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QTDDTOT / General Discussion Baby Board owner 05/24/2020 (Sun) 19:35:56 No. 5
Self-explanatory. Sauce request, random stuff and stuff that does not deserve its own thread should go here.
A disease we all wish we could have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUQX4qknJho
anybody knows where to find that god damn cloth diaper? I have been looking for it for at least ten years and no search has lead me to an actual place where I can find it. I have seen PP, AB source, AB dreams Blair, now Sunny, where the heck are they getting it from!>??!?! https://kemono.party/patreon/user/23722150/post/62840252
>>17085 Nah, I think you underestimate how crippling of a condition it is to be Australian.
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Weird question, but what are the chances that princess-cereal(attached pic) has a penis? I follow her on twitter and a couple months ago someone said they were thinking about bottom surgery and she replied saying she was too. i always thought she was a bio girl.
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>>17272 I always thought she was a girl too. This recent photo makes it look like her body has a pretty feminine shape. However, the fact that she freaks out so hard whenever the question comes up leads me to believe she might have a dick.
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>>17273 Protip: the hands and feet are always a dead giveaway.
>>17273 I bumped into her multiple times at summercap. if she has a dick, she passes very well. she walked around in just a shirt and a little king most of the con. lol
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>>17274 >>17273 >>17278 I'll be honest. She passes well enough and she's into diapers so much that I'd probably go for it anyway.
>>17280 Very much agree with this.
>>17280 >Samus Amiibo >Pokémon memorabilia >Hatsune Miku (a plushie and a figurine) >Bottle of pills (I think) She's trans. The only things missing are a choker, game consoles and LGBTWHATEVER decoration. It would be better if these people simply admitted their situation instead of trying to hide it. I don't mind trans girls if they pass (this one does). I'm more interested in the diapers, but lying and avoiding the topic pisses me off.
>>17288 Yepp Annoys me on Fetlife too. Trans is an option, but they just choose Female
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Something I was just thinking about. Apparently the idea that trans women tend to have a diaper fetish is becoming a pretty well known stereotype in LGBT circles. There's pushback against it but overall it's just kind of becoming part of 'trans culture.' I do feel like modern society is being unreasonable with the forced acceptance of gender dysphoria, which is something that should legitimately be viewed with the same empathy and compassion you would treat any other mental illness, but if diaper fetishism gets more mainstream acceptance because of it, I'm a little more on board.
>>17305 >which is something that should legitimately be viewed with the same empathy and compassion you would treat any other mental illness Bruh, have you seen how other mental illnesses are treated?
>>17305 >Apparently the idea that trans women tend to have a diaper fetish is becoming a pretty well known stereotype in LGBT circles. Various probable explanations for that are given in the tranny thread including physical problems of transition (incontinence and leakage of some sort is a fairly common complication from SRS and certain transition drugs have diuretic effects), mental illness related sexual obsessions (like a lot of us into this fetish it seems), and the rise of AGP and autist trannies already into various other fetishes (comparable to how furries are often into a various other fetishes). >if diaper fetishism gets more mainstream acceptance because of it, I'm a little more on board. I really don't get why people want their weird fetishes to have mainstream acceptance other than to use it as an excuse to be an open pervert, asshole, or exercise control over the behavior of others and try to shame guilt people when they don't like it. That there's plenty of trannies, political whackjobs, and alphabet people in fact doing that is worth noting here. >>17309 Agreed, most people don't like to discuss or understand mental health. It's nothing new and it persists now. Most people just get upset themselves or have little to no ability or desire to actually be helpful when it comes to this sort of things. For most of history having crippling mental or physical illness would get you ostracized, gawked at, or removed. Mental health treatment and professional psychology itself is mostly a joke at best or a threat at worst. Consider that historically professional psychology and mental institutions were used as a way to deal with political dissidents and society's undesirables not just people who genuinely had problems. In some countries that's still a thing, not to mention how political trannies, gender, and sexuality have become. Now we're at a point where people with genuine problems end up homeless or in prison if they act up too much (one of ironies of deinstitutionalization even if that's not entirely to blame) and people are encouraged and praised for permanently altering their bodies while ignoring or downplaying the negative health effects and that the treatment is not as effective as claimed.
