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Capeshit Anonymous 11/05/2021 (Fri) 19:40:56 Id: 3d89b9 No. 459003
Which capeshit games do you like? The few that I enjoy are mostly Batman games.
>>459003 I liked the ps1-2 spiderman games. I got the batman games for free, but never got around to playing any yet.
>>459003 As a kid, I used to enjoy playing Spider-Man on PS1 and Separation Anxiety for the Genesis. Later on I really liked Maximum Carnage, the X-Men Legends and Ultimate Alliance games, Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, and Ghost Rider.
Does Wonderful 101 count?
>>459013 Start by release order. The last good one is City, Origins is ok, but Knight is outright garbage.
I played the Xmen games on the Genesis and GameGear, but I don't really care about capeshit so I don't play a lot of superhero games. At least not from any established capeshit franchises.
> Gotham Knights The twist is likely that Batman becomes Owlman.
Didnt think they were making anymore >>459153 i can see it
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Wich are the best Xmen games? I want to play with an actually good superhero team.
>>459201 Rogue looks uncomfortable being elbowed in the pussy.
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>>459003 Assuming Prototype counts as one, that is.
>>459201 None, there's games with x-men but outside some older ones nothing. unless you count the porn game Rogue-like
inFamous games were fun.
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>>459250 Seriusly? They have no good games? I remember playing one with psylocke when i was a little kid but cant even recall the name, if what you say its true then thats a huge missed oportunity. I really miss them. >>459238 Thanks, now i cant unsee that, cunt. >>459244 Man PSX spider-man was great.
>>459153 That's such a shitty twist I can see it happening.
>>459504 If you're interested, Wolverine is getting a new game.
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You know with how successful Arkham asylum has been I am surprised DC didn't just say fuck it and give all of their characters the same treatment. Where the fuck is my Wonder Woman hack and slash you corporate fucks?!
>>459564 Wasn't rocksteady supposed to have had either a Flash game or a Superman game in development beforehand iit got scrapped?
>>459560 How is insomniac nowadays? Think they can pull out a fun vidya?
>>459572 well, Insomniac made that PS4 Spider-Man game. Which many regard as one of Spidey's best video games. And they also made that PS5 Ratchet & Clank game. Perhaps the only good exclusive the PS5's pitiful library has.
Why the fuck do you retards want more censored generic trash? Stick to the old games
>>459581 High definition super babes, of course.
>>459583 >High definition super babes, of course. High definition trannies wearing burkas more like it.
>>459583 One of these days we will get a good beat em up featuring Super babes in spandex and tights, until then we can only dream. >>459571 I know the Flash game, it was made by Bottlerocket entertainment though not rocksteady. It was cancelled after the publisher went out of business. No idea about the superman game though.
>>459504 >Seriusly? They have no good games? It's not that the series doesn't have good games, it's that there are no games where you play as the X-Men as a team. X-Men Origins: Wolverine - Uncaged, X-Men: Legends, the '92 arcade game, and Children of the Atom are still highly regarded.
>>459619 Damn, i hope dotemu gets their hands on it then.
>>459603 >No idea about the superman game though It was called Man of Tomorrow, apparently and it was canned back in 2014. Cheers for the WW pics.
>>459244 I enjoyed Infamous, even if it had a generic good/evil morality system. Never played any of the sequels though.
>>459003 <webm >batman game without batman What's the point?
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>>459623 >and it was canned back in 2014. Not surprising. People today don't really care about Superman anymore. Many find him too invincible and boring. I mean, it says a lot about our society when his most popular games are the ones where he's a homicidal tyrant. (Injustice 1 & 2)
>>459688 To be fair Supes is like that in the 'recent' movies too. all the heroes are in one way or another in that bleak mess
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>>459688 >Many find him too invincible and boring. Most of my knowledge of superman comes from anons and the justice league animated series. I dont think its that hard to come up with enemies that can hurt superman, I remember at one time he mentioned being weak to magic and we already have kryptonite as a weakness. I really dont think thats a good excuse for not having more superman games.
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Arkham Asylum is pretty gud, it's kinda sad that Rocksteady back down on the comics style menu in the sequel.
>>459709 most modern writers hate working on him because it's much easier to make up enemies for someone like batman and other capeshit heroes. I've always been of the opinion one could always do weird space shit like all star superman or just men with screwdriver sci-fi since that's basically what all his powers can be said to work like enginering abilites.
>>459718 Which is a little ironic when Supes near invincibility is a result of DC trying to compete with Captain Marvel until the lawsuit finished.
>>459718 The solution is simple then, make stronger foes. Additionally they write Superman as a christ-like figure, I'd rather have him as a good man who does good things but struggles by being surrounded by a world that he can easily break. Think of it like a god fearing christian but with super powers.
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>>459731 >The solution is simple then, make stronger foes. Except that means Darkseid, Mongol, Cybord Superman, Doomsday, etc., which bores the shit out of everyone, including the writers. Another solution is to simply nerf him after the tutorial, like they do to Samus in Metroid Prime. >"Man! This game is going to be too easy!" >*gets shot with Kryptonite bullet that leaves fragments all over his body* >"FUCK!" Make it open world with different S.T.A.R. Labs and genius hero (like Mr. Terrific) locations all over the world. Each visit, after defeating the local badguy, they're able to use their tech or magic or whatever to remove another shard of green-K and he gets a little more wind back in his sales. By the time he's ready to leave Earth and take on Brainiac or whomever, he's ready to rock. And if any game developers are somehow reading this, you can have the idea for free, just don't fuck it up like usual.
>>459734 >Except that means Darkseid, Mongol, Cybord Superman, Doomsday, etc., which bores the shit out of everyone, including the writers. Then, perhaps, it's time to retire Superman.
>>459734 Well there's always Brainiac and his robot army. It's not like normal demon's rival Dante when he's killing them, same logic should apply to Superman.
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>>459734 >Darkseid, Mongol, Cybord Superman, Doomsday, etc. That's the main problem with Superman and his villains. They're too overpowered and can destroy entire cities in a single fight. We're dealing with godlike beings here. I think if devs want to make a good Superman game without nerfing him, they're gonna have to take notes from Dragon Ball fighting games. Goku and his DBZ villains are overpowered as well, but their arena fighters & 2D fighters did well in capturing that franchise's over-the-top battles. Superman's fighting game could have: >Superman, Supergirl, and Krypto the Superdog. >Darkseid, Mongol, Cyborg Superman, Doomsday, Brainiac, Bizarro, Bizarrogirl, General Zod, Mr Mxyzptlk, and a (Warsuit) Lex Luthor
>>459572 >>459579 None, all the new games they have made are shit. Especially nuRatchet.
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>>459749 >Then, perhaps, it's time to retire Superman. Honestly, Supes comes second to Clark. Clark Kent is a very attractive character, especially in CY+6. He, like Captain America, still embodies hope and belief in an America where the president isn't literally shitting his pants while trying to inhale a child. Also, they've TRIED to nerf Superman. His abilities keep creeping back up to Silver Age levels. Blame it on the readers or blame it on the writers, but whomever is at fault, he's never neutered for long. I believe my idea would work, but they'll never do it.
>>459003 I'm not going to count all the arcade games i've beaten, so i haven't played that many but i've liked all of them. >bamham asylum Pretty much a dozen TAS episodes bundled into one game, gets a little boring towards the end as ivy pretty much slaughters everyone and joker redirects his remaining goons to the psychiatric ward to welcome you, so the enigma puzzles are the only thing left to do, but it's a solid 8/10. >city Story is ass, the last two plot twists come out of nowhere why does strange even care about being ra's successor other than getting to dick talia? and why is clayface suddenly partners with joker? one's an egocentric asshole who couldn't give less of a fuck about anyone but himself and the other is too fucking random to team up with anyone, open world means there are now 300+ enigma trophies scattered all over the city, no villain other than joker gets a lot of focus and there are a LOT of them, there's even one from superman's gallery and the DLC is fucking dogshit, pretty much the only thing it did right was greatly improving the combat system. >knight Somehow the story gets even worse they brought back joker, but at least it pays off at the end with the TAS homage, as batman says the incredibly kino "I AM VENGEANCE, I AM THE NIGHT, I AM BATMAN", there's a lot of focus on the batmobile (you're not even allowed to travel from city to city without it), there are even more fucking enigma trophies (iirc 600, and you need more than half of them to get the true ending), catwoman looks like a tranny (at least ivy's the prettiest she's ever been) and you can't deus vult all over the city as azrael, but again the combat gets vastly improved; all the melee moves from previous games come back (except for the shock gloves, but those are essentially the "focus" upgrade in this game), you can pick up melee weapons, hit downed enemies, get grabbed and break out of it, instakill charging enemies etc, now it's actually a pretty decent beat em up. >origins Pretty much shit except for the DLC campaign, which is a retread of the "heart of ice" episode of TAS. No kevin conroy, so enjoy nathan drake/yuri lowell trying to do a proper batman impression only to end up sounding like he's gargling cocks. >spiderman PS1 Great game, the combat's a little dated but i like how venom is portrayed as the anti-hero he's supposed to be, dude even helps you when carnage shows up and possesses ock. This game i actually played on release date and i never got to try the sequel because the fucking twin towers got BTFO by (((muslims))) and they actually recalled the game to edit them out of it, and my father was never able to find a copy after that. >spooderman 2018 Starts out alright, then goes to shit once MJ and niggerman get introduced to the story (the former nags you all the time and you're forced to play as her a couple times, the later is a spineless faggot AND you're also forced to play as him, funnily enough his father who dies, just like in the comic would have made a better nigger-man as he somehow held his own against a ton of roided up chink thugs and toppled a speeding van to save spooderman from getting ran over), lots of pointless filler between "important" story missions (notably the entire demon subplot ends up being pointless once ock breaks out the sinister four, kraven gets forgotten yet again out of prison) and all the references to other marvel properties are actually references to the movie universe, even the fucking avengers towers is there). There's also a ton of pozz in the DLC; black cat looks like a tranny, silver sable looks like she's nearly 50 years old and MJ unironically says she's gonna find herself in fucking africa. This one i wouldn't recommend unless you like spider-man or can get the game for cheap.
