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Meta thread for discussion of the board itself

In this thread we talk about the board itself. We ask questions like >vol me fag >why this board suck pp? >banners? >why yo momma ghey And get answers like <k <cause you make shit threads <I don't know how to make those <Fuck you pavement ape! Also people call each other faggots. There is drama. And somehow a journo blames this all on David Duke.

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/writ/

Are you writing? Do you want to? Dreams of writing for anything in particular? Share, chat, and critique. Let's suffer together.

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Monthly Book Klub

Hello anons and welcome to the book klub. Here once a month we read a new book, and then talk about it.

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Mein Kampf -Adolf Hitler

Part autobiography, historical treatise, dissertation on goverment and its role in the life of men. And then there's the man's solution to the various issues of the world. His solution is political. This is party platform as much as it is anything. And it is many things. Taken orally while hitler languished in prison, there is a strong stream of consciousness to the chapters. A very good read and highly recommended.

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Demon: The Fallen a white wolf RPG

Okay so I wanna run a demon campaign. Whether we start with one guy and eventually gain more, or instead wind up with a one on one personal experience is whatever to me. Either way sounds good. I have done both, and White wolf makes single player experiences relatively fun and easy. Your character, should you choose to make one and join, will be a Demon, a fallen angel. One of Gods own who turned and rebelled. After an unfathomable time spent in hell you escape. And find yourself in the late nineties. Where God appears to have long left his creation, and there are no angels to be seen. Left with no means of answering the only questions you still had, you turn to a personal philosophy to make life meaningful, and continue on in the possessed body you have stolen. We shall, depending on the backstory of your character, have antagonists, and vices. The monster within is the usual pretext to pretty much every WW gameline. And this is no exception. Morality is tracked quite a bit more than say DnD. Anyway if you are interested drop a post here, and we will see about getting you a corebook, and then walking you through character creation. Afterwards we can have the first session here. This site supports die rolls, and miniatures and graph paper are never really seen during a WW rpg anyway. If for whatever reason we do find them necessary I have backups for that possibility as well.

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Memorable quotes and passages

Post here every time you come by a quote you'd like to share. "I swear this to you by the love I hold for you, a love I will still hold even after I leave you dead on this floor." - Paul Muad'Dib

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Predator: Concrete jungle by Lawrence Watt-Evans

Based on the comic book by Mark Verheiden. This was the first licensed predator story following the first film and precedes the sequel. published in 1989 this tells an alternate but very similar predator 2. The major difference is this has Arnold back for round 2 instead of danny glover. and also without any of the concepts from 2 such as the Yautja being a race obsessed with honor and fairness. We are shown a take with the Predators being a very advanced species that has a drunken redneck problem. They dont have nukes to hide tech. They dont give a damn about man. They just wanna fight and are spiteful bastards. What they do care about are trophies and no pred would ever let themselves be made a trophy. This gets fucking insane. A fun read which quickly turns into an X-com prequel. The first of a three part series spanning all the way to 2001. You can see the roots of what will become predator 2 though, a Big city (NY not LA) a Heatwave, Big Willy the voodoo king, no feminist chick detective though, or annoying reporters, or basically all the shit that sucked in the actual sequel. Whats missing? basically the entire ending is completely different with the lore being established in a very different direction. Updates later on the direct sequel Cold War

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What are you currently reading?

Or what have you recently read? Talk about it ITT.

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Horus Rising - Horus Heresy #1 - Warhammer 40k

The first book in what will become a very long series. Dan Abnett. What the Black Library call their best. Hes an okay author, and by the end of all this we are going to look back fondly on this novel anyway. The introduction of Horus himself of course, but also Garviel Loken, and a score of "remembrancers" who will become more important later but here mostly just get drunk, and abused by locals and demons. Well it's pretty good, and short so there isn't much I can say that you wouldn't read shortly anyway.