>>17305 This was talked about in the trans thread. I recommend you to check it out. What I think is the most probable explanation is childhood trauma. Parents were negligent, abusive or violent. Maybe even molestation by a third party like an aunt/uncle, cousin or a family's close friend. One feeling often reported by those just getting into diapers is security. They feel secure, safe and free of responsibilities. That may indicate they lived in an unstable environment, maybe being a victim of the things previously mentioned. I don't have data about it but in my experience, the vast majority of individuals identifying as homosexuals and transsexuals reported some case of childhood abuse. So I think it's safe to say diapers and transsexualism are close related, both due to bad childhood. I'm including myself in this. Not that I'm trans but something in my own childhood happened for me to enjoy diapers so much. I tried remembering as much as I could, talking to relatives about the past, staring at photos. But I can't pinpoint a main event that lead to my fetish. I think there's some block to it. >>17310 Incontinence side effects of transitioning don't make someone a diaper fetishist. Troons/shemales/trans are nothing new. Now trans + diapers is a recent phenomenon and, like you mentioned, may be related to the rise of AGP (autogynephilic transsexuals). Before that, most mtf trans were HSTS (homosexual transsexuals)
>>17325 It's probably a contributing factor with the other stuff for why trannies have been increasingly associated with ABDL. I don't think the various users that have mentioned it here really mean that it's a sole cause for any tranny that is also into ABDL. Just having incontinence issues isn't going to give someone a diaper fetish, but when combined with the other stuff trannies are known for it makes sense as contributing. If someone is already into fetish stuff or an AGP focusing on seeing themselves as attractive and sexy it's doesn't seem like a stretch for them to start considering diapers in a sexual manner if they actually develop a need for them as well. It probably also helps that a lot of internet AGPs at least seem to focus on cute and little/young girl aesthetic.
>>17325 >Incontinence side effects of transitioning don't make someone a diaper fetishist. No, but having to wear diapers. as an adult, isn't something a lot of people end up doing, and when forced to do so can make you realise maybe you like this, and it goes from there. For example years a go I was on some meds that had some funky side effects. The relevant ones being dry mouth, so I drank more, it acting like a diuretic, so needed to pee a bunch, and finally it knocked me right out when I went to sleep, and I'd be super groggy when waking up. End result was that had a couple accidents, and the doctor gave me some medical diapers to use until things evened out. Thing is, the medical diapers were trash, they either leaked or clumped up, so I looked online and ordered some samples, and found even the cheap ABDL diapers fitted better then the medical ones, so started using them. This introduced me to the scene, which I was willing to get into more as I started to realise that I actually liked wearing diapers. Would I have done so if I wasn't put in the position were I actually needed to wear diapers? Maybe, maybe not, but it was still a factor
>>17041 See if you can find a pair that are lined with terry towl. I have some and they're great. A little bit thicker then the standard plastic ones but much more comfortable. The towl lining helps absorb leaks to a degree, which helps stop them getting out, and because the outer layer is vinyl they are actually quieter then regular plastic pants. Downsides are they're more expensive, but worth it in my mind, and I've only ever seen them in white, though you could die them if you wanted. Oh, and they do tend to get warm in the summer, but most plastric pants do. They great when it's colder though.
>>17310 >I really don't get why people want their weird fetishes to have mainstream acceptance ABDL specifically relies on physical products, for which lack of acceptance hinders the marketability, availability, and production of. Declining levels of private space due to housing prices also don't help.
>>17041 You're not gonna get something quiet out of a plastic pant, however a rubber pant might be exactly what you're looking for https://youtu.be/3-dPLtnwjlg
>>17403 ooh, thats interesting, I'll definitely take a closer look at those!