>>459238 >Rogue looks uncomfortable being elbowed in the pussy. Something I never understood about the cartoon series. If Genosha had those collars that could suppress Mutant powers - then after the fall of Genosha, some of those collars had to have made it to the black market, and Xavier would have to have a few anyhow to study. If Rogue wanted to jump Gambit's boner so bad, why couldn't she just wear one of those collars to suppress her power while they were on a date? Did they not work on her? Did Rogue identify as a black woman, and found them racist? Was Professor X out of AAA batteries?
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>>459122 Don't listen to this guy. City, Origins, and Knight are all so similar that I can't imagine how you would like one and not the rest. Knight has the Batmobile and I could see some people not liking it, it's different than the regular gameplay, but I can't imagine anyone thinking it's so bad it ruins the whole game, which is otherwise practically exactly the same as City and Origins but with different level designs. Asylum is different because it's not a GTA style open world and is instead more like Metroid style exploration. The basic gameplay is still the same across all four games though. It's not that different even in Asylum. Aside from those four Batman games, the only other really good ones are the PS1/2 era Spider-Man games. People used to overlook the first three, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro, and Spider-Man (the one based on the movie), but now they seem to get more love, since people aren't as wowed by the open worlds in the later games anymore. That said, of course the open world in Spider-Man 2, and the swinging mechanics that come with it, are great. The actual missions frequently aren't the greatest, but the movement mechanics are just so inherently fun. Ultimate Spider-Man is basically a sequel even though it's not the same continuity, and it's also great. Some people act like they hate Spider-Man 3, but again, I can't imagine why, given how similar it is to Spider-Man 2. I can see not liking it as much, but they're so similar that to say one is great and the other is shit is just absurd. If you like Spider-Man 2, check out Spider-Man 3. After that they did others that seemed different and I never tried, like Spider-Man: Friend or Foe. Then they did Shattered Dimensions, and I never understood the hype. And then when they did an open world Spidey game again, they acted like it was for the first time, and of course it was never as good. At least Spider-Man 3 admitted it was a sequel. I mean maybe Amazing Spider-Man 2 is good, but at that point I didn't give a shit anymore. Also the movie it's based on is shit. And then there's the PS4 Spider-Man game. Did you ever play Spider-Man 2, but wish there were more times when you did walk and talk segments while playing as Mary Jane or a random negro? Well now you can stop being a shitlord playing Spider-Man 2, and can play as the better, black version. Even though you could already play as a better Black Spider-Man, AKA Venom, in a bunch of games. Also you could play as Mary Jane via cheats in Spider-Man (the one based on the movie). That game has amazing cheats including the ability to play as the Goblin, with completely different gameplay and plot, which is way better than the Goblin on-disc DLC in Spider-Man 3, and one of the best arguments for why Spider-Man 3 is bullshit. >>459153 More likely it would just be like Injustice, where it's basically Earth-Three but they don't use the Earth-Three character names. Superman there is basically just Ultraman, but if they called him Ultraman casuals wouldn't say "wow it's evil Superman!" even though that's exactly what it is. Or maybe they just want to pretend it's an original concept even though it's originally from 1963 and has been adapted into other media, including games, dozens of times before. >tl;dr: Batman might become evil but they won't call him Owlman. Also, a cool bit with the Crime Syndicate worlds is that they're not just worlds where good guys are evil, they're worlds where evil always wins. Owlman is not evil Bruce Wayne, he is Thomas Wayne, Jr., Bruce's evil/crazy brother, who also exists in main continuity, originally as a guy called "The Boomerang Killer," but later as owl-themed supervillain Talon. On the Crime Syndicate worlds, Bruce was shot along with his parents, leaving Thomas as the Wayne heir, with no Batman to stop him. Recent versions have also had his version of Alfred be The Outsider. Alfred became a supervillain called The Outsider in the '60s, after he died and a mad scientist brought him back to life but crazy. Bruce and Dick eventually cured him, and vowed to never speak of it again. But since evil always wins on Crime Syndicate worlds, and since there was no Batman to fix things, presumably Alfred just got stuck as The Outsider forever. >>459564 You could basically do a mod of God of War where you swap Kratos with Wonder Woman and it would work well enough. The fact that WB couldn't be bothered to just throw together such a generic game, which would actually be a good way to do a Wonder Woman game, is crazy. >>459636 InFamous 2 makes the first game look like a tech demo. It does a lot more with the morality system. Still nothing really shocking, but it does at least do enough to give you incentive to play the game twice, which is nearly pointless to do in the first game. The city is more fun and interesting in the second game too, in my opinion. There was then a standalone DLC for 2 where Cole becomes a vampire. It's fine for a tiny bit of extra content. InFamous Second Son is a step down from 2 in many ways but still a lot better than 1. It then also has standalone DLC, First Light, which is actually quite a bit of content and pretty cool, as far as standalone DLC goes. >>459688 >>459691 >it says a lot about our society when his most popular games are the ones where he's a homicidal tyrant. About our society, or about the (((people))) who make the media that he appears in? They have been trying very hard and for a very long time to subvert this character, because he is literally the embodiment of Truth, Justice, and The American Way, and they can't allow any of those things to exist. And yes, it was originally Truth, Justice, and Freedom. So isn't it interesting that last month, when they officially changed the slogan, instead of changing it back to Freedom, they changed it to "a better tomorrow?" Comics are usually all about reverence for the past, and to change it to the original version would have went over much more smoothly with fans. It's almost as if they have a problem with freedom. Regular people don't care about Superman anymore because his last movie that people tend to agree was good was 40 years ago (and even that one had behind the scenes bullshit that fucked it up, so the last really really good one was in 1978). That show Lois & Clark was sort of successful in the '90s, but not super memorable. The DCAU cartoons with him were good, but casuals usually overlook cartoons, and these ones were especially overshadowed by Batman cartoons. I loved Smallville, but it was on WB/CW and nobody watches that shit channel, and also the show was like half teen soap opera, and they go out of their way to never call him Superman or show the suit until the last episode, so you could theoretically be a casual and watch every episode and have your mind absolutely blown when at the very end of the last episode he turns into Superman. If casuals were more exposed to good Superman media, they might like him, but nothing that has been promoted enough that casuals are aware of it has actually shown him well and shown why he is a likable and interesting character with interesting stories. >>459709 Superman is as weak to magic as anyone else is. He doesn't have protection against it. He is of course weak to kryptonite. Red Sunlight will make him lose his powers. His most obvious weakness is just guys who are as strong or stronger than him, and there are plenty of those. Zod, Bizarro, Ultraman, Mongul, Darkseid, and hundreds of others. Hell, Martian Manhunter is basically "Superman but better," and I'm pretty sure The Flash could beat Superman in a fight if he ever wanted to. Superman isn't overpowered because he fights threats on his level. Spider-Man would be overpowered if he fought most Batman villains, but he doesn't, he fights Spider-Man villains, who are on his level.
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https://yewtu.be/watch?v=odU1bHaYNDQ Flash would be a cool concept for a video game. Specially with someone competent that would know how to make lighting speed combat cool and flashy. Something out of a platinum game maybe.
>>459866 You do know that Superman was made by jews, right? The entire comics industry has always been full of jews.
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>>459875 >The entire comics industry has always been full of jews. It was better when it was run by Jews.
>>459875 Okay, and?
>>459875 At least in the old days we had jews like Jack Kirby who could make good comics.