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The Flight of the Eisenstein - James Swallow - Horus Heresy 4

We start at the mayhem of the betrayal of Istvaan 3. We end in the airless vacuum of the moon's surface. In both there is blood. In both there is Only War In the first chapter we meet the true cast. The warships of Horus. And slowly the mere immortal Astartes, and lower still human crew. Anons we gonna see some gut ripping action. A ship making for earth with no Gellar field. Pursued by the might of Horus, hounded by daemons. Oh yeah action galore.

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Tolkien's Legendarium

I just finished reading The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, and The Silmarillion. I know there are tons of other books related to this series, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which ones are actually worth reading as narratives, and which are mostly made for their value of their analysis. I understand how some people might care about analyzing the development of the texts, but I really just want to read stories. But it's hard to figure out which publications are actually made for the sake of telling stories. For example, The History of Middle Earth seems mostly to exist for its analytical value, but its first two volumes are called The Book of Lost Tales, and seem to feature some narratives not told elsewhere, among others that are just earlier versions of narratives in The Silmarillion. Is The Book of Lost Tales (or any other book of The History of Middle Earth) actually worth reading for its narrative value, or only for seeing the literary development of The Silmarillion? Related to the same question, there is Unfinished Tales. As these are unfinished, I'm less interested in them, but would anyone say they are actually worth reading for their narrative value, either on their own or as they add to the greater narrative of the world? Or are they more just interesting for seeing the ideas Tolkien toyed with in the development of his work? What about the "Great Tales?" The Children of Hurin, Beren and Luthien, and The Fall of Gondolin. They were published as standalone books in the last 15 years, and they seemed like interesting stories in The Silmarillion, so I'd be interested in reading more fleshed out versions. Is that what these publications are? From what I've gleaned from the internet, Children of Hurin and Fall of Gondolin sound like they're novels, but Beren and Luthien is apparently a publication of two versions of the same story, to show the development of it. I'd be less interested in that than I would in just a full book of a much more fleshed out story, especially since that chapter of The Silmarillion interested me much more than the other two Great Tales. Of course, I'd also be interested in your thoughts and questions about the main three books. Now that I've finally read them, I finally understand them. I tried to read The Silmarillion when I was like 12, after Jackson's Fellowship of the Ring movie came out, and I read The Hobbit, so I figured reading the thing that takes place first would be fine, I wouldn't need to know the end of Lord of the Rings since it takes place later. I was sorely mistaken. I finished it, but retained almost nothing. Now, 20 years later, I finally understand it. Except for one thing. Who is Tom Bombadil? I'm pretty sure he's the embodiment of the forest. I mean his wife is very blatantly the spirit of the river, and that would match the forest well enough. But I'd be interested in hearing/arguing about other ideas.

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Gaunts Ghosts

The first omnibus.

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/lounge/ where anons have a chat

On occasion when you aren't calling each other faggots, and declaiming the poor taste in other anons. Well it can be good to have a friendly aimless chat.

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Two for free?

Todays books are two extremely fun reads. We take you amongst the xenos ranks on this excursion to literary delight. The first is an ork vs mechanicus slobberknocker that truly entertains with sheer absurdity. The coldly rational mechanicum cannot comprehend the madness of the orkish Waaaagh. Second we have Necrons vs. Necrons vs. Everyone else. Where two giant robot nerds prank each other across millennia. If you don't have a good time with tonight's selection then your a fag or something idk. Never read warhammer? Start here! As one of the highpoints in the black library these are a sure fire funtime with all the info needed also presented. Have fun and remember. THE EMPEROR PROTECTS

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Forge of mars: the omnibus by Graham McNeill

Collecting all three of Mcneills mars books in one we have a grand adventure spanning the entire mechanicus. A good one guys. The Martian Mechancius's thirst for knowledge is insatiable, and when Archmagos Lexell Kotov learns of an ancient expedition that went in search of the very source of life in the universe itself, he immediately assembles a powerful Explorator fleet to follow in its footsteps. Not only does Kotov have the powerful engines and warriors of the Adeptus Mechanicus to call upon, even the troops of the Imperial Guard and the vaunted Space Marines join his crusade. The way, however, is treacherous and fraught with perils both within and without the fleet. There are marvels and wonders at the edge of known space, discoveries beyond price, but there are those who believe the secrets of the universe should stay hidden and beings there who pose a danger not only to the fleet but to the Imperium itself.

