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Browser and Internet Privacy Thread Anonymous 08/13/2020 (Thu) 06:48:58 No. 984
A place to shill for your favorite browsers & addons. Learn how to protect yourself from the botnet. What are your favorite addons and browsing tricks to protect your privacy? Share them here so we can all be a little safer. Browsers Chrome Chrome is somehow still in the lead due to sheer momentum, despite even the dumbest lusers cracking jokes about memory usage. Google has continued to abuse their position as the largest website and browser to force non-standards compliant changes to the way rendering works, generally to their benefit. Should be avoided at all costs. They track everything you do in some way. Chromium Even "de-Google'd" it still phones home and tracks your every move. Plus it gives them market share to bully smaller browsers and websites into complying with their standards. Avoid. Firefox Mozilla is pretty cucked and it's running on Rust these days, but it's a decent compromise between the modernity of Chrome and the standards compliance of something like Pale Moon. It's the closest you can get to a proper browser that's also updated regularly. Addons are worse now that they use Google's "web extensions" API, which is a downgrade from the Mozilla API and no more secure. But the whole "Quantum" thing has it flying, and they are better about standards compliance than Chrome is, and usually only break away because Chrome gives them no choice. Pale Moon The Gentooman's preferred choice, although some sites just don't play nice with it anymore. The last real holdout of old Gecko rendering. Has a diverse ecosystem, but it's basically the remnants of Firefox from yesteryear repackaged. Not bad if you can stand many sites not playing nice. Brave A cryptocurrency scam in browser form that's running modified Chrome underneath. Avoid. Lynx Text-mode browsing. Quality way to browse a surprising number of websites. Highly recommended. Unfortunately doesn't work well with LynxChan, which is ironic. Addons Block Ads uBlock Origin is pretty much uncontested. Be sure to avoid AdBlock Plus and uBlock, which are both sellouts. JavaScript LibreJS or uMatrix make it easy to manage and secure what scripts run in your browser and where page contests are loaded from. Canvas Defender' I use this to ward-off HTML5 canvas fingerprinting. It will return a randomize response to fingerprinting requests when it detects one. Decentraleyes Minimizes or blocks content loaded from CDNs, helping reduce the number of requests you need to make and preventing CDNs from violating your privacy. Even supports Pale Moon, so you know the developer has a good head on their shoulders. Disconnect A bit sketchy based on the website, but effectively works to block arbitrary cross-site scripts which ping Google, Facebook, etc. Helps prevent being tracked by these behemoths when sites use their embeds. Container Tabs A real killer feature that Firefox should have upstreamed instead of garbage like Pocket. Allows you to open tabs with a container for cookies. Instead of having to open private browsing to prevent Google from spying on your other cookies, you just put them into a containment tab. Problem solved. >But there are other ways to identify you! Correct, but these are increasingly becoming the most common. But the user agent string is a common giveaway, as is screen size, operating system, and available fonts. But there are mitigation techniques which can be applied, and having the above will still make it more difficult to track you. Keep in mind, the more people running these countermeasures, the more everyone begins to look the same. So shill them to your friends and family. It protects all of us.
>>2169 Seems pretty decent. I was actually playing around with IceCat earlier and discovered Librewolf today. I hope there isn't some catch and it's secretly pozzed.
>>2201 >take a stroll through the site since I haven't in awhile >he has a page where he updates information about the webring including various drama His writing is also eerily similar to the writing style of niggerpill. Still good infotainment none the less.
>>2201 >click page on useful Linux software >recommends torrenting over Tor with literally who software What a nigger.
>>2224 He says in the excerpt that it's uncharted territory and likely not completely secure. Not sure what more you can expect.
>>2226 It's not uncharted territory, this has been discussed for over a decade https://blog.torproject.org/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea
What about Surf? Been using it for a day and I think its good for basic web browsing and editing if that's all you care about. So far as I can tell, it's pretty secure.