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>>459866 superman and American comics used to be so good, shame what the woke cult did to it
>>459882 It means superman was always pozzed, you just liked it because they used to sugarcoat it. They don't have to anymore because the seeds demographic replacement are bearing fruit.
>>459880 It's still run by jews retard.
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>>459891 >They don't have to anymore because the seeds demographic replacement are bearing fruit. What, Librarians and activists who don't buy comics? Well they certainly are fruits of a sort I suppose. The whole fucking industry is imploded and manga has been pissing on their grave.
>>459718 Note that Superman's main enemies are mad scientists. Luthor and Brainiac aren't very strong, but they come up with plans that make Superman's powers moot. People who say Superman is overpowered don't understand how most western capeshit stories operate. Maybe they've seen nothing but stuff like Dragon Ball Z where protagonists beat antagonists by becoming stronger, but that is rare in western capeshit. Western characters usually have relatively consistent powers. It's all about outsmarting each other and the situations. Even Superman's lesser villains are like this. Metallo has a Kryptonite heart so Superman can't get close to him. Parasite can steal his powers if he touches him. How do you beat guys like that? It's about coming up with plans. Even guys like Mongul and Darkseid, they're strong, but that isn't the point. They rarely get into a fistfight, and when they do, they've lost, not because Superman is stronger, but because they're kings and gods and they come up with plans that are far beyond a fistfight, and Superman has to figure out how to embolden their people to fight back against their tyrannical rulers or something like that. Hell, even Luthor, who was given Iron Man-style power armor in the 80s (after 40 years of stories without it), only uses the armor after he's already lost. Do you think fans like Luthor because he is like Iron Man? No, it's because he is intelligent and his stories involve zany schemes. Also, I should mention Mxyzptlk, who is effectively omnipotent, and obviously Superman's powers don't mean a damn thing against him. Yet he is one of Superman's most popular enemies. Hmm... it's almost as if Superman, and western capeshit in general, isn't actually just about strong dudes punching each other to find out who is stronger. Luthor knows Superman is stronger. Superman knows Mxyzptlk is stronger. That's not the point. It's like saying Star Trek is stupid because Q (who by the way is a pretty big ripoff of Mxyzptlk. Or rather, Trellaine, who Q is a ripoff of, is a ripoff of Mxyzptlk) can one-shot everyone else. Also for Superman in particular, there's a whole lot of symbolism and semiotics involved in his story. Darkseid is a god, but of course there is god symbolism related to Superman himself. But then he is also just a man, and so it can be about a man overcoming an evil god. Or there's the neitzchean stuff, with Luthor arguably being a much more accurate ubermensch. But is he really? Perhaps Clark Kent is an ubermensch due to his philosophies on life and not because he can throw cars into the air. And also, when it comes down to it, while I just described most of his most memorable stories, most of his stories overall are just typical but enjoyable sci-fi. He fights mad scientists and aliens and robots, and frequently goes to space or to other dimensions. And people can seemingly enjoy that in other series, so I don't get how casuals don't understand that that's what Superman is about as well. Oh yeah, because they're casuals and they don't pay attention, and because the movies never actually do that. >>459731 >I'd rather have him as a good man who does good things but struggles by being surrounded by a world that he can easily break. Is that not rather Christ-like? The other thing that a lot of good Superman stories do is show that he doesn't feel powerful. He understands he has powers most others do not, but he just wants to do the best he can, and there is always something he can't do that he wishes he could. The 1978 film highlights this very effectively near the beginning, when he can't save his father from a heart attack. He's a regular guy who just wants to help with the talents he has. And that's the real lesson we can all take (and a lot of stories do show effectively). Lois Lane doesn't have super powers, but she can help by using her skills as a reporter to expose truth, which is usually how both she and Superman end up beating guys like Luthor. It's usually Superman's reporter skills that help him against Luthor much more than his heat vision. And the fact that Lois tries to help is why she is worthy of Superman's respect. Meanwhile, Luthor is the world's greatest genius, but instead of helping the world and curing cancer or whatever, which he could easily do, he squanders his gifts on greed and jealousy and revenge, and that's why he's a bad guy. >Think of it like a god fearing christian but with super powers. This aspect was probably something people took for granted for decades. Of course he's a god fearing christian. He's a good American. Of course it doesn't need to be literal, given that Superman has met dozens of gods outside christian mythology, and is friends with some like Wonder Woman and Orion. But also I'm pretty sure he's still canonically methodist. >>459766 >They're too overpowered and can destroy entire cities in a single fight. We're dealing with godlike beings here. How could you say this while posting a picture of a normal bald man whose power is having a lot of money? The problem with making just a Superman fighting game is that Superman stories aren't about fights that last 50 episodes like DBZ. They're about adventures and solving mysteries and such. Also, good luck making Mxyzptlk work well in a fighting game, unless you just say he's only fucking around and deliberately holding back, even when he loses. Also, Superman and western capeshit in general has so many characters that are effectively alt skins of each other in terms of powers that fighting games using them should treat them like alt skins. Injustice shouldn't treat Supergirl or Powergirl like full alternate characters. They're effectively alt skins for Superman. And with that in mind, they should also make alt-skins of other characters, including Ultraman, Superman (Earth-Two), Zod, Superboy (and there are three or four different Superboys worth including), and so on. I want a fighting game that includes all four Flashes, and all four Reverse Flashes, and both the Earth-Two and Earth-Three Johnny Quick, and Jessie Quick. But they all have almost exactly the same powers and should be one moveset with alternate skins and maybe different voices. >>459807 >He, like Captain America, still embodies hope and belief in an America where the president isn't literally shitting his pants while trying to inhale a child. And that's why the people in control keep trying to destroy him, especially in the comics. I don't think Zack Snyder was trying to destroy him, I think Snyder is just a dummy who can't understand capeshit stories written for children. >>459807 >Also, they've TRIED to nerf Superman. His abilities keep creeping back up to Silver Age levels. This. They've tried numerous times, the most famous time being in the late '80s after the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Turns out that people liked Superman going to space and having adventures on other planets and fighting bizarre guys like Mxyzptlk and doing stupid shit like having a dog from his own planet who has the dog-equivalent of Superman powers. All that stuff is part of the fun. >>459831 >why does strange even care about being ra's successor other than getting to dick talia? Strange wants to be Batman. Ra's wants Batman to be his successor. Strange is proving that he is more worthy of being Batman. >and why is clayface suddenly partners with joker? It's the role of a lifetime. Also, fuck Batman. >>459845 >Did Rogue identify as a black woman, and found them racist? Basically this, yes. They're symbols of mutant oppression or whatever, and people encourage Rogue to be proud of her powers, even though they're a disability, and her gloves are just as much a symbol of oppression. But this whole mutant oppression angle has always been full of holes when you actually look at it.
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>>459891 I've read lots of old Superman. Golden Age Superman wasn't very pozzed. Hell, through most of western capeshit's history, the genre was never as pozzed as people would think. Now, that's not to say it could never have politics you might not like, it could happen, but it was never like today. Not even close. It used to be that they could do stories that had messages but also at least did them artfully enough that you could appreciate them to a degree even if you disagreed. X-Men was relatively pozzed from the late '70s and forward, but go actually read Chris Claremont's X-Men. The racism allegory is quite on the nose, but like 90% of stories were about the X-Men going to space and fighting the Shiar Empire or the Hellfire Club (basically the Illuminati) and other stuff that had nothing to do with poz. And even with the poz of saying people not liking mutants is like racism, it also had the point of Magneto being an SJW (though of course they didn't call it that back then) who became everything he claimed to hate. One could also see it as an anti-zionist bit, with Magneto being a jew who uses his jewishness as an excuse for his genocidal efforts. And this is pretty much the most pozzed comic series until the last decade. Another example of poz which is notable is Green Lantern/Green Arrow, from 1970, where there's a famous bit where Green Arrow finds some old black man to lecture Green Lantern for not doing enough to help blacks (despite the fact that Green Lantern's job is to save the whole universe, and blacks probably wouldn't be doing too well if their universe got destroyed), but then right after this bullshit, they go to check in on Green Arrow's sidekick, and find that Arrow's lax attitude has resulted in his sidekick becoming a heroin junkie. Lantern's lack of bullshit could have been useful there. Also, despite Green Arrow obviously being the lefty author avatar, they consistently show him as being a realistic male feminist, as in just a guy who uses his virtue signalling to try to get chicks. And all this has resulted in Green Arrow actually being a much more interesting character than he was before this story arc. Before, he was just Batman with arrows, now, he is an avowed leftist, but that, at least for the first 40 years of stories that dealt with it, was shown as having flaws as well as virtues. It also allowed interesting relationships with characters on the right, such as Green Lantern (which was the whole point of the series), The Flash, and Hawkman. Also the other Green Lanterns, Flashes, and Hawkmen, because there are a bunch of them, and they're all canonically right-wing, and not shown as bad for that or anything. Except Guy Gardner, but he's just kind of a dick, and then they also do a lot of stories that show he's actually right and Batman is just a prick for picking on him. >>459898 This. Nobody reads comics anymore. Since the '90s it was a small audience of autistic whales, and in the early 2010s they were actually on a significant upturn, but then they went SJW and turned away all those new fans as well as all the old ones. The industry was already dying before, but now the sales are so bad it makes the sales of the 2000s look good by comparison.