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Daemon - Daniel Suarez - Daemon 1

An interesting near future scifi book. I believe the author is a practicing medical doctor. At the very least he finished med school. Theres a strange horror he brings to the part with his knowledge of anatomy. And then he starts having fun. Ai controlled motorcycles with chainsaw arms, a video game nazi gains AI sentience and begins saving the world from jews. It is bizarre and quite a bit of fun. Theres some sjw shit at the end of book two where it gets all preachy about revenge being pointless, but other than that you got the burned man. Ripped off bot from fallout online, but from the idea of a swat guy going through anons killhouse. So the story is a brilliant game designer dies, and his last gift is a program that turns on that destroys all society, and rebuilds it into a better form. Book one mainly deals with that. And it gets fucking messy. So much cool action in this. I spent the last month wanting to reread this but couldn't find the title. A duckduckgo search for near future scfi written by a doctor about nazi video games returned nothing obviously. But today I found it. So anyway I'm starting this again now. It's good I recall.

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Inferno! -Chris Claremont

Strike the match…fan the flames…and light the Inferno! Limbo’s demon lords corrupt two of the X-Men’s nearest and dearest — Colossus’ sister, Illyana Rasputin, and Cyclops’ wife Madelyne Pryor — and use them to bring a horde of demons raining down on New York City! But as Illyana battles to regain her soul, Madelyne threatens to cast a spell that will merge Earth and limbo permanently — with the sacrifice being her own innocent son! And when Mister Sinister brings his own agenda into the mix, secrets are revealed that rock Cyclops to the core! The X-Men, X-Factor and New Mutants face their most harrowing ordeal ever — with the fate of the world in the balance! https://getcomics.info/marvel/x-men-milestones-inferno-tpb-2019/

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50 shades of Führer

I had an idea for a steamy taboo romance. Making something in the likes of 50 shades of gray but with a nazi male protagonist. Like for example she is a regular girl who believes in BLM and almost gets raped by a pack of blacks. But them the hero appears and saves her. He behaves all mysterious and hard to get while showing he has a heart of gold in the process but then she discover his secret and start trying to convert him. He gives her a ultimatum and asks her to submit to his whims. Then the 50 shades shit starts and he teaches her to feel like a real submissive traditional woman. While all her friend reprimand her. We could make some and try to get the media reverse hyped about it. How its despicable and racist and all that and then take advantage of the forbidden fruit effect to make women want to read it. It would be just so easy marketing. The idea is precisely to exploit that taboo thing to arouse interest. There's psychological research on it that says people will show more interest for an article if the researcher mentioned previously it was banned or something. It could be such a success. But more for ego boost for the writer. Because selling this would be a nightmare. Anyone wants to do it?

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50 shades of Führer

I had an idea for a steamy taboo romance. Making something in the likes of 50 shades of gray but with a nazi male protagonist. Like for example she is a regular girl who believes in BLM and almost gets raped by a pack of blacks. But them the hero appears and saves her. He behaves all mysterious and hard to get while showing he has a heart of gold in the process but then she discover his secret and start trying to convert him. He gives her a ultimatum and asks her to submit to his whims. Then the 50 shades shit starts and he teaches her to feel like a real submissive traditional woman. While all her friend reprimand her. We could make some and try to get the media reverse hyped about it. How its despicable and racist and all that and then take advantage of the forbidden fruit effect to make women want to read it. It would be just so easy marketing. The idea is precisely to exploit that taboo thing to arouse interest. There's psychological research on it that says people will show more interest for an article if the researcher mentioned previously it was banned or something. It could be such a success. But more for ego boost for the writer. Because selling this would be a nightmare. Anyone wants to do it?

