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Cyberpunk 2077 apology- Our Commitment to Quality Anonymous 01/13/2021 (Wed) 22:37:38 Id:b9d14b No. 205898
Didn't think we'd be talking about this game again but they must've realize how much they fucked up they had to make an apology video. I could probably ding it because it looks like he's reading from a script, but given how those working for CDPR shot their lips off from the hip and made the situation worse during the month of release of Cyberpunk 2077, I can kind of understand the approach. Marcin Iwinski, co-founder of CD Projekt Red, lays out I guess some of the issues. It was his and the boards decision that was at fault for the early release and not the developers which we already knew. The scope of the project was huge they wanted to go big on PC and adjusted it for "old-gen". Still using old-gen even though it's actually current gen and what most people can get available with how the next-gen is limited in stock and there really isn't a next-gen update available yet. Anyway, in-game streaming on old-gen didn't show issues at first but with each new addition, they had to adjust and thought they'd make Day Zero update which they did not. PC version wasn't perfect version of game but are proud of it. Because of working from home during covid and the Day Zero update, the console review keys were released on the 8th instead of early like PC (and not because "they were hiding how bad the console version was" is what I think he's implying). Update plans: Longterm support for Cyberpunk 2077 haven't changed. Next update in 10 days, and a significant update in the following weeks. They'll focus on the most important fixes and release the free DLCs after. The next gen update will release somewhere in the second half of 2021. It seems like they're trying to rebuild their reputation after wasting all those 25 years of trust built. With some of the schedule laid out (with no dates though), it's pretty clear they needed another 4-6 months to finish Cyberpunk 2077. I would've also dropped PS4 and Xbone versions and just aimed for a next gen release that might've come out a little later than PC version. It's a first step but we'll see if any other problems occur down the line.
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>>205898 I don't fucking care I'm just glad this mediocre piece of shit AAA game is out the door so that now devs can actually market and release their games, actual good ones.
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>>205898 After playing through it once this game might be one of the things that kills modern AAA in the long run. >>205912 >Fur shit pic related
>>205912 >saran Nice.
>>205898 Hope they will recover, Iwiński and the rest of CPDR aren't infallible but if they go under that'll just put more of the market in the hands of EA, Square Enix or some other utterly shitty corporation. Remember Nier: Automata? Bugs and bad performance on top of fucking Denuvo, paid DLC added without ever releasing any fixes. CDPR are at least going to fix bugs before DLC, and don't spit in your face by locking the game down.
>>205912 >agreeing with a heretic What has become of me?
If I ever get around to bothering to pirate it, I won't forgive them.
>>205946 Don't waste time playing bad videogames anon.
>>205954 The fuck else is there to do? But I haven't played this one and probably won't for a long while.
>>205962 >The fuck else is there to do? Wasting your time playing good videogames.
>>205963 >good videogames
>>205972 Yeah nah.
>>205977 i wish death upon not only the person who suggested this but also the voice actors
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>>205984 Already had long cat for Jormungandr
>>205930 The only game of theirs I played is Witcher 3, and it was so boring I stopped playing presumably less then half way through.
>>205977 >>205984 >>205993 What's wrong with this? Memes are the language of the internet, and it seems like a nice way to support the devs
>>205898 >Our Commitment to Quality They've proved they don't have one so fuck everything they have to say. You don't get to shit on the carpet, scrape it up and promise to do something about the stain and smell in 8 months time. Fuck em.
>>206062 Games, even MMOs are not 'the internet', forcing old IB memes into games is utter cancer and belies a severe lack of imagination and creativity on the part of their creator (some redditfaggot). Retards can't grasp the idea of leaving board shit on the boards, it's like some fucktard wearing a V for Vendetta mask in public and claiming they are the hacker known as anonymoose, they're both a goddamn embarrassment and that they don't realise it themselves makes it even worse.
>>205977 >>206062 >What's wrong with this? Memes are the language of the internet, and it seems like a nice way to support the devs Someone post the fucking trash that Nintendo's Treehouse put in Triforce Heroes.
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>>206139 Translators in US think players are retarded meme machines? It squares up with some of the evidence of that to be fair.
>>205898 The team is still comprised of fat women who pander to trannies, faggots niggers and other abominations, so anything made by them will still be shit no matter what they try to do. SJW games = failure.
>>205930 >utterly shitty corporation Like CDPR. >Remember Nier: Automata? It had a hot and beautiful white girl as the main character, and that automatically makes it superior to Trannypunk.
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PINNACLE W E W >>205930 Yeah, well, unlike Poleout 3.5, at least Nier Automata was a good game under all of the technical issues.
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>>206455 At least they didn't kneel to the dykes at twitter, checkmate!
>>205977 >Captain Claw I don't care about the Smite webm(because there are worse things in that game) but you're my nigger. >>205973 What kind of games do you like, anon?
>>206278 Are you really apologizing for Squeenix's buggy anti-consumer bullshit compared to CDPR's buggy anti consumer bullshit solely because of MUH DIK?
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>>205898 > I would've also dropped PS4 and Xbone versions and just aimed for a next gen release that might've come out a little later than PC version. lol, good luck getting sony and microsoft (and google after getting millions for a stadia release) to have pc out months first. who at this point even has a next-gen console? do you think scalpers gonna buy those ps5 versions? it's just pure incompetence, sleeping dogs came out in fucking 2012, CDPR has no excuse for that shitheap of a game, not after taking twice as long as most games do to develop and hyping the fuck out of it. cutting old gen wouldn't magically make the pc version bug free with good writing. >It seems like they're trying to rebuild their reputation after wasting all those 25 years of trust built. witcher 3 was a shitshow too and everybody started sucking their dick for some reason anyway, witcher 4 with ciri in 2025 would just make people deepthroat them even harder when everybody has long forgotten about cyberdung, because "gamers" are fucking retarded sheep. same way they keep EA and it's ilk in business. fuck most people moved on already, and it's merely a month out.
>>206557 >it's just pure incompetence, sleeping dogs came out in fucking 2012, CDPR has no excuse for that shitheap of a game, not after taking twice as long as most games do to develop and hyping the fuck out of it. cutting old gen wouldn't magically make the pc version bug free with good writing. While I'm not shitting on Sleeping Dogs or defending trannypunk Sleeping Dogs was also in development hell for years and was significantly less ambitious. To some degree that's actually why it worked anyway since the confused design of trannypunk being half GTA and half ARPG undoubtedly contributed to its failure. I'd compare it to something like SoC which was also made by slavs with previous experience in vidya, was also overly ambitious and was also announced far too early and constantly redesigned except it came out as a decent game which just needed a few patches for overblown, nowadays bugs vs trannypunk which even if you fixed all the bugs would still be fundamentally badly designed from a gameplay perspective.
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>>205898 >it's pretty clear they needed another 4-6 months to finish Cyberpunk 2077 6 months for squashing bugs maybe, but for the missing content no, ubitrash games have more meat on their bones and less poz than this abomination. >I would've also dropped PS4 and Xbone versions and just aimed for a next gen release that might've come out a little later than PC version. Why do tech illiterates keep parroting this, 80 percent of the problems come from badly implemented gameplay mechanics and physics engine, non existent scripts/AI for npc which is a staple for cdpr games and nvidia gamewrecks garbage (batman arkham knight anyone).