>>459866 >Spider-Man 2, and the swinging mechanics that come with it, are great. Truly a milestone moment. The new swinging mechanics are more fun and realistic. It's so hard to go back to Spider-Man 1's primitive swinging mechanics. It feels so awkward for Spidey to shoot webs straight up into an empty sky while he swings around the city. Like, what the hell are his webs grabbing onto? Clouds? Spider-Man 2 improved the series now that your webs have to grab onto a building. It just feels right and makes more sense. >because he is literally the embodiment of Truth, Justice, and The American Way, and they can't allow any of those things to exist. Nah. "American patriot" superheroes are still in fashion. Just look at how popular Captain America currently is. I think people just find Superman an impossible character to relate to. This "American" icon wasn't even born in America. He's an alien immigrant with too many godlike powers. Someone who can casually exit the Earth's atmosphere and look down on the world in outer space. A literal god among humans. Trying to relate to him is like trying to relate to Zeus or Odin. By comparison, Captain American does the whole patriot shtick better. For one, he was actually born in the USA. He actually fought for his country in World War 2. He may be unnaturally strong due to steroids, but that's still easier to relate to than the near-invincible christlike alien Superman. Captain is still a human that bleeds if someone like Iron Man beats his ass. Whereas Supes only bleeds if you hit him with the force of a nuclear bomb. Or expose him to glowing green rocks. I think overall, Captain America has replaced Superman as The American superhero.
>>459869 I'd like Modern Sonic gameplay better if it was on The Flash instead of Sonic. At least then I wouldn't be mad about it not being a platformer (in the 3D sections, I mean), since I don't expect The Flash to necessarily be a platformer, while I do expect Sonic to. Also, lose the 2D sections Modern Sonic has, since they wouldn't work as well with Flash. The thing is, for characters like Flash and Superman and most other capeshit characters, their locations are a big part of their series. Metropolis and Central/Keystone City are important to the stories. People would want to see landmarks and such. It's part of the reason the Batman games after Arkham Asylum have a bit of an edge. Arkham Asylum is a great game, but in a game where I'm pretending to be Batman, it's cool to be able to visit Crime Alley or Wayne Enterprises or stately Wayne Manor. And if playing as Superman, I want to be able to visit The Daily Planet, and Lexcorp Tower, and Suicide Slum, and Centennial Park. If playing as The Flash, I want to visit the CCPD HQ, and go to Jay Garrick's house, and maybe actually have the map be two cities which are near each other, which would actually justify the GTA style breaking up of the map into different sections. An open world makes it a lot more immersive, which is a big part of the appeal. The problem though is doing an open world effectively with characters who are that fast and who can fly. It makes worlds feel small when you're too fast. But that's not insurmountable. Worlds can be pretty big now, even if it basically just means buildings are bigger and blocks are more realistically sized. But then what's to stop your characters just leaving the city and running all the way around the earth? Batman can sort of be stopped by water, but Superman and Flash can't. My best idea would be a Superman game where Brainiac bottles the city, and maybe a sequel could have Darkseid send the whole city to Apokolips or something. I guess the only real way to overcome this problem is to use the tech you have to make the best city you can, then come up with a story excuse as to why you can't explore the rest of the world. But make it a good one, because in plenty of Superman games, it really defeats the illusion when you can't fly past a random invisible wall. Superman 64's VR excuse sort of actually works, but it's also stupid for other reasons, and the tech wasn't good enough to make you really feel that Super anyway, even with a decent story excuse. >>459931 >Nah. "American patriot" superheroes are still in fashion. Just look at how popular Captain America currently is. Not in the comics. If Superman had recent movies as good as Captain America, he might be doing as well with the public. But Marvel Comics has spent the last several years saying that Steve Rogers was a Nazi all along, and Falcon is the real Captain America now, and they're doing the same thing in the movies now. They already did a tv show of it, that everyone forgot about immediately because it was SJW trash that did nothing but taint the public perception of the MCU and Marvel in general, squandering a brand they spent decades building. At a certain point, I have to think it's on purpose. These SJWs openly hate these concepts, so if they fail at subverting them and just destroy them instead, I'm sure they're happy enough with that result. >his "American" icon wasn't even born in America. He's an alien immigrant with too many godlike powers. And the immigrant angle can work well when done right. It has been done well sometimes. It's also been done badly, especially by recent SJWs. And of course powers don't stop people relating to other characters. I think it's just a perception issue. Again, Flash is usually more powerful than Superman. Most people can't run so fast they can go back in time. That's pretty damn OP. But we can understand he's a regular guy. It's about how he's written. Superman is written as a christ allegory too often in modern adaptations. Interestingly, in the comics, his own stories tend to show him as a man, and it's when he appears in other characters' stories that he is shown as a god. Doing that angle well in an adaptation would be good. Show that he's a regular guy, but other people see him as a god, and he has to cope with that in a responsible way, but coping with it at all is difficult, because he just sees himself as some guy who happens to be able to run fast and jump high. He feels normal and thinks of himself as normal, even though others do not. Superman just hasn't been written well in an adaptation since Smallville. >Someone who can casually exit the Earth's atmosphere and look down on the world in outer space. A literal god among humans. Trying to relate to him is like trying to relate to Zeus or Odin. Or Thor, who had three relatively successful movies in the last decade, plus a bunch of appearances in even more successful movies. Is the difference really just that they were born with powers rather than making them out of technology or magic spells? I get that a lot of people do say they like Batman because "he doesn't have powers," but from an actual storytelling point of view, that really doesn't end up changing things much. I think it's about perception before they actually view the story, more than it is about the story itself. And a good story could change that perception, if they viewed it. >I think overall, Captain America has replaced Superman as The American superhero. I'd have to agree. But a large part of this is due to DC's mismanagement, some of it accidental, and some of it deliberate.
>>459891 >It means superman was always pozzed How so? What is it about Superman's character and stories that makes it unreadable or enjoyable? >>459911 >Do you think fans like Luthor because he is like Iron Man? No, it's because he is intelligent and his stories involve zany schemes. <Like his presidential campaign in the cartoon? >This aspect was probably something people took for granted for decades. Of course he's a god fearing christian. He's a good American. Of course it doesn't need to be literal, given that Superman has met dozens of gods outside christian mythology, and is friends with some like Wonder Woman and Orion. But also I'm pretty sure he's still canonically methodist. You bring up another good point that, in some ways, actually deepens Supe's character. In that, despite all the power he has, there are still things in his life that he cannot prevent; and the cherry on top is that there is always going to be a higher-power that he cannot fight at the end of the day. >Also, Superman and western capeshit in general has so many characters that are effectively alt skins of each other in terms of powers that fighting games using them should treat them like alt skins. Injustice shouldn't treat Supergirl or Powergirl like full alternate characters. They're effectively alt skins for Superman. And with that in mind, they should also make alt-skins of other characters, including Ultraman, Superman (Earth-Two), Zod, Superboy (and there are three or four different Superboys worth including), and so on. I want a fighting game that includes all four Flashes, and all four Reverse Flashes, and both the Earth-Two and Earth-Three Johnny Quick, and Jessie Quick. But they all have almost exactly the same powers and should be one moveset with alternate skins and maybe different voices. Doesn't that kind of show that depicting the "modern" versions of the characters in fighting games is almost futile, and that it would be best to refer to their original characters (Like how Supe's didn't originally fly until the radio program several years after his debut)? >>459912 >One could also see it as an anti-zionist bit, with Magneto being a jew who uses his jewishness as an excuse for his genocidal efforts. IIRC, wasn't Magneto retconned into being a Kike in the 90's? >>459931 >Just look at how popular Captain America currently is. He isn't actually that popular of a character from what I know. Not sure if that's because the films gave him a shitty portrayal, but there's nothing interesting about him. >Or Thor, who had three relatively successful movies in the last decade, plus a bunch of appearances in even more successful movies. Is the difference really just that they were born with powers rather than making them out of technology or magic spells? Thor, in the first film, was a spoiled brat who didn't care about his responsibilities as being a god, which effected everything afterwards. You can ignore nearly everything in the MCU after Age of Ultron, though, because it became irredeemable trash at that point.