>>17390 >ABDL specifically relies on physical products, for which lack of acceptance hinders the marketability, availability, and production of. This is already true of any other fetish that involves inanimate objects and not parts of the body or things produced by it. The major difference between ABDL and other object fetishes is that ABDL diapers are expensive and not reusable (unless you're going with cloth which has its own issues). A sex toy or fetish gear can last years and even quality stuff can be considered cheap for something that may never actually need to be replaced in the person's lifetime. But, it's not like we actually have an ABDL diaper shortage due to it being so niche and most people aren't going to be wearing 24/7 unless they're rich. Even cheaper disposable diapers for babies and medical incontinence can cost hundreds or thousands a year. I don't see what the problem is unless you lack an internet connection and absolutely need to be able to go down to a physical store for diapers for some reason or want to be wearing all the time (which is just impractical even if you have the money and people that have actually tried 24/7 have noted the inconvenience of it and that wearing all the time can lower interest because it becomes mundane). Even then medical diapers are cheaper and readily available as they're not specialty, but they are lower quality. It's not something that is going to change any time soon. >Declining levels of private space due to housing prices also don't help. And? This is true for nearly anything directly sexual or even just frowned upon because it's niche or weird. Just vanilla sex and masturbation requires some privacy (unless you're living in some sort of isolated free love community) because people generally don't want to randomly see or hear other people fucking or fapping/schlicking in public and there's reasons beyond that, such as hygiene and avoiding distracting or being disruptive to others with the activity. The same two things apply to ABDL too. Try to think of it as normal people see it. Normal people generally don't want to be next to someone who just shit or pissed themselves. It's bodily waste and most people are naturally disgusted by anything to do with bodily waste and decay like it or not. People only tolerate it with medical incontinence and children due to there legitimately being a lack of control rather than it being deliberate. Even for people actually into ABDL most of us probably aren't going to want be in same room with some random stranger who may be actively loading their pants. Similarly most healthy adults like sex to some degree, but they don't want strangers doing it in front of them. Complaining that ABDL isn't mainstream accepted is like insisting that people shouldn't have a problem with a guy walking into a bar or restaurant naked or wearing a gimp suit or openly carrying around a sex toy and sitting next to you. If you're interacting with people you're not fucking or aren't comfortable with sexual stuff (which is most of the people you'll interact with on a regular basis) you need to have discretion with sex, fetishes, and kinks to avoid causing offense. This reminds me of idiots on social media talking about coming out to their family about ABDL interests or fetishes. Your friends and family don't need to or want to know about that. It's not like being gay where your same sex lover may be involved in family gatherings or everyday social interactions and may need to be concerned about how you'll have children.
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>>17041 I've used Garywear PUL pants before, they are quiet, but not great for the rest of your concerns. You could stuff a towel inside to absorb leaks. Very soon I'm going to order a couple pairs of privatina training panties. You can customize them to have a waterproof layer or even a fleece lining and a waterproof layer. The store photo, while iconic, doesn't really show how it could be a diaper cover. Luckily that one abdl girl modeled some for resale and put a huge cloth diaper under it. It's going to be expensive but I've wanted these for years and I'm tired of leaks myself.
Guys serious shit!!! I was talking with my BF over discord and he was pretty wasted. We reminisced about our childhoods and apparently we both kept our stuffed animals. I thought it was cute. A couple days later, wasted again he starts talking about how he wants a daddy in his life which me being the top of the relationship kinda fill. Tonight though he started talking about how much he loves onesies and he showed me a couple onesies and even put one on. He seemed insecure about it and kept asking if it was weird that he liked them. I'm seriously wondering if he's ABDL and doesn't want to to admit it. If so I fuckin scored with a little/playmate! I just don't know how to handle the situation or wait to see if he comes out on his own
>>17415 Excessive exclamation points, obvious attempt at exaggerated panicked post style that matches no actual mentally unstable person's posts a lot of people have actually seen. Talks about some random dude met into ABDL without indicating own sex suggesting a tranny playing out fantasy at best. All I can say is "get lost dumbass" because if I used fuck in the insult you'd get off on it in some way, troll or attention whore or whatever sort of moron that gets off on making obvious RP or troll posts on an image board outside of threads involving that.
Has anyone gotten plastic sheets? I want to get some, but ideally they'd be loud, for that extra-baby feel. Recommendations/tips?