>>205898 >Free DLCs Like official mods? Shit that should have been in teh game from the beginning? >Free Next-Gen console update What, did they plan to make that shit non free? Have the goyim pay for a PS4-> PS5 port of Gayberpozz 2077, then offer them the actual PS5 version for another 60 bucks?
>>206605 >Have the goyim pay for a PS4-> PS5 port of Gayberpozz 2077, then offer them the actual PS5 version for another 60 bucks? That's what most companies did with the PS4 and Xboner.
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>>205977 I would rather stick the tip of my cock in a hornet's nest than play this shitty fucking game.
>>206608 My link isn't the webm turdwrangler
>>206605 There were never any plans to charge for the next-gen update.
>>206561 >significantly less ambitious. in what way? what does cyperpunk do (or wanted to do anyway) that couldn't have been done in sleeping dogs? nothing they promised was new or revolutionary, it was a shitload of content (classes, lifepaths, better story/world integration), not engine features. which is another thing, no one asked for another crysis to post bullshots with, from very early on they hyped up the RPG aspect they castrated more and more over time. no one wants or needs fucking 8k penis textures with raytraced balls. point it with all the time and money there's no excuse for the shit they released, over promised or not. even when they would've kept their mouth shut the game would still be mediocre crap on it's own.
>>206791 Really, Cyberpunk's gameplay and world would be really impressive had Morrowind not come out in 2002.
>>206800 Well said. I'll play a modded Elder Scrolls game over Cyberpunk any day of the week.
>>206791 When Cyberpunk 2077 works well it plays like a larger version of Saints Row 3 except you can not replay the side missions and has weaker character customization. Take that what ever way you want.
>>206800 The spell crafting system is more interesting than any of the systems in the game. There are no custom hacks. Now that would be something, chaining multiple subroutines together to make your own hacking agent that does whatever you want. Nah, too cool for modern Vista.
>>206882 >Vista I meant vidya, fuck
>muh the engine Just open source it and make it free, so people see reason to improve it or switch to CryEngine which is known to handle that shit aside from astronomical stuff like Star Citizen where they had to adjust it for the numerically giant spaces of nothing. Fucking Polacks. >the issues on console >just pretends the game is fine on PC The entire story is disgusting garbage, the save system and the engine can't handle the Todd Howard infinite items they put in and there are no flying cars or fast transport because the engine's streaming capabilities are garbage as he said himself.
>>206835 It doesn't even have side activities >Just open source it and make it free And every big nosed shareholder would drop them at the mere suggestion of it >switch to CryEngine They have an inhouse engine which means they don't have to pay money to any company >just pretends the game is fine on PC What bothers me the most, the game is on par with any Ubishit Open World game.
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>>206392 what is this? a shooter with American Football or rugby? I am confused
>>206791 >no one wants or needs fucking 8k penis textures with raytraced balls. Exactly. Going beyond Witcher 3 quality with current hardware is completely pointless. I don't think it will be worth it for the next 30 years. Just throwing infinite polygons or pixels at something, doesn't make it actually look good. There's a point at which they're just wasted even with your 8k monitor. And no, we won't make 16k monitors because human eyes see about 5k total.
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>>206791 >in what way? Sleeping Dogs was just your average GTA clone, but with Arkham combat and a gimmicky jump and slam while driving which I did enjoy. It didn't really do anything revolutionary, nor did it pretend, but the overall package was great. Cyberpunk on the other hand, promised to be this immersive RPG, in which you can tackle missions however you want, have different backgrounds and choices that will impact the story, wall running, atmospheric(like with the initial teaser) that will be the spiritual successor of Deus Ex, and not just GTA clone #23. Well it didn't turn out that way, and the overall package wasn't well received. >>206912 >pic related
>>206926 >but the overall package was great It's really meh, the best part of it is the art design and some of the writing is really good. The gameplay itself is so fucking stale though, 2010s fucked gaming dead.
>>206921 >Witcher 3 quality That game is ugly as shit.
>>206926 >not "not_this_one_retard.jpg"
>>206948 As I said, I liked the driving gimmicks, and it did help that I hadn't played any games with Arkham combat at the time I first tried Sleeping Dogs, so it didn't feel as stale, as it would have felt if I had played all the Arkham games prior. I also liked the city, especially the low income zones like the market, and the city looked great during the rain. All of these things are subjective, but I was arguing why this game was less ambitious than Cyberpunk, and in spite of that, turned out to be the better game.
>>206974 He let us all down with that one.
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>>205898 > I would've also dropped PS4 and Xbone versions and just aimed for a next gen release that might've come out a little later than PC version. Please, the game was announced in 2013. The PS4 and XBONE must have been the target platforms for most of development. Even if we assume they started "serious" development in 2016 after the Blood and Wine DLC that is still 4 years of dev time where they could have at most targeted PS4Pro hardware. Lets not forget they themselves initially targeted a 2019 release date, only later delaying it to 2020. No matter which way you slice it the game must have spent majority of its time targeting the old consoles, not the next-gen. What they should have done is to stick with the Witcher 3 engine and not bother with a new iteration of it for a console generation that was not even supposed to be out by the time they originally wanted to release the game and by the looks of availability its still not really out. The Redengine 3 already supported most of the features needed to make the game and was optimized for PS4 and Xbone hardware. The only real problem might have been cars but that is one element that in a worst case scenario can be cut. Its one thing to be forward looking but releasing games 2 years before hardware capable of running them is even properly in stock is just a plain fuck up.
>>206521 Yes. Putting niggers and trannies in a game instead of gorgeous white girls is infinitely worse than bugs and anti-consumer practices. I can always pirate the games. But once the games are pozzed, they are shit forever.
>>207022 Although if the bugs are bad enough or if the content is shallow or sparse enough it's also unsalvageable.
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>>205898 >Cyberpunk 2077 roadmap DLC crowdfunding campaign soon?
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>>207022 >Yes. Putting niggers and trannies in a game instead of gorgeous white girls is infinitely worse than bugs and anti-consumer practices. Yes. That is 100% correct Anon.
Please stop replying to Luciano.
>>207062 Impotent leftists can't cuck me
>>205898 >it's pretty clear they needed another 4-6 months to finish Cyberpunk 2077. Try 2 years, the Ai is non existent along with the police system. GTA3 had better Ai and that isn't an exaggeration.
the bugs were not the main problem 1) way too fuckin short 2) RPG elements are pure dressing, have no substantial meaning. 3) enemy AI are morons 4) Cops appear out of thin air 5) Romance options suck. Panam has a berserker personality, Judy has a better personality but the tattoos are shit. Besides that, it is GRIDS. You can tell the femoid termagants and trannies left their mark here. 6) Cars mean nothing. You can use one motorcycle the entire game and no bat an eye. 7) The world is empty as shit. 8) Character background means nothing. They just plain dropped the goddamn ball. How the hell do you spend years on one single thing and have so little to show for it?
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>>206912 >not knowing about the Lawbreakers autism saga You missed out on some hearty laughs
>>207311 >NaN% Umm, it's still in the green there, sweatie, so I do'nt think the game is as dead as you think? :)
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>>207324 Back to middle school you go
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>>207311 How did it fail with such diverse characters and not boring white guys?
Holy fuck that timeline imagining sticking to this game waiting for updates to come by quarter 2 and 4 of this year when you could move on with your life and not waste 60+ hours on a shitty dime a dozen rpg with a boring setting.