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Infinity Cup & advertising

How about we try our luck with this thing? There's currently no team that owns the /lit/ name and it could help garner us some anons without having to go out of our way to advertise it.

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unabomber manifesto

industrial society critique

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I miss that guy who would rage and write long red walls of text about George RR Martin being fat and unable to finish a Song of Ice and Fire back in original 8chan. It was a good thread.

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The Screwtape Letters By C.S. Lewis

I have not read this book yet, but after reading this excerpt that defines /pol/ and political misanthropy in general, I just might. >This is an epistolary novel, written in the form of a series of letters. The letters are from Screwtape, a senior devil to Wormwood, who’s trying to tempt his human soul.

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Challenger's Hope - David Feintuch - seafort saga

The second book in the series. Im including the 1995 hardcover book club edition art, because I have always liked it better. And it conveys Seafort's complete and total hatred for satans children. Which all xenos must be. So here we get to see probably the the second longest campaign waged against the fish in these books. It picks up more in the third, but here we really start to rack up the kills. And then disaster once more. With no way home, food and air running low. A crew made up of the worst offenders, and impressed colonists. Only two functional lasers. Stranded in deep. Awaiting the casual hand of death. Damn this is my favorite of the whole series. The only thing that can hold the ship together, and see anyone home alive is the Captain's fanatical discipline, and complete and totally unshakeable will. Highly recommended. You will have fun.

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The Guns of Avalon - Roger Zelazny - Amber 2

Ah Corwin, our beloved heroic protagonist, rightful King of Amber, and currently a blind prisoner in it's dungeons. Yeah somehow we start in worse place than the first book. But it ends with Corwin deciding this fantasy universe needs M-16s. Ignore the Darla parts as much as possible. She sucks.

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Kurt Vonnegut

I just finished Slaughterhouse-Five, this was my introduction to Vonnegut and it couldn't have left a better impression on me if it tried. I went into this completely blind and with little to no expectations but left pleasantly surprised. I would love to know what the fact that ending was supposed to convey exactly beyond "war bad". What should I read next?

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Stack/Shelf Thread

Feel free to share your book shelves and or stacks!

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An exploration of metaphysical concepts in fiction: consensus reality

