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Selling crypto drugs Anonymous 08/28/2021 (Sat) 15:52:13 No. 3967
I just saw some people here interested in NFTs and promoting their own stuff, so here is mine: https://opensea.io/collection/pre-rolls I just started this year and plan to keep doing it for a long time. Most of them are free (plus gas charges). If you just want to share your opinion and not buying it's fine too, after all I am still learning.
>>3967 Why should I care about your NFTs specifically?
>>3968 If you mean why you should buy them, I don't have any particular reason, this is just some art I like to do and share, and sell to whoever likes it. Every NFT I make is a single edition and includes a HD image file of the NFT and a HD video file too, both as unlockable content once you make the purchase
>>3969 I don't see anyway I could make back the 0.01 ETH I would spend buying it, your art isn't interesting enough to be worth 0.01, and even if those two statements were true, they'd be no reason to buy them for 0.01 because I wouldn't be supporting the artist I theoretically enjoy the art of. I don't see why anyone, anywhere, at all, would buy your NFTs, including the people who like the art.
>>3971 You would actually be supporting the artist buying the piece (now talking in general, not only about me), as that money would go straight away to the artist's wallet, and even if the piece was free and you were only paying that amount as a gas fee, the fact that you are buying it means that you are moving the piece and making it more visible to other potential buyers. About your thoughts on my stuff, I respect your opinion and everyone's thoughts about it too, and that's precisely why I'm here. I just made this post to try new ways to advertise what I do and get some feedback, maybe generate some discussion around it too. If you want to know the reason why I think I could sell this, I would need to extend this answer even more, so let me know if this is the case
>>3972 >You would actually be supporting the artist buying the piece (now talking in general, not only about me), as that money would go straight away to the artist's wallet, This would be true if you were listing actual prices, if it's free, the gas fee disappears into the aether, going to no one. thus free is never the correct price for an NFT other than giveaways, from all perspectives. >the fact that you are buying it means that you are moving the piece and making it more visible to other potential buyers. Not really. Anyone who could find your pieces already knows they exist, thus defeating the point. There's no feature that tracks how many people are trading NFTs other than the largest collectibles, so until trading was rapid enough to start pushing your works there there would be no visibility generated. >About your thoughts on my stuff, I respect your opinion and everyone's thoughts about it too, and that's precisely why I'm here. I just made this post to try new ways to advertise what I do and get some feedback, maybe generate some discussion around it too. My perspective would be free is the wrong price for an NFT, from all perspectives. Charge like 5 dollars at least so I can pretend this is one step up from "buymeacoffee". >If you want to know the reason why I think I could sell this, I would need to extend this answer even more, so let me know if this is the case This is what I originally asked, why the fuck should I care about your art in particular over other NFTs?
>>3973 >There's no feature that tracks how many people are trading NFTs other than the largest collectibles there are websites like rarible that show, together with the NFT, the user that owns it and its creator, so being these two different users that would mean that the piece would become visible in two different user boards inside the website. This is just one example but yeah, buying is a way of promoting too. >Charge like 5 dollars at least so I can pretend this is one step up from "buymeacoffee". I do charge 0.005 ETH in the last series of the collection I am advertising in this thread. This series is composed by 20 different NFTs (as the other 3 series) with the same price most of them. I charge 0 ETH in the other 3 series of the same collection, basically because giving them a price would mean considering a piece, and not different tests I have been doing until I presented the last series. Plus, the other series are clearly worthless because I don't even see why they should have a value. >why the fuck should I care about your art in particular over other NFTs? That's a good question. First of all, it is known that an artist grows in value when their pieces get sold more and more expensive over time. I plan to keep working on the NFT format for years, as I am studying this market and digital contemporary art as a PhD student (just began this year, don't blame me for my lack of experience), and this can be considered as a strong point to believe that I will keep working and proggresing consistently on this. The same is happening through my social media, as I am improving my engagement and following numbers since March this year, and will keep growing over time. Aside of all the visibility my person and my work may get over time, I also work as an artist, not only as a seller. This is a series of work I like to present as a way of bringing to the public the way I see the Internet and the social changes it brings to the present. The joints are a reference of the dark markets the Deep Web used to host (Silk Road was a good example) when all this crypto thing was still developing, being drugs one of the most offered and sold items. This last series of Pre-rolls have also been treated as digital paintings for this purpose, adding symbolic elements (the ether symbol, the white straight lines as the net, the electricity in the moving clouds and neons, etc), a specific palet of colors and compositrion to guide the eye through all the painting, a numeration for every piece, a title (in the case of this las series, the material in which every joint is made) and my signature. Being this a digital image, I also decided to ad movement, not too frenetic to make it nice to view, but enough to keep the interest in the piece for a long time, inviting the viewer to make their own reflections and not getting bored of it after 5 minutes. It is also important to mention that this piece is also thought to be presented phisicly, in a LED monitor to be understood as a painting. About the materials I chose to emulate in every joint, I have made a mix of real and fictional ones to enphasize in this idea of the digital and tangible things to be all the same kind of thing in the virtual space, so the same way the joint I presented in this thread is made out of kryptonite, there is also one made out of gold, and white marble, and fluzo, and mithril, and so on. Future NFTs I'm planning to make will be also other kinds of drugs, guns and other elements following this idea of the NFT market as a very similar concept to the Deep Web market it was born as. I hope this helps to get an idea of this, you can keep asking in any case.