>>2258 Looks like it uses WebKit, so I doubt in the long run it's going to be any different than anything else using WebKit, which is pretty much any browser that is not Firefox (for now) or Pale Moon.
>What are your favorite addons and browsing tricks to protect your privacy? Share them here so we can all be a little safer. Fucking kys. How about how to get rid of bloat? Every fucking horse shit browser takes literally 10 minutes to start, another 1 minute to open a tab, and 30 seconds to switch between tabs.
>>2304 Sounds like you need a better computer :^)
>>2255 Most of this is just the tor devs kvetching about people slowing down the network. The actual risk of exposing your IP comes down to using incompetent and improperly configured torrenting software. There is nothing inherently wrong with torrenting over tor.
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>>1747 >I don't want to have to save and restore all my bookmarks, extensions, configurations, and whatnot. At bookmarks and logins are super easy to export and most extensions have a way you can export your configuration to a file as well. Overall it's not difficult or time consuming to migrate browsers. I recently went from brave back to firefox
>>984 Im using waterfox and it seems to work pretty well. I think im running an out of date version. My addons slow it down a lot sometimes
>>2940 Remember that Waterfox guy sold out a while ago. It's still good but it may not be so forever. LibreWolf got sort of revived and that's very similar to WaterFox: vanilla firefox with stupid telemetry taken out (LibreWolf actually does zero connections when started which is weirdly nice).
Something that looked up and figured out that I figure would be useful for some anons' activities. >make a folder somewhere >look for Chromium's shortcut >copy-paste it, go to the copy's properties > press space go to the Target field, then add: --user-data-dir= >to the end of the field, then add the directory of the folder, leading to its insides >Click okay, then start the modified shortcut copy You now have a separate instance of Chromium that seems completely separate from your main instance. I know that this works with Ungoogled-Chromium, but I imagine this at least works for any Chrome derivative. I imagine this is helpful for if want to be extra sure that if a browser tracks you, it doesn't get information that's connected to your main Chromium instance.
>>2980 You can do the same with Firefox and derivatives, you just create another session. I have my imageboard/lewd/random session, my email and IRL stuff in another, banking in a different one, and one for when I can't avoid browsing a site that doesn't have good reputation. Ultimately I don't think it does much in terms of preventing tracking, but it doesn't cost me anything and it keeps everything compartmentalized so if one session is compromised somehow it won't mix in with the rest.
>>2978 LibreWolf needs JS to download lol.
>I don't like that 20 tabs in firefox need 1 GB of RAM nowadays <HURR DURRRR DON'T YOU KNOW? UNUSED RAM IS WASTED RAM XDDDDD
What about browsers for phones? The options for android seem to be pretty limited. It's either chrome, firefox, brave, or opera. I've been using Opera simply because I perceive it to be outside the realm of the "big guys" but I might be totally naive in that assumption. In terms of functionality, I really like it, with the exception that it will often add a bookmark to my bookmarks section for some corporate website. Nike or TurboTax or BestBuy or just any other product/company. Which leads me to be suspicious that there might be other undesirable behavior going on behind the scenes.