>>17419 Breathable plastic/vinyl sheets aren't unusual. A lot of people use them simply because it's far easier and cheaper to clean or replace than a mattress because the main thing is sweat and whatever body fluids that accumulate over time. I've got one of these simply to extend the life of the mattress from normal use. Just getting a cover that doesn't let significant outside moisture though be it spills or general sweat or bed stuff expected can easily be cheaper in the long run than that and a mattress. They're not an entirely an ABDL or medical thing and pretty cheap. The main issue is that most stuff is not designed for full blown bed wetting, but rather to deal with sweat, cum, and occasional leaks or drink spills. You can find them on Amazon pretty cheap.
>>17406 >ABDL diapers are expensive Which is precisely because of the lack of acceptance making it niche. >absolutely need to be able to go down to a physical store for diapers for some reason or want to be wearing all the time Yeah, incontinent people, for one. It's ridiculous how they can't buy the products they actually need in stores. >Just vanilla sex and masturbation requires some privacy (unless you're living in some sort of isolated free love community) because people generally don't want to randomly see or hear other people fucking or fapping/schlicking in public There's a world of difference between fapping and simply wearing underwear under your clothes. If people can accept trans, they sure as fuck should be able to accept people wearing different underwear. >Normal people generally don't want to be next to someone who just shit or pissed themselves. It's bodily waste and most people are naturally disgusted by anything to do with bodily waste Putting aside how ABDLs don't necessarily use them at all, diapers and odor-killing pills like activated charcoal are how incontinent people are able to function in society. Piss and shit would still exist without diapers, so diapers aren't the actual issue. Diapers make bodily waste LESS disgusting. >People only tolerate it with medical incontinence No. No, they really, really don't. Have you ever read about the shit they go through, be it at school, work, their love lives and even at the hospital? The truth of the matter is that people only don't tolerate people wearing diapers past babyhood because they're bombarded with hateful lies about how diapers are only for babies during potty training. If you have any form of empathy, you should be supporting those who need to wear them by calling out negative attitudes towards them wherever you can. >Complaining that ABDL isn't mainstream accepted is like insisting that people shouldn't have a problem with a guy walking into a bar or restaurant naked or wearing a gimp suit or openly carrying around a sex toy and sitting next to you. No, it's like saying a guy shouldn't be treated like a potential rapist and risk losing everything if someone rummages through his drawers without his permission and finds a pair of panties in there. Unless you're a literal baby boomer or a trust fund baby, having a house to yourself hasn't been a guarantee for decades, and even then, you'd need to be forever alone unless you miraculously find someone who isn't a hateful vindictive little bitch. >you need to have discretion with sex, fetishes, and kinks to avoid causing offense. Cool, do you say the same thing about them speaking ill of fetishes and offending fetishists too, or are you just a hypocrite licking the boots of abusive people? Is it okay for us to react in the same way as black people being called the N-word whenever people speak of adult diapers with disgust? It's easy to speak ill of forcing fetishes on others, but it logically follows that forcing one's turn-offs on others would be just as bad, you know. >It's not like being gay Yeah, we're actually oppressed rather than privileged with the entire mainstream media and major companies openly supporting us. Your strawman of people wanting to be able to buy diapers at the store without getting harassed somehow being the same as flaunting their underwear is really forced and does nothing to obscure the actual issue of how our situation is much like that of gays in Saudi Arabia. If you don't think our situation needs to improve, you are either sheltered as fuck, or not an ABDL at all but rather a bad faith actor trying to undermine us.
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>>17310 >>17406 I don't know about other people but for me at least I think there's some very realistic and beneficial goals that could come from 'mainstream' acceptance. This probably means different things for different people but when I say mainstream acceptance I'm not talk about being able to openly flaunt wearing diapers in public or anything crazy. I just want people to view the fetish as 'kinky' as opposed to 'oh my god how disgusting and extreme is this shit?' Sort of like how BDSM has garnered way more public acceptance than what it used to. Or the fact that furries are literally fucking everywhere nowadays. Also, if you date vanilla women, vanilla women can very easily be influenced by society to view different things as acceptable sexy fun as opposed to weird depraved shit. So yes more public acceptance of ABDL is a good thing in that regard. Also, like >>17429 said >If people can accept trans, they sure as fuck should be able to accept people wearing different underwear. I absolutely agree with this. Not just that but the weirdness of the LGBT community in general. If society can wrap it's head around that sort of thing and slowly learn to be 'ok' with it (even if it's somewhat forced) fetishism really isn't that far behind.