>captain America YOU'VE GOTTA DO BETTER SENATOR THEY'LL NEVER LET A BLACKMAN BE CAPTAIN AMERICA AND NO SELF RESPECTING BLACK MAN WOULD WANT TO BE CAPTAIN AMERICA HAVE YOU FOUGHT FOR SOMETHING GREATER THAN YOURSELF, LITERAL WW2 VETERAN?
So here's a question I've been mulling over, what power level of superhero do you prefer for a vidya? Low powered, practically super soldier commando/batman tier? Mid powered, guy in a hi-tech suit? High powered, superman/green lantern/etc tier? Punisher tier vigilante?
>>459717 The Punisher isn't really capeshit except by technicality. Happy someone remembered the 2005 game, anyway.
I don't understand the hate for Arkham Origins. The VO was a good replacement, gameplay was fun, and it gives off cozy Christmas vibes. It's not as good as Asylum but not any worse then City.
>>461780 Personally I thought City, Origins and Knight were interchangeable. I actually lightly enjoyed most of those games, the only really egregiously bad things I can remember about them are some really boring(mostly the overly scripted ones, like Deathstroke or Freeze) bossfights and the riddler trophies because my bullshit compels me to 100% games I play.
>>459122 Knight is great. Fuck you.
>>461764 Depends on what The Punisher is doing. When he is trying to kill Spider-Man and Spider-Man related supervillains, which is how he was introduced, then he's capeshit. When he's just a regular knockoff of Death Wish who isn't hunting superheroes, then sure, he isn't quite capeshit. Unless you consider Death Wish to be a superhero movie, in which case it's the best superhero movie ever.
>>462051 Debatable. It has great music, it's pretty and it's the most refined the gameplay has gotten, but it also has >The most boring, most scripted bossfights. Firefly, Deathstroke in the tank, that stupid drill shit and I forgot what else was a boss in the game. >A complete and utter waste of an interesting setup >The most limp payoffs for a lot of villains and plot points. Hush, Azrael, Deacon Blackface or whatever he's called, that corrupt firefighter who I can't even remember what he did, Penguin, and I don't even remember if Two Face was in Knight and what he even did if he was. The "not joker" breakout halfway through the plot. Etc. >The batmobile being shoved into the player's every orifice, going from racetracks to puzzle sections to shitty stealth bosses to mediocre combat sections I'd love someone to make a standalone game of those sections and expand on the mechanics. It's a neat base but having everything be one shot if you have a mouse and keyboard and any amount of decent aiming ability is boring as fuck. >An assload of filler. Riddler trophies aside, there's all the repeat shit with the batmobile like chasing APCs or destroying those drill bombs, the "go waste time" quest interruptions like the Riddler asking you to go to his catwoman rape shack every certain increment of the riddler progress bar so you can fight the same robots again and then use keys to unlock catwoman's bomb choker instead of just shoving your massive batcock in her mouth and snapping it that way, she clearly wants it considering how the second Catwoman is free she instantly suggests she and bats find a hotel and fuck the night away >The turbo jewry that is charging money under the pretense that you get secondary campaigns where you get to play new characters with new playstyles and instead you get literally 7 minutes of gameplay for each and that's it, not even letting you switch characters in the main campaign like with Catwoman in City genuinely the first time I felt robbed by a game I pirated It could have been far better. I don't know it feels like they've rushed loads of it and were probably getting sick of the franchise.
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>>487725 I think I played like 2 or 3 matches of that game and wasn't very impressed. Why did you like that game so much?
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>>459201 >psylocke Fuck I miss when comics made lewd costumes. There's no way this wasn't designed for nutting. Wasn't there a storyline where she give cyclops yellow fever coming out of the shower or pool?
>>487725 Me too.
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So Monolith's making a Wonder Woman game(no gameplay because of course). Also while looking up that Rocksteady Suicide Squad game I came across this and thought it was amusing.
>>489366 I wont say anything about the game until I see gameplay. I am happy that monolith is out of the LoTR mines though.
>>489371 Weren't they also making that Gollum game? Also I really worry on which Wonder Woman they'll be basing it off. If it's the jew-rat they have for the snyder live action movies I'm going to be fucking pissed.
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>>489366 >game about "killing the Justice League" >it's not about Batman being forced to carry out his contingency plans against the rest of the League (or playing as a villain who's stolen Batman's contingency plans) what a wasted opportunity
>>489503 What's a wasted oppurtunity is shoehorning the suicide squad as this edgy Justice League counterpart instead of a literal suicide squad doing whacky shit against low to medium power leveled individuals. Because I can totally buy Harley Quinn and Deadshot being the only people the US government can find to take on Superman and other cosmic level threats if need be. Instead of them being used as a vehicle to show off the lesser known DC heroes and rogues gallery.
>>489366 >went from doing great games like Blood, NOLF, Fear, and Claw to fucking licensed trash so sad
>>489366 >Rocksteady Suicide Squad game I'm frankly burnt out on anything related to Suicide Squad (overrated Harley Quinn shilling) and Injustice (muh evil Justice League), and this game happens to be both.
>>489574 Wasn't there a supposed injustice 3 starring Batfag who Laughs too?>>489574
>>489574 What bugs me is the comics have several teams that are just Evil Justice League. If the Injustice Society, or Injustice League, or Secret Society of Supervillains all aren't good enough, then there is the Crime Syndicate, which is literally just the Justice League from the backwards universe where they are evil. But no, we can't do cool stuff like that. Casuals might not be able to comprehend that in the backwards universe Batman is called Owlman.
>>459003 The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction and Spiderman 2. The only Batman game I've played is Arkham City and I thought it was ok.
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Freedom Force is the best vidya-original capeshit (not counting sentai inspired stuff). It's got my nigga Microwave. >>489503 The Tower of Babel plans were retarded anyway. The story only works as Batwank and ignore that every other member of the Justice League isn't a mentally retarded punching bag.
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Here's a question anons, do you prefer playing big breasted superheroine milfs or playing a super hero for whom the sexy supervillains lust over?
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>>490371 Batman
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>>490371 Is it a porn game? in any other game I think I would prefer the main character to be a big titty super heroine. If its porn though I would much rather have super insert man as the protag fucking everyone else.
>>490371 Sexy super milf that sexy super villains lust over.
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>>490423 That sounds suspiciously like yuri. I'm all for it, spiderwoman needing to escape the lewd clutches of she venom and the all female sexy symbiote six before they snu snu her
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>>490426 you want to fuck venom? I am fairly sure i have the webm of the second pic but I cant find it.
>>489913 They also relied on extreme luck, like hitting Superman with Red Kryptonite and hoping its random effect would make him beatable and not just make him more powerful or turn him into a giant ant or something.
>>490479 >you want to fuck venom you don't?
>>490479 I swear to god I had the webm from that film saved but I can't find it anywhere
>>490479 >you want to fuck venom? Only if Venom is bonded to any or all of the 4 members of Power Pack.
>>490572 >any or all of the 4 members of Power Pack. Faggot.
>>490596 Because it's not shooting at the inside of his head. However, one could argue he could burn his own eyelids if he turned on heat vision and closed his eyes. So yeah that would be stupid. Actually, heat vision is just concentrated xray vision, so it's all about how much he focuses the beams. If he focuses on a small enough spot it can get super hot. He can't do that with his eyes closed because each eye would be hitting a different eyelid. So nevermind. It does make sense after all.
>>490596 The thing is, I want to say in the comic it was more brutal because he got Captain Marvel while he was Billy Batson, but I'm pretty sure for the game they didn't want to ESRB to see Superman killing a kid (He still does, because Captain Marvel is still a 14 year old boy inside, but its less obvious.) >>490371 Speaking of Billy, something like Captain Marvel could be the perfect compromise. In battle he's an adult muscle man who all the villainesses lust over, but outside of battle his various ara allies are the only ones who know the secret of him actually being a shota.
>>490479 >female getting venom symbiote >not forcing tits and vaginas all over her body
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Wonder Woman game will be an open world game. It will also play like Shadow of Mordor, because it using the same Nemesis System.
>>491029 >Running around as wonder woman "dominating" other amazons so that they can join your harem army Fuck yeah! It won't actually be like that.
>>491029 >>491029 Wat? That doesn't look like wonder woman. Why is they only using nemesis system in capeshit game?
>>491044 >Why is they only using nemesis system in capeshit game? Something, something, the lasso of truth shall compel you to something something.