>>206926 I actually enjoyed Sleeping Dogs as it knew what it was and did it well.
>>207025 Not if mods and hacks solve the problem. >>207062 Stay mad. >>207290 By hiring leftards, women and faggot abominations.
>>207412 Everyone enjoyed Sleeping Dogs, anon.
>>207488 >Everyone enjoyed Sleeping Dogs, anon. Except those lying pieces of shits in Squeenix who in the likelihood of trying to hide their failures with FF13 and Final Fantasy 14, decided to say that Sleeping Dogs along with several other games from their Western studios "failed to meet expectations". RIP Sleeping Dogs, and farewell Wei Shen
Even with bug fixes this game will be boring junk.
>>207648 That's an even bigger waste of time than playing shit video games, actually. Fuck it I guess I'm pirating Cyberpunk now.
>>207673 >Learning dead languages >Productive
>>206791 >in what way? Sleeping Dogs is a fairly standard GTA clone with a few popular-at-the-time mechanics scattered in which was carried by a good setting/atmosphere, not taking itself too seriously and for a video game pretty decent writing while all the rest of it was just standard. It also broke with the trend of advertising itself by having a giant map with repetitive activities it did still have a few collectables and just went with a compact map that did what was needed. In some regards it's a bit like a modern take on why Vice City was good though obviously it didn't have to handle the same hardware limits.Basically nothing it was doing was either new or particularly difficult. >what does cyperpunk do (or wanted to do anyway) that couldn't have been done in sleeping dogs? Full RPG mechanics including the weapon system, branching storylines, a setting that has far less real world research to help pull off Sleeping Dogs team visited HK a ton, and in a way it's sad how they've captured that before it got fucked by mainland bugs and just far more content. It's also always harder to develop a game that's a genre hybrid which is what they promised/what people expected: the number of decent (A)RPG/FPS hybrids is pretty low all considered. >nothing they promised was new or revolutionary, it was a shitload of content (classes, lifepaths, better story/world integration) Also a larger map and more stuff happening in a given area. Wanting more stuff is still an ambition just a limited one. If you want a direct comparison Sleeping Dogs' shooting, particularly when you're in an on-rails car segment, is pretty bland almost by design since they knew it would be such a minor part of the game: they just slapped slow-mo onto it for the movie references and made it functional. Trannypunk has shit floaty shooting despite wanting to have good shooting both because of shitty engine work and because they tried to integrate a bunch of RPG mechanics into the game and needed then to make '10% damage to shooting people with pink hair but only on a tuesday' type perks feel meaningful by making the base damage so shit. One is developers knowing they don't have the resources/skill to do something special and consciously prioritising other strengths of the game for that attention (i.e. less ambitious), the other is a developer trying to do too much and then salvaging what they can before desperately shipping the game. The same could also apply to Sleeping Dogs' driving in general where they took very standard driving and added the ram mechanic because they didn't have a better way to make it looks cinematic. And again even with all this Sleeping Dogs still took a lot longer to develop than was planned and I'm not defending trannypunk for the devs biting off more than they can chew: that's on them it's just that Sleeping Dogs is a bad example as it knowingly took simple, existing ideas and put them into a polished final product. >>207567 It's almost always better for any sort of IP to die quickly nowadays than it is for it to be dragged out into a zombie franchise with an ever increasing % of shitskins and women added to try and make up for the actual fans who drift away.
>>206970 The overall texture and modelquality is good. I assume your post is related to the shitty saturation, lighting and effects in contrast to the prerendered as always E3 trailer.
>>205898 >https://archive.vn/vlWIs >Shortly after the image showed up on my Twitter feed, I walked into CD Projekt’s meeting space at E3 and asked the company about it. I sat down with the artist responsible for creating it, Kasia Redesiuk. She’s one of the art directors working on Cyberpunk 2077. >Redesiuk joined CD Projekt Red years ago to create concept art for Cyberpunk 2077. She would eventually go on to become the art director for both Gwent: The Witcher Card Game and Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales. Today, she’s responsible for all the in-fiction media in the environments of Cyberpunk 2077. That includes advertisements like this one, as well as branding for the game’s many megacorporations. CDPR shot itself in the face when it went woke and pandered to sjws and trannies. The flag was just the icing on the shitcake that is CP2077. That's not even covering how bright everything is for cyberpunk or how fucking awful the character models are. There are a shitload of bugs and teleporting cops. If this game sinks CDPR, then so be it. >>207290 >How the hell do you spend years on one single thing and have so little to show for it? CDPR lost a lot of devs in 2017, which meant that they had to hire amateurs.
>>209622 Never hire women, under any circumstances.
>>207707 >Sleeping Dogs is a fairly standard GTA clone and cyperpunk isn't? >Full RPG mechanics including the weapon system, branching storylines, a setting that has far less real world research to help pull off where? numbers on guns and pointless skill trees don't make a game an rpg, by that logic fucking borderlands is a better rpg than cyperpunk. >It's also always harder to develop a game that's a genre hybrid which is what they promised/what people expected: the number of decent (A)RPG/FPS hybrids is pretty low all considered. almost like there's a reason for it, and "it's haaaaaaaard" is a shit excuse I expect from a 6 year old, not a polish company that wants to be AAA so bad. >it's just that Sleeping Dogs is a bad example as it knowingly took simple, existing ideas and put them into a polished final product. that's my point. nothing cdpr promised was new either, it was just a lot of redundant content which is not economically feasible, while struggling to make it work in a new engine. you could tack on branches, "rpg mechanics" and other shit they hyped up in sleeping dogs just fine too, and probably still would've gotten a better game. in the end it means jack shit what they planned if they couldn't deliver, and that's what bit them in the ass.
It is funny how the term cyberpunk is now associated with shitty product among normalfags. CDPR not only killed their own game, and probably will kill their own company, but they managed to kill the meaning of the term as a definition of a genre. In many normalfag circles, "cyberpunk" now became a slang for disaster, mismanagment, deceit and overall low quality products. That is the biggest laugh produced by this trainwreck. Companies will stay away from refering to anything as being "cyberpunk" simply to avoid normalfags boycotting their products due to misunderstanding and misusing the term. "Good job", CDPR. Your employees are probably on the hit list of at least some higher up at places like EA and Activision.
Talk is cheap, all anyone ever does in this industry is bend over with their assholes in the air making apologies. Fuck off, you trash chink puppet pollacks.
>>209689 Same thing with the Wii U at the time. The misunderstanding of the name by normalfags alone made it a flop. But for cyberpunk, I prefer that way. Companies would just ruin the genre by inserting pozz into everything, from books, to movies, to games and so on. It is better that the genre dies, at least in the eyes of corporations.
>>209695 This, you know how much grief video games ere saved thanks to high profile flops like the Super Mario Bros and Street Fighter movies? If video games had caught on in Hollywood (beyond Uwe Boll and his schemes to defraud the German government) then you would have seen the medium fall to shit at light speed.
>>206970 Are you simply being a contrarian? In what way is the game "ugly as shit", it's graphics and design is better than the vast majority of modern games.