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My Waterfox Classic installation is becoming increasingly broken because of not updating it in a very long time, and since I'm pretty much forced to upgrade I decided to take some time to analyze what the new version is doing since everything that's happened with it has made me a bit uncomfortable. I thought I'd post my analysis for others to see since I always see other Waterfox Classic users here so maybe it'll be useful to other people. The TL;DR is that the browser doesn't seem to do anything that the original Firefox wouldn't do, and that Waterfox (and the company that it's now a part of) doesn't seem to have added anything new and invasive to it, which is something that I'm happy to report. Overall, the biggest problem with the browser is some of its defaults and some of the things it'll do while updating, but I haven't seen it connect anywhere shady while browsing or when doing actions inside the browser (e.g. "(((analytics)))"). As mentioned, one of the biggest problems with the browser is updating. There's a shitload of things the browser "needs" to update, among them the browser itself, blocklists for several types of content such as webpages with malware and malicious addons, anti-tracking stuff, language packs, search engines, DRM (as in anti piracy) video libs, and probably other stuff I'm forgetting. I'm going to go over these in bullets. * The browser will come with self update enabled, but disabling it seems to completely disable the version check, which is what's expected. Honestly this is the least of the problems as it seems to just send a request to waterfox.com without any parameters or cookies, so it really is the minimum information required to update your browser, and again it can easily be disabled. * Playback of DRM media can be configured through the preferences pages, but even if you have it disabled the browser will still try to "update" these features for you, which involves downloading a fucking closed source anti piracy shared library from Google for no good reason. I think disabling general updates will also disable this request. The domain that gets accessed for this is redirector.gvt1.com. * Similar to the previous bullet, Waterfox will go fetch an h264 shared library that I imagine doesn't come with the browser. I didn't really dig further on this library because it's probably required by the browser for videos to work properly, but it's not a nice way of distributing libraries, and apparently this also gets disabled when you disable updating. The domain it gets the library from is ciscobinary.openh264.org. * Waterfox also comes with "safebrowsing" like every other browser but unfortunately even if you disable "deceptive content" filtering and regular updates, it will still go check with Mozilla (or Google if something goes wrong with the first alternative) for updated domain blocklists. Even if you turn everything related to this feature off in about:config, it'll still go check. The only workaround I found was removing the domains for the safebrowsing service so it literally has nowhere to go check (look up safebrowsing on about:config). * Moreover, Waterfox will go check for "tracking protection" updates even if you asked it never to use tracking protection and turn off everything related to this and the updates in the GUI and about:config. It makes a lot of requests for this, seemingly to block plugins and flash stuff, but it's not very evident as the response is just binary stuff. The domain it accesses is tracking-protection.cdn.mozilla.net. It seems for some reason that this can actually be turned off by removing the safebrowsing domains as mentioned in the previous bullet, even if the domain it goes check for this isn't in any of those keys. Go figure... * Because you can never have enough blocklists, there's an additional blocklist it requests which seems to be related to drivers, certificates, extensions, devices, and other stuff. There's no option in the GUI to disable this, but you can do it through about:config if you wish through the extensions.blocklist.enabled key. The domain it checks for this is blocklists.settings.services.mozilla.com, which you can also remove from about:config for extra safety. * In addition, Waterfox will check with Mozilla where your IP hails from, and it doesn't matter whether you have "Enable Geolocation" enabled. The information it gets is just your country's name and country code, but it still shouldn't be making that request. The domain it uses for this is location.services.mozilla.com. There doesn't seem to be any way to deactivate this. * As if this wasn't enough, Waterfox sends a shitton of requests to Mozilla to update every language pack that exists for Firefox, even if you don't have any of them installed, which is retarded but such is life. Much like previously there's no option to configure this check, so the only option is to add the domain to hosts (versioncheck-bg.addons.mozilla.org). * On top of all this, Waterfox does the captive portal check against Mozilla, where it basically makes a dummy request to a service to see if the browser has access to the internet, and this is done pretty often. This can easily be disabled in about:config though (network.captive-portal-service.enabled). Finally, search suggestions also come enabled by default so everything you type (no, seriously, everything) on your navigation bar gets sent to Microsoft (by default), however there's an option to disable this in the GUI. While this is less than an ideal list of issues, it doesn't seem out of the ordinary considering where this browser comes from, and as previously mentioned Waterfox hasn't added any spyware of its own. Most of the stuff it requests are lists so hopefully the real work with your information happens in your browser and doesn't go anywhere else, specially if you've configured the browser to not use those services, but at least safebrowsing I think does go query with the real URL to a Mozilla or Google service when it gets a hit on a local list "just to be safe", which is bullshit. To summarize, if you: * Disable search suggestions * Disable Geolocation * Disable Waterfox updates * Disable updating search engines * Remove urls for safebrowsing from about:config * Disable captive portal from about:config * Disable blocklists from about:config You're left with just the requests to the location service and language pack update service. You can then add those two URIs to your hosts if you wish, and then the browser doesn't make any requests whatsoever outside of those that are necessary to load the pages you ask it to. This is the release I tested: 99afdad5fdf3f82884e9f626e3de08392adbade6924d7292062745cacef68fdc waterfox-classic-2021.04.2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
>>1192 I don't have any opinion about the language itself, but it's surrounded by some of the most autistic shills that make Jehovah witnesses look tame. The sad reality is, if the language is so good like they claimed, why haven't Firefox be completely rewritten in Rust, and why did Firefox laid off their entire Rust and Servo team?