The idea of the nature of all aspects, laws, entities, and phenomena of reality (aka. absolutely everything and everyone in existence) re-writing itself to match with the majority agreement of all the minds of the universe as to what it should be (consciously or unconsciously). This premise is similar to "mage: the ascension" except that it really explores what this premise of the aggregate psychic influence of mental activity over reality itself would mean, it would not just mean changing of phenomena in the present, but in the past or future as well (like if enough minds believe the holohoax happened, then the evidence in the present would change to indicate a past where it did happen, and a time-traveler to this past would end up in an alternative universe where it had occurred as claimed, unless most minds in the present also believed most minds in this past believed that the holohaox wasn't happening, which would cause the time-traveler to show up in a past where it didn't happen, but from a present where the past was changed from the present to make the present as if it had occurred back then, because the past consensus would warp reality to make it so that the holohoax wasn't happening the moment the time-traveler arrived), it would be able to affect itself, like altering what realities people's mental power goes towards, or straight up creating or deleting people with minds that could contribute to determining what the aggregate consensus on reality is, and the strange idea of making an exception for one species, normal humans, as the sole contributors to the "vote" on what their reality is going to be like is rather arbitrary, what if all minds, including those of animals and even aliens, were to have a "vote"? last deviation is the idea of belief being the sole form of mental activity that contributes to the nature of reality, it might be the strongest kind of mental activity, but the mind has all sorts of mental phenomena going on, for example, imagination and fantasy or thought and emotion, if belief has an influence, surely these should as well? The setting is one where the existence of magic means that all minds can warp reality, any kind of mental activity exerts some level of influence upon the nature of existence. The degree of psychic ability that any mental activity has to alter the world depends on various factors, like how complex the mind is, how close the mind is to what it's affecting, the nature of the mental activity itself, the level of consciousness of the mental activity, the strength of that mental activity, and the duration the mental activity occurs over. The strongest kind of influence would be the most complex kind of mind believing with the greatest level of certainty and with the greatest force of will, at the most forefront of it's own consciousness, for the longest period of time, about some phenomena occupying the exact same space as itself, something usually describing the a priori knowledge of a mind about it's own existence. Since the mental activity of every mind exerts some degree of influence over the way things are, multiple minds can be in disagreement with one another, and even one mind can pull existence in multiple conflicting directions at once just by disagreeing with itself, reality can be pulled in multiple directions by the contradictions between the different potential realities that the actual reality is being pulled towards, in this case, the potential reality with the greatest amount of psychic power behind it is the one which becomes the actual reality. In the rare cases of ties, the nature of some phenomena may be equally disputed as being multiple possibilities that are equally backed by psychic power, and in addition to being supported by perfectly equal amounts of psychic energy, these possibilities are backed by more psychic energy than any other, in such cases, the ties are settled by going through the closest minds to the phenomena and whichever possibility being tied for gets the first bit of psychic power that breaks the tie in favor of one of the tied possibilities determines the nature of the contested phenomena, locality matters (also, most of these exceedingly rare events are resolved immediately without ever being noticed). Any aspect of reality can be affected by the influence of mental activity, including the minds of others and the mental activity produced by them, in such cases, the affected minds would influence reality in accordance with their new states, thus the consensus could theoretically affect itself. Since the consensus could create the existence of new minds, or remove existing minds from existence (such as the consensus causing the creation or erasure of people), and the presence or absence of those minds would include the presence or absence of their mental activity, those new minds that are created by the consensus would create a new contributution to it, and those existing minds which are deleted by the consensus would take their contribution with them, in both cases, this would only affect their contributions towards the consensus in the present and going forward, should there be changes made to their past existence by the consensus, their contributions to it in the altered past would only be observable to one who enters this past from the present after the consensus of the past had been retroactively altered, not just by the creation or erasure of minds that existed in the past, but also by the alteration of what way the minds that existed in the past had contributed to the consensus of their time (see below). The consensus can not only affect the present and future state of reality, but also it's past and future states, should the consensus influence the past to have been a certain way, all of reality would warp itself to be consistent with having come from that version of the past, should the consensus influence the future to be a certain way, the future would warp itself to fulfill this prediction. This makes time-travel more like stepping into another world entirely, as going back to a past that the consensus of the present had altered is not going back to the "true" past that existed pre-alteration. Furthermore, if the consensus on the present had altered the consensus of the past, that past consensus would not have any influence on the time-travelers reality before they went back in time, since their minds wouldn't be present to exert any influence on reality, but after doing so, the time-traveler is now in a world where the consensus is different, and therefore reality will warp itself to match with that new consensus, since the time-traveler's influence is going to be easily overpowered by the influence of the minds of everyone else in that version of the past, and if this consensus of the past was created by a consensus of the present, it's possibly a consensus that never created a reality before, thus the time-traveler is trapped in a brand new version of reality without precedent (whether they are aware of this or not). This is because only minds that are active in the present can contribute to determining the nature of reality at any point in time, a mind that has ceased to generate any activity or which has yet to begin doing so does not have it's contributions factored in to the state of reality at the time. A time-traveler going to the future would have the same experience, as the existing consensus of the future, which may or may not have been influenced by the consensus of the present, would overpower the time-traveler and leave them trapped in a reality that is produced by that future consensus, just as with the case of travel to the past, time-travel in this setting is potentially like stepping into an alternate reality, however, normally the time-traveler wouldn't notice since the differences between produced realities would not likely be readily noticeable. Still, history is no longer an exact science in such a setting.