>>209699 True. In fact, you can pretty much spot the exact time that the industry accelerated its downfall by the time in which it got popular among the cattle. >>209732 >Good design >The generic, asset filled garbage that is The Witcher 3
>>209686 >It is funny how the term cyberpunk is now associated with shitty product among normalfags. CDPR not only killed their own game, and probably will kill their own company, but they managed to kill the meaning of the term as a definition of a genre. could be worse, imagine the game was what they promised, and from now one every retarded normalfag goes THIS ISN'T LIKE 2077 THIS ISN'T REAL CYBERPUNK to the point they think shadowrun and neuromancer are based on the videogame. the game bombing is better that way, least there's still some potential for someone to release good stuff. AAA always be mainstream catering drivel anyway for economical reasons alone.
>>207337 So what happened to Cliffy after all of his videogames fell through? Is he forced to suck dicks in the back of an Olive Garden to pay bills? I hope.
>>209686 >but they managed to kill the meaning of the term as a definition of a genre. Thank God. Maybe it'll take steampunk down with it. >>209695 Pretty much. The only way to preserve things is to ruin it for normalfags.
Such a massive fuckup it made CrowbCat come back after a year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omyoJ7onNrg
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>>209907 It really is a christmas miracle, huh? >This garbage heap received money from the polish government FUCKING WHY Why would *Any* government give tax payer's money towards entertainment like this? Even if it wasn't a flop, what the hell does this do for your average citizen? I guess it's still a better use of money than spending it on some government scam or bringing in rapefugees or whatever, but it shouldn't be happening at all >Limited edition had stickers in them Fucking stickers. Brilliant, was the target audience for their game small children or something? At least they didn't include neon keanu reeves socks >"Prefab missing" all-red square That's literally what fallout 3 did, they had missing textures end up as giant red exclamation marks. You *Really* don't want to get your game compared to modern day bethesda, especially if the game's state at launch borders that of F76's launch day >Literally all the gameplay footage This is even more pathetic than I thought. I think that segment where compares the game to ones who were made over a decade ago really sums up this entire industry, at this point >Always online Now that's a cherry on top, you can't play your single player game without the internet. Terrific >Game as a service Does that mean that this single player only game that always needs online to function has fucking microtransactions on top of everything else? >Lego City on Wii U has better open world AI than this trash heap Not gonna lie, that made me chuckle I'm gonna go to the store and get a few snacks. I'm not even halfway thru the video yet. What I wouldn't give to be the fly on CDPR's walls right now, they're going to be fucking crucified for this, not just by the courts but for making the polish government look like fools by giving funds to them. I assume it was supposed to be a "national pride" sort of thing, where cyberpunk was supposed to put poland on the gaming triple A map, kinda like witcher did, but all it did was made them look like retards for fueling this oversold disaster of a game with 7 fucking million dollars(isn't that like 3 times or more in their money?)
>>209953 Its not about money its about control
>>209907 Hi CrowbCat
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>>209956 But Control was made by Remedy
>>209953 >Why would *Any* government give tax payer's money towards entertainment like this? A lot of government have some sort of funds for various cultural and economic endevours. The idea is to give a leg up to some promising upstart in order to improve the culture or economy of the country. Usually there is some sort of contest where you have to present your idea, maybe some sort of prototype or design document to prove your are not just some idea guy. CD Projekt does have credibility after being a succesful publisher of PC games for Eastern Europe, having their own store, and three successful major games sold. Plus they probably had some playable demo. So it's not that out of the ordinary that they would be given funding, because who else is there that has any credibility outside of Poland? Of course in hindsight it's easy to see that the game turned out shit, but when all you have to go by is a name and a tech demo it's easy to fall to hype.
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>>209907 This video just confirms my long running suspicion that the game was effectively rebooted at least three times. Once when the tranny journos complained about lack of trans representation, once when they added in Keanu and once when they decided to make the game entirely 1st person. They have spent so much time redooing the game that they forgot to actually finish it. The whole BS excuse of "our testers did not catch these problems" is a straight up lie. There is no way they did not notice the game cannot maintain 30fps on base PS4, nor could they have missed the police spawning right behind the player or any other problem the game has. Those are not lapses in scripting or game logic, they are unfinished features. Oh, and lets not forget that they had a massive 30+gb day 1 patch and yet most of this shit persisted.
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After seeing the full video, I can say with confidence that Todd could not only design a better game from the ground up, as far as the story and the gameplay is concerned, but he could do it better from the TECHNICAL standpoint as well That's right, I think even bugthesda tests and polishes their games better than this. I've seen less jank in the early videos of F76 than this. I think the best one has to be the interactable fire barrel...that can be turned over or flipped to the side, but the fire is static and stays in the air. That really sums it all up, doesn't it? The whole game is a very poorly disguised facade of something that was never finished, and never will be finished. I've seen this game be advertised to hell and back. How much you think these Cyberpunk chairs and shoes and collectible figurines or dildoes be worth in a year's time? Will anyone even remember they exist by then?
>>209990 >>209995 This is what happens when PROGRAMMERS don't test their shit. I understand that testing technically takes a bite out of development time, but in general (competent) programmers tend to do risk assessments in their head while they are coding and bugfixing is generally easier when you're seeing the results as opposed to hearing it from some QA retard.
>>209995 I mean, not even Todd or Todd's minions ever went "Well, we tested it on last-gen consoles and it works for us, must be a you problem, despite all consoles being the same hardware." after people got up in their shit about testing.
>>209953 >This garbage heap received money from the polish government dude, you don't even wanna know what shit your government spends money on. adding money to some slavjank game is the least offensive option.
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Imagine overhyping a game so much and having the final product end up being so shit, motherfucking Crowbcat comes back from the dead just to shit on it in one of his longest videos to date. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omyoJ7onNrg
>>209907 Oh shit didn't see your post. My thought about it still stands. Holy shit that game is bad and whomever still thinks its good is lying to themselves.
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>>209907 >Starts comparing the game to Lego City Undercover
>>209907 >>210013 Why are modern games so much more glitchy than older games were? I know there's the issue of diversity hires mucking things up but it seems to go beyond that.
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>>210006 I'm not polish, anon. >>210003 Yes, I still can't believe that the company that couldn't even deliver on a promise of giving people a canvas bag or a proper looking nuka rum bottle is looking like the big boys here. What an absolute disaster. If CDPR is still in business and taken seriously after this point, I'm just done. If people can forgive something like this, and still beg for more, there is absolutely no hope for the modern day triple A gaming market
>>210036 scope and size increased as well, compare your average AAA game to just 10 or 20 years ago. >>210039 >gearbox still in business after DNF and alien colonial marines >ea still in business after spore, sim city, TOR and all their sportsball shenanigans "gamers" are retarded sheep with the memory of a goldfish.
>>210042 >gearbox still in business after DNF and alien colonial marines >"B-but muh Borderlands" >ea still in business after spore, sim city, TOR and all their sportsball shenanigans >"Ey ese, chu got dat FIFA?" >"Ayo nigga, you got summa finna dat Madden shieet?" >Not to mention Biodrones and Cuck Wars fans >"Jedi Fallen Order is a good game, I swear" Now you know why these companies stay in business.
>>210042 Wouldn't it just be better then for them to voluntarily choose to limit the size and scope so that they could concentrate their resources into making a smaller but tighter and better experience?