>>491044 The reason why they're using the nemesis system in this case is because the devs are Monolith whom are a subsidiary of WB Interactive Entertainment. I think how this game probably came to be makes the most sense if you look at it backwards. Let's assume that this game's development started because WB Interactive Entertainment wanted their subsidiary Monolith to make something. WB's biggest IPs that they definitely own video game rights to are Bugs Bunny (and assorted Merry Melodies characters) and DC capeshit. They appear to have the rights to Harry Potter at the moment, but are already making a Harry Potter game. They also recently had rights to LotR (hence the Shadows of Mordor games), but considering that the Gollum game in development is not by WBIE, it's probable that the license is elsewhere right now. Cartoony stuff like Bugs Bunny is a poor fit for the nemesis system, so they'd probably opt for something more actiony. Harry Potter is probably a pretty tightly protected IP and is not particularly actiony, so it would be a poor fit for a Shadows of Mordor style game. Remaining candidates would be making something DC based or perhaps doing some kind of a Mortal Kombat spinoff. Considering the cape craze, the former is more marketable than the latter. The next challenge comes in picking where to do a Nemesis style system. To run through major DC superheroes: >Superman Poor fit. It's conceivable to have him fighting armies of parademons or something, but Superman isn't the type to mutilate even monstrous, non-human opponents. Open worlds are also a challenge for Superman as his ability to fly combined with his super speed make invisible walls hard to justify. >Batman Too similar to the Arkham games. The nemesis system is easier to justify with Batman, but he's already got a veritable army of memorable rogues, so making generic enemies memorable is not going to add much in his case. >Flash See Superman minus comments on flight >Aquaman Too heavy on the Z-axis for a 3D game to work well and hard to justify placing any limits on the scope of the world because the Ocean is so open and vast. I'd say he has potential as he's a relatively brutality-friendly superhero and he does face some enemies like the Trench who are open to such modification, but I don't think he's the best candidate. >Green Lantern See Aquaman but replace the Ocean with space sectors and add that their powerset is also so vast that it's hard to "get right" in a game. >Green Arrow See Batman with slightly less concern for Arkham comparisons and a weaker argument towards the villains being memorable. >Teen Titans/Suicide Squad/Justice League Teams involve too many powers to be easy to work on. The heroic teams also have the problem that Superman has regarding it being uncharacteristic of most of the characters. >Shazam See Superman So that more or less leaves Wonder Woman as the best available option. She has flight, but it's less vital to her in most settings, so they could just run with it being actually use of the invisible jet or whatever. She's open to brutality, she's got a potentially vast array of powers and weapons (that isn't too vast), she can be put in areas with natural boundaries (Themyscira or she could go somewhere mythological like the underworld). It's not really that a Shadows of Mordor kind of game is what you would want if you were thinking "what kind of game should we give Wonder Woman?". It's that Wonder Woman is a fitting game if you're thinking "What should we (WBIE) make the Shadows of Mordor guys do now?"
>>491201 >Let's assume that this game's development started because WB Interactive Entertainment wanted their subsidiary Monolith to make something. WB's biggest IPs that they definitely own video game rights to are Bugs Bunny (and assorted Merry Melodies characters) and DC capeshit. You're forgetting that DC also owns Midway and Traveler's Tales, and all of their properties.
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>>491037 >tfw no Wonder Loli of the Wild game.
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>>491244 WW is the inferior Amazoness
>>491244 god I want to fuck that horse
>>491203 Nobody cares about almost anything Midway made anymore except for Mortal Kombat. And Traveler's Tales has always been known for licensed games. I don't think anyone is clamoring for some sort of Puggsy revival. A Wonder Woman game practically makes itself. There are already plenty of games with characters with very similar powers, in settings similar to the ones Wonder Woman stories frequently take place in. What's really surprising is that they haven't tried to do one earlier.
>>491201 My brain malfunctioned when I wrote this post, every instance of Z-axis, I mean the Y-axis. It's vertical movement that is often a problem in 3D games that allow for it and don't otherwise impose limits (i.e. putting the game on-rails). Also, this is off-topic, but I actually think a Loony Tunes game using the nemesis system could be hilarious. Imagine punching Marvin the Martian away with a cartoon boxing glove and sending him into the sky only to see him come back with a cartoon black eye a couple hours later and announcing, "You have made me very angry!" then trotting towards you with a ray gun drawn.
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>>491244 Actually I had a far different idea regarding dominating amazons. Big barda vidya when
>>459122 >The last good one is City, Origins is ok, but Knight is outright garbage. THIS >>462051 >Knight is great. Fuck you. You have shit taste. The only good thing about Knight is graphics, that's it. This anon>>463970 is right Also, every villain in the previous game had it's dedicated boss fight, in Knight, it was always beat some generic enemies and once you are done, the boss is arrested. It was the most disappointing way to end the trilogy.
>>491693 City, Origins, and Knight are all so similar that it's insane to say one is good but another is bad. You're like those retards that say Mega Man 4 is great but Mega Man 5 is shit. Nigga, they're practically the same game. I can get not liking one as much, but it's close enough that calling it bad is just nuts.
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>>491736 >"calling Knight bad is nuts" >using mega man as an argument >>>/cuckchan/
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>>491745 >deleting your own post because you fucked it up the first time >still calling someone else a retard >thinking Origins and Knight aren't basically expansion packs for City >saying the Mega Man comparison is bad without explaining why
>>491736 Knight's gameplay is similar to other two, but not the content. The majority of knight's content felt either phoned in or hammered out of shape to fit the batmobile. And don't get me wrong the batmobile is fun for what it is, but it cannot carry the majority of the game and tying so much into it was a terrible idea.
>>491747 I suppose you'd prefer he waste posts making corrections?
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>>491330 For you anon.
It bothers me how the wonder woman game will probably just play like Bamham because we can't have fun melee combat. Wonder Woman would definitely make for a great brawler type game. Also magical realm tier question, but has it ever happened that a non-amazon woman washed up on Themyscira? What would happen in that case, would they take her back to her civilization, keep her around and 'train' her to become an amazon, or keep her around as a sex slave for the amazons?
>>493283 I could have sworn there was a Wonder Woman villain from one of the Justice League cartoons that was a human girl raised by the Amazons who grew up to despise men and want to wipe them out.
>>493927 That was an episode, only for the bomb to be dropped on her that the only reason why she happened upon the island was because a man saved her from a sinking ship just before he died, and her response was that the guy was guilty by original sin (In true feminist form).
>>491747 >as if there's anything bad with deleting your own post if you noticed that you fucked up >Origins and Knight are "expansion packs" for city >If you think the sequel of this franchise is bad you must think that also the sequel of another completely different franchise must be bad too Imagine being this stupid and thinking that retarded shit is an argument. >>>/cuckchan/
>>494758 are you just going around to random threads calling random people cuckchanners
>>459875 >You do know that Superman was made by jews, right? >>459890 >superman and American comics used to be so good, shame what the woke cult did to it >>459880 >>459882 >>459885 >At least in the old days we had jews like Jack Kirby who could make good comics. The difference is that jews back then still had making shekels as priority rather than globohomo propaganda, that's why movies and comics were better back then, certainly not because those kikes were "good" or anything.
>>494979 >jews back then still had making shekels as priority >not because those kikes were "good" <Good media makes money <Kikes made good media because they wanted to make money <But making good comics wasn't a part of the kikes plan <Meaning that the kikes never wanted to make money <
>>494987 >Good media makes money Not only good media makes money, though, just like not only good food makes money. In setting out to make money, they made media that, first of all, made money. If it was good and it made money, they kept it. If it was bad and it made money, they kept it. The only thing that was important was making money (and not violating the Hays code, I guess).
>>494987 When the market is mostly white, the tastes of the audience skew towards objective quality in a mass-market sense - which is to say that things that only appeal to people with a particular intellectual interest in the medium (i.e. comics that sacrifice legibility for experimentation) won't appeal to that market regardless of objective quality, but the correlation of quality to success will generally be higher with predominantly White audiences. Jew corporations like predictable sales even while their whole industry slides into obscurity, particularly because the Big 2 are run at a loss by their parent corporations as an IP development farm for ideas to throw into movies. If the threshold for success lowers, it's easier to justify claiming even failed experiments as successes for when the movie execs want to implement something from the comics into their movies. This drastically increases the chance that you get shitty woke bullshit with a "created by" credit for some idiot who makes diversity comics. So the historical shift between comics being made by companies which could fail for business functions to subsidiaries of mega corps used to develop IPs for films has dramatically shifted the concerns of the comics kikes. Their former White audience demanded things like a continuity that makes sense, decent art, characters that develop over the course of decades, etc. which comics businesses have always felt to be impediments to success, but put up with because that was their market. Now that they stay in print no matter what, these companies view their White audiences the way dogs view fleas, they want them gone. To get them gone, they've been poisoning the product by making it the most extreme globohomo propaganda they can. They also hope that will attract a non-White replacement audience that will like that shit better, be less critical of the product, and make more and more of their shit ideas look like successes. Film execs already favor globohomo shit, so selling them on Spider-man but black (even if Miles Morales never moved as many issues or had any half-decent storylines, and he's one of the most successful examples) or Thor but a woman is like selling a cat on catnip, especially considering film already has a browner, dumber, and less demanding audience than comics.