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>>2179 >Unless it's something like Ungoogled Chromium, which is basically just keeping up with Chromium with minor changes That's what LibreWolf is. They take Firefox's original source code, build it without shit like Pocket and the gay experiments, and add a huge .cfg file (file related) to disable everything that can be used to track you and that can be tweaked to your liking with any text editor. >>4160 >coming soon He has been saying this for years.
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>>4198 There's a roytam1 browser for XP called BNavigator that seems to be it.
This new Firefox UI looks terrible. Why do they keep making their browser worse? You can disable it with browser.proton.enabled for now, but who knows for how long.
>>4198 Can Librewolf let me save my zoom settings per site? My autism was not pleased and I didn't find any settings on the cfg file that would let me do it.
>>4319 I rolled back to Firefox 88 and don't think I'll go forward. The new UI is unusably bad, and they removed the "View Image" option from the context menu, which was a big win over Chrome. Why would anyone need "open image in new tab" to be on a right-click menu? That's what middle-clicking is for!
>>4319 Aside from taking up a few more pixels on the screen I don't think it's much worse than the old UI. Then again, I think that most browser UIs are bad. Why can't they just use native widgets of the GUI framework they are built on?
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So... What should I use for my precocity?
>>2272 Same for this browser I just heard about called nyxt, it's written in lisp and uses WebKitGTK. It seems as powerful as qutebrowser in function but should be faster by virtue of not being written in python. I haven't tried it yet but might be better to compile on my laptop, and it has emac/vim-like keybindings.
>>4319 The worst part for me is that it got rid of the "compact" mode that reduces the size of the top bar and saves some pixels. Fucking hell. >>4331 No idea. Can vanilla Firefox do that without add-ons? If yes, then ask on LibreWolf's repo about the settings for it, if no, then try with an add-on. >>4372 You should do some edging exercises or masturbate using other parts of your body aside from your dick.
>>4375 Yes, it's a default setting on Firefox. Zoom to 150% on random site #3, close browser, open again, go to random site #3 and it'll be 150%. Librewolf just disables that for some autismo about privacy I'm sure. Tried reading the docs for it and found the setting in a cfg file but it's marked as deprecated and does nothing when changed (blegh)
>>4374 The big gimmick of Nyxt is that since it is written in Common Lisp and includes a Swank server you can hook Emacs up to it and edit your configurations live on the fly. Try something out, write it to your init.lisp file and you are good to go. And since it is written in Common Lisp you can change pretty much any aspect of the browser, you are not boxed in like in other browsers. I have know about if for a while, but last time I checked (which was two years ago) it was still very experimental. I might give it a try now though. > and uses WebKitGTK. It can use both WebKit and Blink. Gecko is not supported though because Mozilla was retarded and made it practically impossible to embed Gecko.
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No wonder Firefox gets shittier with each release. >inb4 going to cuckchan
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>>4383 Why do the mozilla based browsers zoom so awkwardly compared to chromium, the pages get these deformed buttons and input fields. Maybe it's a GTK thing?


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