>>210036 >>210042 It's not just that, while before a game had to be released in a finished state or bust nowadays these fucking cunts release broken unfinished games, promise updates and normalniggers eat that shit up. Meanwhile GTAV is an incomplete mess and all the planned singleplayer DLC got scrappedfor microtransactions. Just stay the fuck away from anything relating to AAAshit.
>>210054 >a game had to be released in a finished state That's only half-true, plenty of developers released buggy pieces of shit back in the day; even some of the better ganess were bugged to shit. The real issue is that back then, releasing post-launch patches was way harder in comparison since you had to reprint the same game but with bugs fixed instead of relasing a file you could download and apply to your existing copy (this only applies to cucksole games, as PC games nearly always had the option for separate patches to be downloaded from their websites). Now that even cucksoles can do this, the process of finding said patches is automated, and more people have a decent internet connection that doesn't double as a phone line, it's become way more possible to get away with a shitty launch 'cause you can theoretically fix it all through post-launch patches. Combine that with the increasing complacency from gamers and normalfags and now you can basically make your own costumers into unpaid interns who'll fix your shit for you and they'll eagerly await for next pile of dogshit, a la the Bethesdafags.
>>210059 >plenty of developers released buggy pieces of shit back in the day And they usually sold like shit or were shat on very heavily. I still remember all the flak New Vegas and Battlefield 2 got at release.
>>210054 >Just stay the fuck away from anything relating to AAAshit. I pretty much have been, even if that might not be my original intention. It seems like that all AAA games from the past 10 years or so have had something that happens during production or shortly after release that dissuades me from getting them regardless of how much I might have been interested in a game at some point. The sooner that there is a bust in the AAA and AA market the better it is for everyone.
>>210070 >The sooner that there is a bust It's slowly walking towards that, most best selling games nowadays have been mid sized and big AAA projects keep making less and less money.
>>210006 >>209953 >This garbage heap received money from the polish government Actually the money is stolen from Germany through the EU in the first place. Where's my Crisis 4, you thieving polacks?
>>210072 Crytek is Turkish
>>210075 The Turks owning and ruining the company doesn't make all the developers into Turks.
>>210072 >Where's my Crysis 4 According to Cryteks leaked files it's in development. But why the fuck would you want that garbage? Crysis 2 and 3 were mediocre trash focused on consoles, especially compared to the first one/Warhead and according to the leakers they're going to push for the Battle Royal meme. After the massive fuck up that was the remaster and how many downgrades and pozz options they made for Hunt Showdown, why the fuck would you ever want Crysis 4? https://www.dsogaming.com/news/leaked-crytek-documents-hint-at-crysis-next-crysis-vr-ryse-next-robinson-2/ >>210075 I can understand you mixing up, but that's not true. Crytek is a German company created by Turkish immigrants. 3 brothers in fact.
>>210080 >Crysis 2 and 3 were mediocre trash focused on consoles, especially compared to the first one Don't forget Far Cry! And they have the best video game engine. Yet they fail so hard. It's really sad. Employees weren't paid on time for years too.
>>209850 >The only way to preserve things is to ruin it for normalfags. This. As soon as anything turns into an industry, instead of small business for the passionate only, it turns into shit. The fact that there were conventions made for video games was already an indicative of how bottom of the barrel things were.
>>209953 >making the polish government look like fools All governments are run by retards.
>>210102 >Don't forget Far Cry! I don't, but it's not their franchise anymore, it's Ubitrash. Crytek had so much potential and they completely squandered on following trends and sucking off EA.
>>209961 All of what you said sums up why hype and brand recognition are cancers that must be purged.
>>210080 >>210142 I don't, but it's not their franchise anymore, it's Ubitrash. And I was referring to FC1. >Crytek had so much potential and they completely squandered on following trends and sucking off EA. The potential is still there. It just has to be used. And while Hunt Showdown looks good I'm honestly not the target group for it. What even is the target group for that? Maybe they should have thought of that ahead of time. Interestingly the player count is still rising: https://steamcharts.com/app/594650
>>210042 >scope and size increased as well, compare your average AAA game to just 10 or 20 years ago.
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>>210059 >PC games nearly always had the option for separate patches to be downloaded from their websites Indeed. Comically broken games were pushed out even in the 90s due to this "we'll just patch it later" mentality. PigBald even made a comic making fun of it in December 19-fucking-98. >>210064 Depends on the specifics. Fallout 1 was released basically only two-thirds finished and quite buggy, and it was still loved even at release. Sold well enough to warrant a quick sequel, which also was buggy but successful. And then Interplay went full retard with spinoff ideas. Thing is, with janky games of old there normally was a quick explanation - tiny team, small budget, little time because the publisher cracks the whip - as to why the game was in a poor state. But underneath the pile of crutches there were bits and pieces that exuded charm and enthusiasm, so people ended up liking the game despite the issues. This could be the result of small teams being more cohesive, with plenty of direct communication between designers, artists, programmers and writers, so the outcome felt like a genuine team effort and a labor of interest from people invested in their work. Conversely, modern triple ayy studios oftentimes have branches and tendrils stretched across entire fucking continents and beyond, with people who have never even met each other working on the same project and communicating only online and even then through several layers of management. The right arm doesn't know what the left does. It's literally Big Corp culture, complete with crunches, cubicles, and everyone being easily replacable and acutely aware of it. This leads to an outcome where they create games that feel very dry, perfunctory and by the book, mindnumbingly mediocre; so when those games end up broken as fuck as well (because QA is not necessary to sell games), there's just no player community desire to bother with it, let alone fix it, since it's not a flawed gem, it's a dried up turd. Normalfags might be tricked by marketing into buying the game, but if it doesn't hold their interest, they'll drop it after 3 days and won't buy cosmetics, map packs, horse armor, loot boxes and other assorted forms of applied judaism that are supposed to be a significant part of modern AAA revenue. Big publishers will still be financially fine (EA has sports, Ubi has gubmint teat and so on), but irrelevant to most people who actually want to play games, as opposed to bitching about them on twatter.
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>demo faked and wasted even more development time, devs needs an extra 2 years.
>>207311 >we will never have that lawbreakers gamenight
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>>209907 >Lego games and Eurojank from 2002 both beat out GTA2077 I can't believe this was the game that made Crowbcat come out of retirement. Actually I can believe it, but I'm still surprised. This guy seems to be one of the few YouTubers who can break through to casuals and actually give a shit about the declining quality of the industry.
>>210310 *and actually make them give a shit
>>210314 since we're on the topic of lego games, was lego racers 2 any good? everyone played lego racers, but I never see anyone talk about the second one
>>210270 >poz To some degree poz is expected in any X-punk genera. Cyberpunk especially. On the other hand trannies and other modern day "gender identity" bullshit makes no sense in the setting since characters should have hot swappable multi sized and shaped dragon dildos for every day of the week. In such a setting anyone but the poorest should be able to change physical identities like how modern normalfags change fashion.
>>210314 I honestly think 90% of the effort went into the assets, demos and CGI trailers. Morrowind was made in six years, Deus Ex was made in two by 20 people. Cyberpunk had a staff of over five hundred for eight years. I can't see how hundreds of at work during 8 years of development lead to something that shallow and streamlined.
>>210321 >Deus Ex was made in two by 20 people. No fucking way.
>>210321 Fallout: New Vegas was made in 18 fucking months and was less buggy at launch with far more content. There is zero excuse for Cyberpunk to be as bare bones and broken as it was, the development must have been a disaster. The only thing I can think of is a TF2 situation where it got scrapped and rebooted several times during development.