>>495796 But anon, the 2nd biggest possible market, spics, hate the woke products with a passion, so who the fuck does that leave?
>>495797 I'm not sure that's the case besides the fact that they actually like spic stereotypes that weren't designed to offend such as Speedy Gonzales. I don't know how they'd feel about something more along the lines of Mike Matei's Loco Bandito, but maybe they'd be consistent on that. In any case, even assuming you're right, it would leave niggers, mudslimes, and Asians. Niggers pretty much are their ideal demo as they are easily entertained by any form of violence and reason is alien to their mind. The only problem with them as a mass audience is they account for fewer readers than Whites and more theft (this isn't a problem for the publisher anyway because it's the store that ends up holding the loss). Mudslimes are mostly sought for the purposes of D&Cing the most direct racial enemy of the state of Israel against their cousins, but they make it hard to propagandize to the other groups because they innately have higher J-literacy so when they get offended they might speak the truth. That can be spun around as an advantage because it's an opportunity for the media to converge and deliver a struggle session about how oppressed and put-upon the richest and most influential ethnic group in America is, but they'd rather avoid that situation. Asians are a bit closer to whites in terms of being demanding, but some varieties, such as the soy-fed streetshitter omegamale can be obligate consumers with no prospects for a social life that they can milk indefinitely. Regardless, for the Big 2, profit isn't the actual goal, it's just appearance of relative success. Getting any chunk of their market replaced with an audience that is less elastic to quality and sticks around is a win for them.
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>>495796 >They also hope that will attract a non-White replacement audience that will like that shit better, be less critical of the product, and make more and more of their shit ideas look like successes. Film execs already favor globohomo shit, so selling them on Spider-man but black (even if Miles Morales never moved as many issues or had any half-decent storylines, and he's one of the most successful examples) or Thor but a woman is like selling a cat on catnip, especially considering film already has a browner, dumber, and less demanding audience than comics. Funny thing is that I've been hearing about a LOT of minorities that HATE how progressive modern media is. >>495806 >In any case, even assuming you're right, it would leave niggers, They hate the products, so they're gone. I know because of actually talking to people IRL. Even the stereotype of niggers in America is that their favorite media is anime. >mudslimes, Media of any kind is considered non-Halal, so they're off the table, too. Until Islam goes through it's own cultural revolution because even sandniggers despise how authoritarian other sandniggers are. >and Asians <Vid related
>>492151 >>494758 The problem isn't deleting the post, it's calling someone else a retard while being a retard yourself, retard. Also, you can't accuse someone of not making an argument when the post it was replying to was not making an argument. And the Mega Man comparison is because they're both series where the sequels are very similar, you literal autistic retard. Note that Asylum was left out, because it actually is somewhat different. >>493283 >>493927 >>493935 Also note that in the comics there is a long history of any woman being welcome there, with characters like Supergirl living there sometimes. Also Wonder Girl usually isn't born an amazon, but she is sometimes, because her continuity is so fucked that the fact that it's fucked is a plot point. But her most classic origin is that she is an orphan that Wonder Woman rescued, and then the Amazons gave her powers. Men are still executed though. And in 2011 feminists got mad when DC did a story where it was explained that the mystical immortality stuff was all a myth and actually they reproduce by raping and killing sailors, and then they sacrifice any males that are born to Hephaestus, who turns out to be much nicer than the Amazons. I'm unsure if DC retconned this away yet but I bet they did. I stopped reading after Brian Azzarello, the guy who did that story left the series. Also now he's a massive feminist faggot, but his Wonder Woman run was good, and he used to do a lot of other good stuff before he was brainwashed. >>495806 >Getting any chunk of their market replaced with an audience that is less elastic to quality and sticks around is a win for them. This is accurate to their thought process. The problem is that it doesn't happen. But SJWs hated superheroes for decades and openly were writing articles about it ten years ago. Now that they've taken over the industry, destroying the industry is also a win for them. If they can't subvert it, they'll destroy it. They'll get another job or continue living off trust funds or literal prostitution. Destroying the industry is a win for them too, even if they lose their shitty job in the process. And since you mention asians, it's worth noting that SJWs efforts to use them as pawns keep failing, because the success of asians in the west proves all SJW talking points wrong, and SJWs get mad about that, so they keep saying that asians are honorary aryans, so occasional attempts to turn around and backpedal on that never work.

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>>495987 >Supergirl Stop reminding about her, I'll never forgive the faggots who destroyed her, especially Tom King. And she lived there because WW was asshurt because there was a girl stronger than her and tried to play Prof X with Clark and Bruce of all people. >Cass R.I.P. she's been buttfucked worse than any female that Sean "Zeus" Connery seduced back in ancient greece, animals included. >Azzarello is now a feminist How the fuck is it that anyone who writes a WW story gets out of it as a faggot except for Perez? Ruca became a faggot, now Azzarello is a massive nigger...just how cursed is the character of Wondy? >And since you mention asians, it's worth noting that SJWs efforts to use them as pawns keep failing, because the success of asians in the west proves all SJW talking points wrong, and SJWs get mad about that, so they keep saying that asians are honorary aryans, so occasional attempts to turn around and backpedal on that never work. Remember to always spread these.
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>>496007 >Cass She's been messed up, but not nearly as bad as Donna Troy, the Wonder Girl I was intending to mention, who is so fucked up that practically every story about her in the last 35 years is about how fucked up her continuity is. But yes, Cass has been messed up too. Then again, Wonder Girl only exists as a separate character because of a mistake, when the guy who invented the Teen Titans didn't realize that Wonder Girl was not a separate character, but just Wonder Woman time traveling to interact with her own past self. So the whole concept was fucked from the start. Then again, There was a good 15 year period where Supergirl was a psychic goo monster clone of Lana Lang from another dimension who eventually turned into an angel. So maybe she is almost as fucked up. But at least she isn't Superboy. At least when Supergirl turned gay, it was only temporary because of Pink Kryptonite, and done for comedy.
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>>492625 >click on pic 2, hoping against hope it's not awful >it's awful
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>>493283 I want to know how fucking old Wonder Woman is DC never states it exactly. She is 23 in god years apparently. Thats fucking kind of vague but to make matters worse she was around when Conan was spreading the good word of Crom. So thats at least over 10000 years old. So that brings me to my main question. Why is she such a fucking idiot?
>>496276 How old is anyone in comics? I've heard it explained that the Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent in the current comics aren't the same ones that debuted in the 30's. There's several different Flashes and Green Lanterns. We know Diana had to be around in World War 2 to meet Steve Trevor as part of her backstory. Character ages are something only anime and Marvel cares about. >Why is she such a fucking idiot. Because she's strayed from her path of being a way for one man to explore his S&M Femdom fetish in the 1940's
>>491244 >>492625 Why are TOR users like this >>496276 >Why is she such a fucking idiot? Bad comic writing, or more often different writers with different characterization and morals in mind. That's usually the answer to most questions about a character's questionable actions.
>>496276 Daredevil, and Batman are the only two interesting heroes. Spiderman maybe once was. As a child into comics, I thought Wonder Woman was for girls and SHE-HULK for lesbians, but it turns out nobody really likes them until some critic tells them to or they catch a lucky attraction to a pervert. So be it, none of this matters. Comics set in the future or another completely different universe is really all that would interest me. The earth is ruined, let's all not kid ourselves.