>>3974 >this market and digital contemporary art as a PhD student (just began this year, don't blame me for my lack of experience) >Not even an Art PhD, but an NFT PhD
>>3975 Well, it is an art PhD. Once again: >>3974 >I am studying this market and digital contemporary art the idea of the whole PhD will be a study of the digital art history in general (it will be mostly contemporary though, for obvious reasons), and being this the case, it will be impossible to avoid making the whole study progress around the NFTs. But the main thing is bigger than justblockchain, ehtereum and cryptopunks, it should take me between 3 and 5 years.
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Hey Oliver is this you?
>all that garbage art theory spew Well you certainly read like a PhD, which would explain why you're pursuing a PhD as opposed to actually being a working artist. Pro-tip, if you're selling someone something you should convince them why they benefit from buying it not why you would benefit from selling it dumbass. Especially the NFT market which is glorified speculation at this point. If anything you've further reinforced your art isn't worth buying because not even you believe your art is good enough to support yourself on.
>>3978 I think I got misunderstood here. I was talking about the benefits of buying my art because I was asked about it. And I actually explained the benefits of buying the pieces right after that, that is what all that block of text I wrote was about, maybe the problem was that I didn't make it clear enough, I don't know. Also, I guess you are kind of right about me valuing my own art, but I never said it was worthless, my point is that the first pieces I (lazy)minted in Opensea, which are the first 3 series of the collection, were part of a process of testing, and that the last series is the actual thing, so I consider only that last one to be worth something. I put them under a cheap prize because I think that, the way the market is working now, making them more expensive won't atract more potential buyers, but I'm not 100% sure either. I precisely wanted this kind of discussion to check other people's opinions about this.
>>3980 You didn't make it clear, at all, period. That art theory spew about "what it represents" and "how it should be presented" may matter to some high brow intellectual who gives two shits, but is that honestly who you're expecting to be interested in the NFT market? When you try to sell something to someone you are attempting to sell *that piece* to *that person*. How many people do you honestly think care about this >The joints are a reference of the dark markets the Deep Web used to host (Silk Road was a good example) when all this crypto thing was still developing, being drugs one of the most offered and sold items. or this >This last series of Pre-rolls have also been treated as digital paintings for this purpose, adding symbolic elements (the ether symbol, the white straight lines as the net, the electricity in the moving clouds and neons, etc), a specific palet of colors and compositrion to guide the eye through all the painting, a numeration for every piece, a title (in the case of this las series, the material in which every joint is made) and my signature. This by the way >First of all, it is known that an artist grows in value when their pieces get sold more and more expensive over time. Is only true in a minority of cases. Most pieces of art go unsold, period. The second most likely situation that happens is the piece of art gets sold once, then disappears. It is absolutely rarity for any of these things to go up in value. Why is *your shit* specifically worth buying, why is *your shit* something that will increase in value as time goes by? Who the fuck cares what Oliver Alonso with a Master's from Manchester Metropolitan University living in Vigo, Spain says about the Darknet. Did your Master never actually teach you how to interact with real people, or have you just been arguing with other snob art students who haven't made a dime how to best sell art?
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Why are you shilling on an obscure imageboard frequented by the same 12 people? You will do much better on a more popular site like instagram or tweeter. The 3 people who trade crypto on this board will never buy your nfts.
>>3983 That art theory spew may matter to some high brow intellectual who gives two shits, but is that honestly who you're expecting to be interested in the NFT market? Ok that is a good point. >Most pieces of art go unsold, period. The second most likely situation that happens is the piece of art gets sold once, then disappears. I agree with the first point, second one is not true. It may look like so because the pieces that get more visibility in the news are the ones that get sold by the highest prizes that, certainly, only get sold after long periods of time. But rigth after that, the rest of the less relevant pieces of the same artist that got sold are rapidly resold, taking advantage of that increase in value of his work, and the cycle repeats itself again and again. But anyway, I get what you mean.
>>3986 thanks for the promo I guess >>3984 I was just curious about what kind of info I could get out of you guys. I also saw other people sharing their links here, so I thought it could be worth it. Aside from some bullshit and unnecessary insults I can say I got some interesting feedback, and that's better than nothing I guess.
One question then: which NFTs did do buy or would you buy with a small amount of money (lets say 0.5 ETH or less)? and why?
>>3992 I would not buy NFTs and >1000USD is not really a small amount of money.
>>3993 I was talking an average judging by what is usually spent in famous creators, but ok, what kind of NFT related content calls your atention the most? sport players NFTs, collectibles, 3D renders...? Also consider that some of them include meet and greets with celebrities or limited edition products like shoes
>>3991 If you are serious about making money through nfts I suggest looking into shill packages by pro shillers. It takes at least $10k in marketing for a successful nft launch though so if you can't even afford 0.5 ETH you should forget about it.


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