>>210322 It was.
>>210279 >demo faked The pandering makes sense in light of this information. The devs knew it was shit, but the suits still needed an audience to sell it to. I'm just surprised they didn't add a bunch of furry shit. There are a lot more of them than trannies. >>209907 >open world I don't think it is worth it. Just look at how barren MGSV was, and how buggy CP2077 is. >Patrick Mills >muh metrics Fucking suits. What they don't seem to understand is that those players are fair weather players. They don't ever form a core audience. It's obvious that all of those devs knew the shit they were in when asked if the game was going to be ready by release. >>210054 AAA is garbage. Hopefully, the failure of CP2077 causes people to question AAA gaming.
>>210321 >>210322 >>210324 You guys ever heard of Brooks's law? I'm paraphrasing here, but it roughly goes "the more people working on software, the longer it takes". There is no way a team that big can efficiently organize or communicate. Jason Schreier released an article recently exposing CDPR not even having mechanisms in place for developers to figure out if something had already been done, so you'd have people working on their own builds of the game all having different plugins doing the same things. >If someone needed a shader, they'd make it, with no pipeline in place to determine whether someone had already made one w/ the same function - https://archive.is/Fjrtc I don't think I need to state how inefficient an environment like that would be, a feature that might take a day to implement could take over a month because you'd have five incompatible builds with different dependencies that need to be merged. Ironically, it probably would have been completed faster if it had LESS developers. That level of individual freedom doesn't work with that many people, and I imagine it's a relic from their older days when it was a much smaller studio. Shawn Layden, former PlayStation head, said every with new generation the cost and time of video game development doubles. He stated this was "just not sustainable". Alex Hutchinson, director of games like The Sims 2 and Assassin's Creed III, said the same thing in 2012, going as far to say AAA games were acting as a "cancerous growth" that will eventually die out. - https://archive.is/eIdNF Cyberpunk 2077 is the embodiment of all these things. Too many people, too wide a scope, too big a budget, too little planning and too many years in development. It accidentally acts as a point-for-point case study on the problems of modern AAA development.
>>210321 > I can't see how hundreds of at work during 8 years of development lead to something that shallow and streamlined. Not only is it because the shit game "we" got wasn't necessarily the probably decent game they started to make at the start, but large teams don't necessarily make even deeper and complex games. Or at least, they can, but it would require a very tightly run ship, and smaller teams would likely have an easier time getting communication down, due to being in the same location and having little-to-no middle management between employees. It helps that bonds typically grew and workmates actually grew into workmates in smaller companies. >>210331 > Hopefully, the failure of CP2077 causes people to question AAA gaming. I doubt it, the only way I see normalfags waking up is to unfuck the roots of the problem, which are outside of gaming.
>>210329 Yeah that struck me as well. >We want you to see this whole story. The very reason why so many modern games are shit.
>>210321 >Cyberpunk had a staff of over five hundred Polacks for eight years. Barely out of communism and already lazing around at work again. Jokes aside that's probably how it was. They made fancy Power Point presentations showing their progress and all this work culture stuff and didn't actually work on the game. We all know how it goes from computer science classes in school. And then when they noticed the deadline and that they weren't finished at all they had to do crunch for months, just like school children. Or white niggers.
>>210339 Why is it so much easier and cheaper to make hours worth of high quality bullshots than it is to just like make the game? Not just talking about Cyberpunk 2077 either.
>>210337 >The very reason why so many modern games are shit. Pretty much; a lot of modern game writers have an issue with you missing shit in their game's world, either deliberately or no. So they do all sorts of infuriating bullshit so that their writing "doesn't go to waste", which is typically a moot point 'cause a lot of the time their writing is shit, and a good writer for a game world also realizes that a player missing some of the lore because the fact that the player bashed in the brains of an important NPC actually works in the game's favor (because it helps make it feel like you're in a place that has similar weight to shit in real-life, and not some overpriced digital rollercoaster). There's a conference from a shitstain who worked on Fallout 4 who admits this, point-blank: https://invidio.us/watch?v=Bi51-wjcwp8 Don't know specifically where, so you'll have to do some clicking around to find it.
>>210329 >noooo, the length of the story is the problem not the shitty writing That statement alone reeks of retarded devs that like to smell their own farts
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>>210364 Oh, forgot to mention some of cdpr devs like to self-insert, imagine the egos on this cucks kek
>>210347 It's what they were trained to do. Hence my computer science analogy. >>210359 I wish they'd still make games where I'd get to decide anything at all. Not just which retarded not fitting together clothes I wear.
>>210361 >Probably just a coincidence since women are exactly as capable of grueling creative work as any man on average, of course, but it does strike me as odd that almost all of CDPR is women and trannies >https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html Things tend to quickly fall apart when women become the majority. Trannies aren't known for being stable either, so they're likely worse. >>210373 >devs like to self-insert It reminds me of DMC.
>>210380 It's not women themselves, it's more that women are generally more subverted than men overall, at least in the west anyway.
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>>210339 Reeves didn't even get involved with the game until 2018.
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>>210153 >And I was referring to FC1. So was I, but the whole fucking franchise is theirs >The potential is still there It's not, they want the cucksole and AAA audience super hard and the majority of employees are gone. >>210310 The guy is a cuckchanner/ex cuckchanner from /v/ and has some good editing skills and some autism, that's all it takes. The amounts of merchandising at the end of the video truly saddened me. Pathetic, the state of this hobby and media.
>>210380 >It reminds me of DMC I don't see Itsuno or Matt Walker in the game.
>>210394 I'm very familiar with who Crowbcat is, anon. I remember his old now-deleted videos before he became a "serious" channel.
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>>210397 pic related >>210388 >women are generally more subverted than men overall Very true.
>>210409 oh, you meant DmC. my bad
>>210394 Crysis is literally Far Cry 2 while avoiding to violate the trademark by changing the name. >It's not, they want the cucksole and AAA audience super hard and the majority of employees are gone. Maybe you're right and I'm being too optimistic about it.
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>>210415 >I guess the women that aren't like women will be good devs. Not really how it works, women usually fall faster and cave into peer pressure. Doesn't mean that the ones that were there before it becoming mainstream would be ok with sacrificing creative integrity so some retard could push his own bullshit. The issue with the industry is that it started getting infested with locusts and sharks with only an eye for the success that videogames had and not the creative endeavor that it is and should be. Look at Cuckmann and Amy Wennig Amy had a career before going into Naughty Dog, Cuckmann got a role on Naughty Dog because he sucked off the founders at several conventions.
>>210334 >Several people were working on several individuals builds of the game >At the same time >Many likely having redundant additions in each build How the hell are random autists on the internet, who don't even get paid or ever meet in the same room together, able to unite and work on a project of some kind, and yet triple douchebags like CDPR that gets paid by the polish government can't figure out which end of their body their ass is? >Relic of the older days, when the studio was much smaller So you're saying that they got a whole bunch of diversity hires, and despite that, they didn't implement any new policy changes, to compensate for all these new people?
