349317 I read through the VN and don't remember either of those lines, but it's possible I played a fan translation. In fact, I remember him identifying specifically as a guy, just one that is very feminine and forced to wear girly clothes often. Aside from slightly preferring to be a girl (mainly for plot contrivance of each girl needing to make a sacrifice to save Matsuri) and the implication he might still be attracted to the main character even as a dude there's almost no mention of anything gay. But leave it to western translators to project western gay stereotypes onto a Japanese character they aren't applicable to. He's otokonoko, not a tranny.
>>349323 > In fact, I remember him identifying specifically as a guy, just one that is very feminine and forced to wear girly clothes often. Yes, exactly; it's especially weird, because that's how they build up his character throughout the first stretch of the game, including via reference to the fact that he had no real choice in dressing that way for most of his life. It almost reminded me of the whole (((John Money))) debacle in some respects, which was a surprisingly based direction in which to take the subplot. >Aside from slightly preferring to be a girl (mainly for plot contrivance of each girl needing to make a sacrifice to save Matsuri) In the official translation, there's no "slightly" about it lol. Shit. I might have to dig up a fan translation at some point, just to compare the two. >But leave it to western translators to project western gay stereotypes onto a Japanese character they aren't applicable to. He's otokonoko, not a tranny. Yep. Between the ongoing fuckups in Muv-Luv (the out-of-place references to "racist stereotypes" and memespeak in Photonmelodies, the laughable pricing model for TDA), the notorious issue with AI: The Somnium Files, and now this in fucking Steins;Gate, I'm really getting worried for the future of VNs. It would be bad enough if they were only pozzed once they got over here, but AI proved that they're even getting the globohomo treatment domestically sometimes. Hopefully this will only apply to Chapter 4, and the rest will resume its former high quality.
>>355620 >server specifically for chan users. Pretty much "how far have we fallen". I second that anon you replied to. post the relevant info here or fuck off.
>>355627 I mean if you want half the threads to be the same info reposted over and over, sure. the point of secondary sites are so that each thread isn't literally half shit that needs to be copy/pasted from last thread.
>>355632 The point is that I don't want to use discord.
>>355647 ok, that's fine. You're not being forced to. A bit odd to go out of the way to say that though. If you prefer moege, do you go out of the way to shitpost on anyone mentioning a plotge? ....don't answer that
>>355651 My only words for you are the following: Fucking lol. Go back to wherever you came from.
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Himawari is pretty cool
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>>355691 >Fine. Reported. You can answer to Kazu now, nigga. Again:lol.
>>355693 I enjoyed fantasizing about the dna memory scifi stuff, though it did open up some big questions about how exactly the story could even work. On the other hand I genuinely hated every single character in the story aside from Aqua and the whole Amamiya family. Lots of actions characters take seem to just be created because the author though a certain course of events would be dramatic and neat to think about. Though that bit is highly subjective.
As long as I'm venting some autism here's a general gripe: Why is it that whenever VN writers get even a bit of financial freedom the first thing they do is rape and torture all the girls in their story? I can't read that shit. Sure it's been a part of stories that I am glad I've read, but for everyone one of those there are about 20 VNs that I've just dropped. So I now don't even take the risk of getting invested if a background check of vndb turns up any rape. I'm honestly bored of pure romance moege shit at this point. I'd like an actual story. But these people can't tell one without raping everyone I mean fuck.
Is 999 on the DS the best way to play it or is nonary games better?
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Reminder you are all gay EOPs who refuse to learn jp to actually read and understand what you are looking at in visual novels.
>>356126 Where are you right now? I might do a reread some time, reading other stuff at the moment. How'd you feel about chapter 1?
>>355765 Play the DS version.
>>356126 I prefer my visual novels in English though. Japanese is such an ugly language. I even mute all the characters as well. Hopefully we get some dubs in visual novels soon.
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>>356132 I'm just posting a screenie, I've read it multiple times throughout my jp learning but I am learning chinese and have a better grasp of kikokugai then I did when I was a JOP...
>>356220 This. English is the only way I'm able to stand most anime related things. The people that actually learn Japanese for this shit have to be mentally ill and work at Target or some depressing shit.
>>356459 I actually installed a C-J dictionary recently, pretty useful. >learning chinese How's that going? What exactly are the major differences? I've considered it myself.
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>Nitroplus’s Full Metal Daemon Muramasa is coming West from JAST USA http://operationrainfall.com/2021/07/15/nitropluss-full-metal-daemon-muramasa-is-coming-west-from-jast-usa/ >JAST USA has announced they will be releasing Full Metal Daemon Muramasa on August 24, 2021. This is title comes to us from the very famous Nitroplus whose works include Song of Saya, Deus Machina Demonbane and SONICOMI. Like other releases there will be a physical Limited Edition at a later date. J-List will handling the pre-orders and anyone who buys this physical edition will receive a download code to play the game right away. Finally.
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>>365606 Fuck yeah
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>>365606 One of the best visual novels, good shit.
>>365657 Reflection in his glasses looks like a fat naked dr. Eggman from the thunmbnail.
Does Paraphore count as a VN?
>>365988 No, it doesn't have any visuals so it's just an N. The computer thing doesn't count.
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>>365606 BIG DARK ELF TITTIES FINALLY COMING WEST WARD. POST DELF TITTIES! which manga is that?
>>367457 Shame she gets killed, her mother is great too.
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>>367457 Another fine addition to my harem.