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>>496276 Wonder Woman continuity is fucked because in 1986 the Anti-Monitor shot her with eye lasers that regressed her personal timeline so she de-aged back into a ball of clay and never existed until twenty-something years ago (as of the Crisis on Infinite Earths) and she only became a superhero for the first time after the Anti-Monitor's defeat. So now she joined the Justice League after this, when they were already around for over a decade, while before The Anti-Monitor fucked things up she was a founding member. All the Justice League stories she participated in still happened but now instead of Wonder Woman being there it was Black Canary (the second one, not her mom who was in the Justice Society). Then 20 years later Superboy-Prime punched reality so hard he cracked it and Wonder Woman became a founding member of the Justice League again instead of Black Canary II, but Black Canary II did still join at some point. And most of the old Wonder Woman stories from before the Anti-Monitor killed her happened again, except for the part where she died/got turned back into a ball of clay that never existed before. Anyway with all the time hijinks I think few writers care enough to firmly establish if she was only formed twenty-something years before the present, or if she was around for thousands of years and only stopped aging in her early 20s and then thousands of years later became Wonder Woman. Also note that when she was young, she time traveled all the time and interacted with her own future and past selves as Wonder Tot and Wonder Girl. Another thing is that time Doctor Manhattan stole 15 years of time from the DCU, so basically everyone got 15 years younger but by and large the same things still happened. It's not that everyone went 15 years back in time, they stayed in the present, but a 20 year period since Superman's first appearance (in-universe) got compressed into five years. Then Superman got ten years back eventually. And then I'm still a couple years behind so I'm not sure if they ever got those last five years back. Anyway, all that time fuckery causes additional problems especially with characters who already have chronology problems, like Wonder Woman. >>496280 >I've heard it explained that the Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent in the current comics aren't the same ones that debuted in the 30's. There's several different Flashes and Green Lanterns. Technically the world of Golden Age comics, until about 1956, is mostly an alternate universe called Earth-Two. Technically the Superman and Batman who appeared in comics until the mid-1950s are different people. However, the point at which the series switched to being about Earth-One Superman and Batman (and Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, and Aquaman) is vague. Because the entire concept of Earth-Two is a retcon to explain how The Flash, who was rebooted into an entirely different character almost ten years after his series was originally cancelled, could team up with the old (cancelled) version of The Flash. So The Flash from Golden Age Earth-Two comics is Jay Garrick. He got cancelled and ten years later they rebooted The Flash as a whole new guy called Barry Allen. But 1950s neckbeards wanted the old Flash back. So they said he lived on an alternate universe called Earth-Two, and Barry could travel there and they could team up. But wait, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, and Aquaman interacted with Earth-Two characters like Jay Garrick, but also interacted with Earth-One characters like Barry Allen. Well naturally the only explanation is that there were two completely different versions of all of those characters, but they were much more similar than the alt versions of the Flash. Their series swapped from being about the Earth-Two characters to being about the Earth-One characters at some unspecified point. For Superman and Batman, the point people say in retrospect is an issue where Superman and Batman team up and act like it's for the first time. But it couldn't be, because they used to be on the Justice Society together. Well that must mean that this Superman and Batman are from Earth-One. This story was a few years before Barry Allen was invented and more years before they came up with the multiverse so he could team up with Jay Garrick. Also, Superboy, Superman when he was a boy, was invented in like 1945, but Superman of Earth-Two was never Superboy, as said in Action Comics #1, so that means Superboy must be Earth-One, even though he was invented like 15 years before the concept of a multiverse. But it helped to smooth out these things that otherwise would have been inconsistencies. Green Arrow and Aquaman are funny cases where they were just given completely different origin stories years after their original ones. Their series were never cancelled or rebooted, they just figured nobody who read the old ones would still be reading the new ones. This inconsistency was explained by saying the new origins were the first time we saw Earth-One versions of those characters. I forget what is retroactively considered the first appearance of Earth-One Wonder Woman, but she is generally actually quite consistent between Earth-One and Earth-Two, aside from one being on the Justice League and the other being on the Justice Society. In fact, Wonder Girl's (an Earth-One character) origin says she was created with Purple Ray, and the editor's note specifies that the Purple Ray was first (and last) used in an issue of Justice Society like 20 years earlier, even though it was another universe and a whole different Wonder Woman and set of Amazons. But that brings me to the point that for those five characters that were never canceled or rebooted, you're basically supposed to figure that all the Earth-Two stories happened to the Earth-One versions as well, since of course there was no point where they rebooted and said past stories don't count. Every issue assumed the previous issue was canon. But then by the '60s they used the multiverse to say that for any contradictions, the newer explanation happened on Earth-One. So the old stuff still happened, except for the stuff that didn't. That's basically how it goes for every other "reboot" to this day. Also, to be clear, the Earth-One versions of those five characters are still the ones around today, but history has changed around them several times, like de-aging them by 15 years when 15 years was stolen from the timeline, then re-aging them by 10 years a couple years later. Notably, Batman has had stories where he fights The Mutants from The Dark Knight Returns, and Carrie Kelley has appeared (though not as Robin), implying that the main timeline has caught up to where The Dark Knight Returns happens (but in an alternate course of events), but due to time fuckery, and presumably things like Lazarus Pits and other forms of magic and science, people are younger. Mostly time fuckery though. >We know Diana had to be around in World War 2 to meet Steve Trevor as part of her backstory. I'm pretty sure that just applies to Golden Age Wonder Woman. For later versions of history, he can just be fighting some other unspecified war. >>496292 But Superman has 2 deep 4 u philosophy stuff going on. Also eh fights aleins and doesn't afraid of anything.
>>496297 > Superman Too big to fail, we he was killed in the 90s for sympathy buys no one cared except the closeted homosexuals and Arabs.
>>496301 He was killed in the '90s for shock value and to buy time so that his wedding in the comics could match up with his wedding that was already planned on the tv show that was airing at the time. They thought Superman's wedding was gonna be an even bigger deal than his death. Of course once they saw how big a deal his death was, they realized they were wrong. They claim they never expected people to think they were actually gonna kill him for real. But once they did, DC took the opportunity to milk similar stories for all they were worth, like with Knightfall having Batman get crippled, and Emerald Twilight having Green Lantern become the most powerful supervillain ever. At least they kind of tried to keep the Green Lantern one, and it took ten years of fan bitching to get that status quo mostly reset. And to be fair, it was better and more popular after it got reset.
>>496304 I stopped collecting when I saw the four different Batman collectible covers for the movie tie in and the jig was up for me. Another hobby ruined by greed and autistic whales being exploited. Baseball cards, video games, the cycle never stops.
>>496310 I never cared about covers very much, and never enough to buy multiple copies just for different covers. That said, even ignoring that, the greed is definitely through the roof. The overreliance on crossovers which ask you to buy tons of different issues of tons of different series to get one story is what did it for me. Piracy is the only way to realistically read entire stories from modern comics, or to realistically find old issues from when stories were actually reasonably published. That said, I do still collect collected editions if I see good deals at used bookstores and stuff. I love those black and white phonebook sized collections they have, because I frequently find used copies for like five dollars, and I'm willing to pay that for a huge chunk of old and mostly good stories which I can read with the comfort of a physical book and enjoy on my shelf to pick up whenever I want or hand to other people. But all that said, my levels of autism never would have been reached without piracy. It's the only way I was able to read enough to even begin to understand things in the collections I eventually bought. And to this day, it's the only way I can find many old stories, or afford many new stories, since many new stories require hundreds of different issues to understand.
>>496314 I have ton of old comics from the 50s, mostly war comics. I will probably go to jail for keeping them one day they way things are going. Daredevil 165 to 300 was a good ride though.
>>459734 >Another solution is to simply nerf him after the tutorial, like they do to Samus in Metroid Prime. >in a fucking SUPERMAN GAME I'm surprised nobody's calling this out for how fucking stupid it is. That's like making a One Punch Man game with a combo system.
>>496813 You just need to come up with a good excuse, and not limit things too much, of course. Don't make the player have normal strength and speed, but maybe you can upgrade it through the course of the game. Maybe you don't start with the more secondary powers like X-Ray Vision, Heat Vision, Super Breath, and Arctic Breath (Heat Vision and Arctic Breath are already just upgrades of X-Ray Vision and Super Breath anyway). But yes, you'd need a good excuse. Maybe it's an origin story and missions take place over years, while developing the powers, or at least the first few missions could do that. Maybe Brainiac has bottled the city and put it under a red sun lamp and you need to one by one take out power stations that are powering the lamp. Maybe, for a mysterious reason the player isn't told at first, you get a new power every time you find some Kryptonite, so your goal is to find pieces of it and it turns out you're actually Ultraman and a bad guy, since modern DC adaptations love evil Superman. Maybe after this first part of the game, you switch to playing as regular Superman. The trick is giving a sense of progression without nerfing things so hard you don't feel like the character. Like the Batman games begin with very few gadgets or moves, but you still have enough to feel like Batman. Of course with Superman things are harder.
>>496950 > The trick is giving a sense of progression without nerfing things so hard you don't feel like the character. Like the Batman games begin with very few gadgets or moves, but you still have enough to feel like Batman. Of course with Superman things are harder. Start the game with ONLY the powers he had back in the 30's and build up from there.
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why did the power girls get deleted?
>>496985 Mark did it, maybe thought they were NSFW? Not sure why he didn't just spoil them though. There any good Capeshit action games with create-a-character coming out? I've tried F2P DCUO and combat was floaty with a hard limit on how many colors your costume could have and various limits on free to play folks that made progression damn near impossible. League of Maidens was shit and had a poor outfit selection. City of Heroes is typical tab target BS.
>>496998 too many images at one time
>>459013 Spiderman (2000) is fucking great and what if mode was perfect for a second playthrough.
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I was Playing the PSP version of Spider-Man 2, The Console version did the majority of it's cutscenes in Engine, so the PSP has a bunch of it's own excusive cutscenes. And right at the end of the game there is this shot where Mary Jane just has Great Cleavage, in motion you get barely a second but it sticks out. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wSIZOb9SLYE


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