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>>210428 >Crysis is literally Far Cry 2 while avoiding to violate the trademark by changing the name. Very true >Maybe you're right and I'm being too optimistic about it. Anon, every Crytek fan has shat on them and even normalfags shit on them constantly. They do not have a vision outside making it big, the founders have their head lodged extremely far up their ass, they're living off German government gibs and their latest videogame was only a success because it looked good and as soon as they saw a chance they dumbed down the visuals and made an Xbox One port. It's fucking fucked, EA turned them into pure garbage and they haven't put out anything good in 13 fucking years.
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>>210445 >Shitting on the sound designer for System Shock 1/2 >Shitting on Shodan <Muh womyn Kill yourself
>>210456 Acting like a /pol/faggot edgelord doesn't make you fit in any better.
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>>210462 he's probably that guy that just got outed as a newfag and sperged out for an hour straight. what a sad existence >>210373 >first pic is this what his ideal look is? it still looks like a tranny also, self inserts aren't always a bad thing. sometimes, they save time or money that could be better used elsewhere don't forget that pretty much every major character in max payne was modeled after someone around the office, for example, and now, sam lake's face has become one of videogaming's icons self inserting because you have an ego or want attention is always faggy, tho
Can you guys cut it with the unironic incel shit? It's embarrassing. >>210442 Smaller teams are much better organized due to their size. >So you're saying that they got a whole bunch of diversity hires, and despite that, they didn't implement any new policy changes, to compensate for all these new people? I wouldn't necessarily say the people CDPR hired were "diversity hires", but yes, they seemed to still have the same mentality even after becoming a AAA studio. Having no cohesive vision also doesn't help.
>>210324 >Fallout: New Vegas was made in 18 fucking months and was less buggy at launch with far more content Not a fair comparison, since the engine had already done by Bethesda, as well as several assets and AI/mechanics they would just slightly adjust. Not saying that Obsidian, didn't make their own assets, nor that they didn't add new code to the engine, but the hard work had already been done by Bethesda. A better comparison, would be how long it took Beth to make Fallout 3, and apparently they started working on it after releasing Oblivion, so approximately 2 years of development, but even that isn't perfect since this was 2 console gens ago.
>>210503 Considering how easy it is to mod those games, and the fact that the engine was still stable during that console gen, I'd say yes.
>>210503 CDPR already had a fnished and running engine. REDengine 3 was used for Witcher 3 and was fully functional and capable of running on both PC and consoles. They could have easily modified it and used it , instead they decided to make a new engine that apparently was optimized for a new console generation that was not even a fucking rumor in 2012.
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>>205898 >Watch the video >Get this intense feeling that I'm being lied to Man, that Polish fudge packer has a punchable face.
>>205898 I do body language studies to better understand people's emotions and read liars. Couple of interesting facial cues in just the first few seconds before he "puts on his face". He has a couple of defining features that are hard to spot individually that tell you his recent history. >light creases between the eyebrows, meaning he's been often furrowing his brow, which is a sign of negative emotions like sadness, stress and anger, this is recent, about a year or two's time. >Heavy creases beside the mouth and nose, the "laugh lines". In other words, it shows that he smiles a lot. <HOWEVER he has no creases on the edges of the eyes, and genuine smiles from unconscious moments of happiness involve squinting the eyes during a genuine smile as an unconscious reflex, so a man his age should have creases called "crow's feet" near his eyes, and he does not, which means his smiling is fake. >Unknown faded scar on left cheek, signifying an accident or some sort of violence. And the most worrying crease, or rather, lack of crease >No creases on the forehead when his eyebrows are up. >Eyebrows slanting upwards show expressions of fear and sadness, negative, sorrowful emotions of submission/despair. >The fact that there are no creases on his forehead while his eyebrows are in a sorrowful expression means he has, from birth, been sorrowful his whole life <HUGE FUCKING RED FLAG Next, the most important feature, the eyes >wide open, almost showing eye-whites at the top, most people's eyes when relaxed are half closed >combined with his eyebrows this signifies great fear The thing is that there's different facial expressions for dreading fear (long term fear) and immediate fear (short term), meaning whatever he's fearing is close to him and is ready to "strike". He's outright lying, of course, anyone can see that as well. But holy shit, this man is a disaster. Nothing about his facial expressions or body language suggest anything good, which is rare.
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>>210706 >This entire post
>>210711 I mean humans have universal body language no matter the race, do you expect people to not be fluent in it? Even animals share the some of the same cues as well. I'm just writing it down instead of doing it by heart.
>>210714 I'm talking about dogs you dingus. Besides, the body language for both happiness and fear are universal, though there are minor differences between cultures for other emotions due to societal pressures.
>>210712 Lie to me is a show about detecting lies by facial cues
>>210706 >The fact that there are no creases on his forehead while his eyebrows are in a sorrowful expression means he has, from birth, been sorrowful his whole life I assume there was suppose to be a never in here? >>210715 >I'm talking about dogs you dingus. Even birds and such have similar facial expressions once you know what you're looking at.
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>>210706 >he has, from birth, been sorrowful his whole life He's a Slav. That comes standard with the vodka, Adidas tracksuits and squatting.
>>210706 >HOWEVER he has no creases on the edges of the eyes, and genuine smiles from unconscious moments of happiness involve squinting the eyes during a genuine smile as an unconscious reflex, so a man his age should have creases called "crow's feet" near his eyes, and he does not, which means his smiling is fake. Not that it necessarily contradicts what you've said (it's still weird he has no crow's feet, and overall he absolutely looks terrified) but by the way: apparently most people can fake a genuine "Duchenne" smile. https://archive.vn/6tlYr https://archive.vn/DW49q
>>210734 I'm glad that those woke freaks are destroying their health overworking in their failed propaganda. They deserve to suffer every second of their lives.
>>210784 Leave it to a Tornigger to say dumb shit and not understand the bigger picture.
>>210788 He's been making dumbfuck posts for awhile now, ignore him.
>>210788 Please be patient, he's from Brazil.
>>205898 >they must've realize how much they fucked up they had to make an apology video Anon... I...
>>210784 >>210788 >>210789 >>210793 He's right though. CDPR went full woke a few years ago. At least in Poland.
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>>210798 >new ID <he's right!
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>>210802 Just joined the thread. Rarely active here anymore.
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>>210798 They shouldn't even be in Poland anymore.
>>210805 They financed the German puppet's political campaign. Oh and they support abortion 'rights'. LGBT pandering too. And also BLM pandering for some obscure reason(only a few retarded students cared about that here)
>>210805 >the amount of lies in that second pic Sure wish it was actually like that. Anyway, just came here to shit on CDPR. >picrel shows why anyone buying this game was a retard
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I wonder if the Witcher 3 was ever downgraded at all and that original trailer was faked as well.
>more politicsperging
>>210809 Of course it's faked. Marketing for a video game is all smoke & mirrors now.
>>210809 I think it's a safe bet to assume everything you see in an E3 is faked in some capacity. Unless you yourself are playing the demo it's bullshit.
>>210865 >Unless you yourself are playing the demo it's bullshit. Even then it's probably still bullshit. Aren't a lot of those "hands on" demos specially made for presentation and are often running on specialized hardware?
>>210872 I meant a demo like last years Steam's/PC gaming show's e3 showing. Just about every game shown in that presentation also came with a (limited time) demo. If there's one good thing that happened about the mainstream vidya industry last year is that there is the beginnings of embracing demos instead of trailers. Yes they're still fewer than they should be and them being limited time is bullshit but it's a start.