>>17420 Are you serious? Try not to buy into modern victim mentality. Yeah some people mistake us for pedos and people discriminate against and bully people with medical conditions like incontinence, but I wouldn't really call ABDLs "oppressed". We're not "gays in Saudi Arabia" as you put it. I highly doubt anyone is protesting in the street or making laws because people like to wear adult diapers for psychological or sexual gratification other than people being against general perversion or because they think we're predators. Someone being disgusted with diapers is not in any way like being called a slur because disgust with waste is a natural instinctual reaction intended to prevent us from potentially getting sick so we're the weirdos in that regard. If anything it's at best laughable and at worst insulting you compare us to gays and blacks. ABDLs weren't systematically enslaved and discriminated against in the Americas for centuries. No one's saying ABDLs can't get married. There's no laws specifically against being into ABDL. No one's being lynched for wearing diapers. We're too niche for most people to care like a lot of weird fetishes. Normies in general just lump us in with all the other perverts. There's not really anything we can do about that and to they're not entirely wrong to do so. We're perverts and weirdos and a few ABDLs are indeed sick bastards. There's nothing wrong with being a pervert or weirdo, but we do need to keep our interests in check. People are always going to have problems with stuff like this, the least we can do is not give them extra ammo or paint targets on ourselves. >>17434 >BDSM That's not as acceptable as you think it is. In some countries aspects of BDSM are specifically illegal and in others it can fall under laws regarding assault because it's assumed that people can not knowingly consent to physical harm. There's some understandable logic to that. There have been legal cases of BDSM going to far and causing serious physical injury. >I absolutely agree with this. Not just that but the weirdness of the LGBT community in general. If society can wrap it's head around that sort of thing and slowly learn to be 'ok' with it (even if it's somewhat forced) fetishism really isn't that far behind. Honestly I'd prefer if it if ABDLs are never be lumped in with the mainstream LGBT movement. Even some gays and lesbians don't like it and have you not seen the shenanigans of certain online alphabet people and how much LGBT stuff is used to try to bully, shame, and guilt people? Gender bender stuff is one of my top fetishes and I like chicks and dicks, but I hate all the modern political nonsense regarding sexuality and gender and how some people try to drag real world politics into fantasy fetish porn.
>>17435 >Yeah some people mistake us for pedos and people discriminate against and bully people with medical conditions like incontinence >but I wouldn't really call ABDLs "oppressed" This is the very definition of cognitive dissonance. >I highly doubt anyone is protesting in the street People literally are running ABDL stores out of towns. >making laws People have been denied custody of their children over being ABDL. >other than people being against general perversion or because they think we're predators It's commonly agreed that reactions like that are wrong when it comes to LGBT nowadays, so people still behaving that way towards fetishes is nothing but hypocrisy. >If anything it's at best laughable and at worst insulting you compare us to gays and blacks. So you ARE just a bad faith infiltrator after all. Get the fuck out of ABDL communities, because we don't want the likes of you around here. We don't owe women, gays, trans people, black people or any other group shit unless they return the favor and stand up for us with the same passion they expect everyone else to have for them. Newsflash: Nobody gives a single fuck about what happened countless years ago as compared to what is going on right now, and, yes, oppression and censorship can be enacted by private companies and the ignorant public just as much as it can be by the government. Absolutely nobody but a pedantic oppression apologist subscribes to the line of thought that a group's suffering is only valid if it's officially at the hands of the government. >No one's saying ABDLs can't get married. Countless tales of breakups and divorces say otherwise. >No one's being lynched for wearing diapers. The comment sections of any news or documentaries about ABDL sure suggest otherwise. If we're not being lynched, it's because we haven't been found. >a few ABDLs are indeed sick bastards A few of anything are sick bastards. The difference is that other groups call out prejudice for what it is and don't let their bad eggs define them out of cowardice. >how much LGBT stuff is used to try to bully, shame, and guilt people As fucked up as it is, clearly it is effective. They have way more skeletons in their closets than we do, but get accepted simply because people have learned the hard way that fucking with them has consequences. The main issue with the ABDL community is that so many "ABDLs" are limp-wristed self-aggrandizing fucks who'll scream themselves blue in the face about how some ABDL company is evil for not donating to the latest in-vogue mainstream cause or whatever, then look the other way as people scream death threats at us and deny us interactions and income as a direct result of the latest hatemonger with a large platform spewing falsehoods about us unopposed.