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>>367738 >She fucking dies WHAT'S EVEN THE FUCKING POINT?!
>>367457 >which manga is that? Akumetsu. Good read. >>367738 Damn. I'll still read it though.
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>>356220 >>356719 Nice bait, I almost fell for it. >>365606 >Full Metal Daemon Muramasa Niceu. Been waiting for this one. Hopefully they don't butcher the translation. Now all we need is さよならを教えて.
Why is Type-Moon(specifically Nasu) so jewish? Its been 10 years since they first announced the remake and as it currently appears its going to be a refake with only 2/5 routes. You'd think maybe someone would have more appreciation for their first works?
>>367881 Because fuck you for wanting to put your penis into a pure blooded brown elf attempting to make babies.
>>368842 Because Fateshit is where the money is.
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>>368842 SPEAKING OF JEWISHNESS Remake gonfirmed 40GB in install size. About 20 GB are solely dedicated to Ciel's new rewritten anal scenes. OK, Now that there's some attention, what do you guys look for in terms of advancing the visual novel medium? On the Japanese side of things, the market is significantly winding down and on the Western side developers either pigeonhole themselves into pale mimicry or try to make, well, "Western" touches that never take off. Polling since I am vaguely conceptualizing a narrative-focused OELVN in my poor broken mind as a means of spouting my sophomoric observations on sociology. I've locked down some details I want for certain but am trying to zero in on key areas to improve and iterate upon (for a fictional concept that I'm not that attached to anyways). I definitely want it to be a homage to all my favorite titles that I've read over the years while being original enough to strike off on its own. I also want an aim to be to break normalfags' pigeonholing of VNs, which means courting both male and female demographics. Yes, I want my project to be a gateway. As much as I appreciate VNs' abilities to reach out to niches I also feel like there's still unexplored literary territory, at least from the speculative fiction area. Key focuses I've locked down for certain: >Narrative-focused. Sorry. way too many nukige/moege on the market right now and my muse wants to strike off on terrtory OELVNs have yet to venture. >Cast where you follow and switch among select protagonists of differing ages and backgrounds, cynically for cross-demographic appeal and creatively because it's stimulating to write such differing characters and I might as well break the "teenage character" mold if it's an OELVN. One of the viewpoint characters will be the obligatory sociopath female through which I will mouthpiece some of my observations of humanity and will be intended to be a breakout character to sell the game. Because of course normalfags will gravitate around the "cute psycho waifu," per my own views. >Relationship values. Although I do not plan for romance to be the attraction to my title like what is stereotypically thought of for the medium, I do want to introduce the concept to Western gamers divorced from Persona and Tokimeki Memorial as a means of tracking character and plot development. I also want to capture the female social management addicts, the kind that look up guro fiction in their spare time (hence one of the cast being a psychotic female). They will figure into the metatextual themes of the narrative, though I will never break the fourth wall. >A "biopunk" theme. Mainly to stand out amongst the contemporary and urban fantasy classics and primarily to give it a Western horror flavor while still referencing Japanese media (AKIRA, Guyver, etc.). Esper/psychic and chuuni elements optional and not final. Will be a creative risk the title will take. >Themes: the hedonic treadmill and the inverse relationship between empathy and the quantity of human life among others. My prototype is set in the Victorian era (for better or for worse) to encompass a cultural environment that is familiar to Westerners and exotic to Easterners and permits politically incorrect views to be espoused without controversy (the main cast see slavery as a historied and accepted institution, for example). It may change. Key focuses to decide: >For the narrative, what elements are people demanding that are being underserved? As much as the mystery genre comprises some of the most popular and influential titles I feel like just adopting the investigation/point-and-click elements would homogenize the final product. >How much gameplay is there? Easily the largest barrier to VNs' commercial success is the expectation of reading, which is like trading broken glass for Amerimutts, so you need a "gameplay" hook. See previous point for detective gameplay being overwrought. Social management/raising sim mechanics in relation to deciding narrative course may be sufficient but not distinguishable enough. >What improvements can be made for presentation? Textboxes are getting old but they are reliable and English cannot be displayed the same way as Japanese. How far to go with production value while still maintaining the definition of a visual novel as opposed to "one" like a David Cage game? I do wish for scenes in my title to play out like attached once it is set for release. >Finally, how can storytelling be improved for wider appeal? I want to deal with darker themes and stronger dramatic beats. Cutting down on unnecessary padding to save time is one object of the project. I also selected the multiple protagonists route to break away from the galge/charage structure, facilitate the relationship values into the narrative, dispel any delusions of self-inserting, and improve literary merit. But what else can be done?
>>381684 There aren't any sex scenes in the new Tsukihime remake. So that 40gb is pure uncompressed garbage like the nips are famous for
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>>381684 Did this site really fuck up my uploads? Remedying with the intended files. Hopefully they work this time.
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>>381702 One last time, jebus cripes.
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>>381684 >>381702 >40GB for a visual novel on console >a remake that only has two (apparently "improved") routes from the original nonetheless I wonder how the hell they managed to make this huge in size considering even the Grisaia Collection on Switch (3 main titles + the short spin-offs) is like 11gb Even most VNs I have on the system are like around 3-4gb, 5gb at worst
>>381684 What the hell is even in there to make it so big? Would it include the new melty or even the internal dialogues will be voiced?
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I laughed for about 5 minutes non stop when I came to this choice
>>388740 What game?
>>388742 Double Homework
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