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Midshipman's hope - Seafort Saga 1 - David Feintuch

I shouldn't make threads at this ungodly hour. I can barely see. Oh well Midshipman's Hope! We meet our fucked up asshole of a hero. First midshipman Nicholas Ewing Seafort. The man who pisses everyone in the galaxy off, I love him. Ah what a prick, that motherfucker. So the germ of this book was ole Davy saying to himself, what if a captain was incompetent, and worse everyone knew, and worst he knows hes incompetent and everyone knows. The plot needs him unable to resign so that's what the customs of his government, training, and religion give him. So there we are deep interstellar in a world that sees ships take years to reach colony worlds, and bang hes captain. Oh it gets good, and oh so bad. Anons David can't write a convincing woman to save his goddamn life. Which is probably why his chicks seem so real. Inscrutability can be a benefit. We also meet Vax Holser, Sandy Wilsky, and Alexi Tamarov. All semi interesting in their own idiosyncrasies. We get full scale mutinies, boarding actions, corridor firefights, drunken brawls, first contact ever and immediately afterwards aliens get blown to stardust. A yes. A strong christian government that brooks no heretical hellspawn or mutiny against Gods own government. Shit what we don't get in this first book we get in spades in the truly impactful sequel. You ever felt hunger pangs? Well prepare for Davy to give you PTSD. I defy you not to lose weight reading the sequel. Ah but we can plug that later. Anyway where was I. Can't remember. Post time.

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Fulgrim - Horus heresy 5 - Graham McNeill

Ah book 5. Here we are finally leaving Horus' shadow and narrative for a bit. Graham is pretty good, it's unfortunate that insane artists are only marginally interesting to me. So we see Fulgrim take the road to damnation. Demons in swords. Genes fucked up. And finally an orgy of death. Ah emperor's children. Always with the raping. Yeah this was kinda fun. Needed more ferrus manus.

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Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov

The book that is often referenced, but hardly ever read. The story is a first person narrative written from the perspective of Hubert Humphries, a paedophile. While the objects of his affection are older than most of the paramours pursued by Don Juan, or say Romeo, and God. Mr. Humphries is presented commonly as a terrible pedo out to corrupt innocent Lolita. This is far from the actual narrative of the novel. In the novel what we see are the real life foibles of a lover so young, and naive. When telling a child no means no more pussy it becomes harder, and so our protagonist is tempted into further bad ideas. In the end we see that the innocent, naive one was our very protagonist. All in all a good book. An interesting story that makes one really think about the subjects being discussed. 7/10 rather good.

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Nine Princes in Amber - Roger Zelazny - Amber 1

The first in the venerable Amber chronicles, and more importantly the first in the five book Corwin Cycle. We meet an Amnesiac. Bed ridden in some manner of hospital, and where this any other book it probably wouldn't go much further. But here our protagonist proves paranoia isn't necessarily wrong. Just insane. So he rips off his casts and sets a trap for the hospital staff. Soon we have moved from assault to blackmail at gunpoint. Then pockets flush, stolen .38 in hand, and no fucking idea who he is or how he got to upstate New York. Anons I love this series. Absolute favorite. It's fucking good. Highly recommend.

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Novelization Thread

If it wasn't originally a novel. It is now. all things brought to wordy form FUCK OFF MODS THESE ARE BOOKS TOO

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Young Adult Novels

The YA genre is wide and full of garbage, but I was young once. :( I read Demonata by Darren Shan It was pretty good, notably better than what I gather is a more well known series, the vampire ones that start with Cirque du Freak. In Demonata you follow different stories in the first several books that all connect to each other, and all involve the demonata, essentially demons. The books don't really depend on each other until after Beck, and then start ramping up the complexity of the overarching story. I liked Cirque du Freak. I'm not sure I'd recommend it. Demonata, though, I would recommend. I think Darren was a more experienced and skilled writer at this point and could really pull off good stuff. I was also a teenager though