>>17437 This is a fucking kink dude, not a lifestyle. Stop whining about "muh rights to get off on shitting myself near coworkers or kids". Most people can live an enormously happy life and limit their kink to the bedroom. If you can't, that's what you need to be seeing a therapist about. This "LGBT = ABDL" shit is pathological.
>>17440 Keep trying to force that exhibitionist strawman with zero connection to what anyone's saying. I'm sure the crowd that frothes with mindless malice at anyone wearing a diaper past an arbitrary age will have mercy on you when they discover your diapers if you do.
>>17437 >Get the fuck out of ABDL communities, because we don't want the likes of you around here. You've made me seen the error of my ways. I will never so much as jerk off to ABDL porn eever again. But in all seriousness... "No, I don't think I will." Do you not see the absurdity in angrily ranting about oppression and politics on a board catering to diaper fetishism? I'm just here to get off and discuss a fetish I like with others. I don't care how "oppressed" someone thinks they are or political spergery in a fetish community and from what I've seen most people don't like politics and oppression olympics mixed with their porn. ABDL isn't political, the same as pretty much any other fetish, despite the jokes here about political ABDL. You're an idiot if you think otherwise. Libido and orgasm are just there to make sure you're reproducing and some people manage to get off in the weeds with it which is why human sexual pursuits are so varied and aren't always conducive to actual reproduction. I see little point in taking weird sexual interests in myself or anyone else seriously beyond it being kept under control and out of site enough to not cause problems for me or others. This is why I avoid discussion in gender bender fetish communities. There's always some polititard bringing up real world tranny shit. TLDR; I don't give a fuck about your political views. I don't give a fuck if you think ABDLs are a discriminated minority because most us can't engage in this fetish as desired all the time. Most people can't enjoy their sexual interests or fetishes as fully desired, get over it. We're all perverts and freaks here. I see no point in pretending we're dignified and serious when we're getting off to inanimate underwear intended for pissing and shitting in. >>17440 At least this guy gets it. Anyway, I'm going back to masturbating to adults in diapers now.
>>17442 That's a whole lot of words for "I said dumb shit and got destroyed by the facts".
>>17437 Jesus dude. >running ABDL stores out of towns Plenty of gay bathhouses or adult stores get run out of town. So has Chic-fil-A. There's an ABDL store near me doing just fine. These are just local issues around community standards, visibility etc. >denied custody of their children If you're referring to the recent case in Australia, the decision was based on (a) the father running an online ABDL business, and getting his children to help him in the business, (b) the father wearing diapers openly around the children, (c) the father picking a child up from school or mother's house while wearing a diaper, despite previously agreeing not to. Judge ruled that children would likely feel embarrassed or humiliated, particularly at school, due to their father's behaviour. Again, "ABDL --> Bedroom" doesn't equal oppression. > breakups and divorces Yeah, cause the not-as-oppressed-as-us LGBTs never had breakups or divorces. If ABDL causes a breakup, good. Now you can find someone you're compatible with and who accepts you. It takes time but it's worth it. People can also get stuck in cycles like: shame --> repression of ABDL urges --> urges grow and overcome shame --> 'binge' period (e.g. 24/7, wearing openly, untraining) --> shame. I imagine that if ABDL contributes to a divorce, it's because there wasn't a healthy and stable expression of ABDL urges in the relationship before the wedding.


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