>>210875 Oh you mean like what Nioh 1 and 2 did. Yeah I'm glad that those are making a comeback too.
>>210808 that is what you call a tranny takeover. trannies and feminists ruined the game.
>>210036 Compared to the 90s and most of the 00s, you have less skilled, experienced and in most cases, talented people working on game engines that are progressively more technically complicated and usually not designed by them. Combine this with strict deadlines informed entirely by marketing and you get poor results every time.
I have never seen such a failed launch when you take everything into the account. Length of production, amount of people working on the game, hype and advertising, history of the company. Hell, they even got money from the fucking government. And then, this turd comes out.
>>211052 This is what investor meddling does to a company. Image someone with barely any knowledge of vidya or how to sell it doing business decisions for you out of trends and personal bias. That's what going public intakes
>>210809 Witcher 3 was boring. Probably why they added so many sex scenes to keep normalcattle playing
>>211217 I would not say boring but bloated and poorly paced. Most of the main quest revolves around following in Ciris footsteps, which usually lead to fucking nowhere and are far less interesting than the side stories associated with them. In fact the search for Ciri is presented as this really pressing matter but even if you only speedrun the main quest(which is borderline impossible due to level requirements) it still looks like Geralt only barely gives a fuck about her. Then the narrative takes up at mach speed and in a span of like 5 hours you have saved the world and the multiverse as a whole. This is what people mean when they complained about the game being too long and why Blood and Wine was so praised. It cut out most of the bloat and had a story with some actual pacing and sidequests that did not feel like they were there to impede the main quest. It becomes boring as a side effect of this poor structure. Although the completely stale enemy roster and terrible skill tree help to facilitate that as well. >>210373 >>210364
>>210373 >first pic I was wondering if that character was tranny inspired when I first saw it, that man-jaw and cheekbones put me off immediately.
>>211336 To me it looked like my granny with lots of make up. (not that my grandmother would wear that much)
>>211231 >Blood and Wine >good The only reason blood and wine was "good" is the boring to bad main story, when you put a mediocre thing next to a turd of course it looks good, that said I've read tentacle porn doujinshi with better narrative structure than what cdpr peddles.
>>210321 A bunch of fat rainbow haired dykes don't get any work done, color me shocked
>>210788 >>210789 >>210793 Leave it to Discord trannies to worship companies. >>210811 Yes. Get used to it.
>>211090 >This is what investor meddling does to a company. most investors just want to make a return on their investment, all is well as long as the company makes money. publishers are a much bigger scourge in that regard. >>210321 >>211421 while pozz certainly contributes, how do you think they got into the company in the first place? shit like this is always a management fault (where a lot of of diversity hires end up because they suck at the hands-on jobs). first for letting shit people join, then not getting rid of them, on every level of the company. that's why you can have the most efficient team on the planet, when the order comes from above that they suddenly now want first person or focus on big chungus keanu, which means throwing out half the game if not more, it doesn't really matter.
>>211359 Oh no, the main story is not bad or boring, its stupid and feels like it was written by an intern. The whole Ciri thing is a more retarded retread of what happened with her in the books. I say more retarded because already the original book story was retarded. It even shares the same pacing issues of being essentially dropped in at the last moment. Basically in the books its the same shit with the Wild Hunt wanting Ciri because her powers might let them hop dimensions better but they are slightly smarter about it and do not intend to sacrifice her to hop worlds but instead the elven king wants to put some babies into her to propagate the gene. However the king cannot get it up properly and so he never succeeds and Ciri runs away with the help of some unicorns. A lot of BS follows until Ciri essentially fucks off to hop dimensions because the wild hunt cannot follow her fast enough because of some limitation that she does not have. The white frost was never presented as anything else but a natural disaster(like the sun dimming or planets getting further away from it) that is merely missinterpreted by oracles and mages as something more. It was never presented as the final boss of the Witcher universe that only Ciri can beat. So of course Witcher 3 makes her the cape shit hero, pretends that she did not basically spent several of her years as a deranged bandit lesbo whore and now the elves are going full retard to repeat what they already failed to do once. It becomes even dumber when you consider that they can somehow physically move entire armies between worlds(the books implied they can move only a couple riders and even then they are not fully corporeal) but refuse to use this to save evacuate their own people. Ciri is also a giga tard as she is willing to risk sacrificing herself against the white frost not even knowing if she can beat it without leaving an offspring behind. And... well there is so much more wrong with the story but trust me "being boring" is at the very bottom of that list. Worst part is that it feels like a last minute change. The first two games did not even bother mentioning Ciri and for good reason, her story was over and she was literally in a different dimension. In fact the first game implied with Alvin that Ciri might not be the only one with elder blood and that maybe she is not the ultra mega special savior of the the multiverse. The first two games seemed to have realized that they need to do their own thing and not repeat already concluded plots from the books. Even most of the Witcher 3 storylines (Red Baron, Whoreson, Mage hunts etc.) are mostly written in a way that does not involve Ciri whatsoever. Everything about her implementation just feels half-assed and half-baked right down to her fighting style. I am assuming that she was not meant to show up whatsoever in the original script but was showed into in at the last minute for whatever reason and most CDPR fanboys are too dense to recognize a shoe in when they see one. The only good thing she contributed to the game is the subsequent porn.
>>211651 >but instead the elven king wants to put some babies into her to propagate the gene. However the king cannot get it up properly and so he never succeeds and Ciri runs away with the help of some unicorns. Wow, it's even more retarded than in the game. I'm glad I stopped reading after the second book.
>>211664 The short stories are the only thing of value that Sapkowski has ever produced, to be fair, even if they're half-vodka fever dream after reading slavic children's books, and half Elric ripoffs.
>>211424 >not delighting in the unmaking of some faggot makes me a Discunt tranny Once again, Torniggers prove they're either mostly retarded or baiting. It's been a fucking while since I've seen one that isn't a witless retard who tries to be edgy.
>>211668 Please do not feed the Luciano, he's been having a real hard time since there's nobody left in OAG comment sections.
>>211651 >TFW Siegfried got Sidelined by ciri and the best Friend/Companion in the entire franchise. Gets Regulated to one sentence mention >TFW the Werewolf Guard Vincent you saved was scraped from the main storyline >TFW Radovid had justifications for purge the witches since they are the ones who caused the fucking Assassinations from the 2nd game and retconned it to him being a mad king Honestly Ciri should be deleted from the entire game and should be Centered either Radovid unites the Northerners along with Jon Natalis to bitch slap the emperor or side with Nilfgaard for the lols
>>211670 Nichegamer is now the dumping ground for OAG rejects but even I think there is a limit to how annoyingly stupid one user can be.
>>211664 Honestly beside the last two books( or only the last if you can tolerate some level of BS) the books are fine, great even and I recommend reading them. However the last two feel like Sapkowski wrote them while drunk as shit. In the last two books Ciri essentially becomes a total Marry Sue with no real flaws whatsoever, everything she touches she is good at including both witcher training and magic. She even invent ice skates on the fly and immediately masters them to a level where she can fight with them, in fog and against a guy who has been know for owning Witchers. Her flaws, like the period where she was cocked-up lesbo bandit, are either ignored or turned into some weird benefit instead of a con. There is a good reason why no one talks about the book finale. Even the most ardent Witcher fans know its shit and prefer not to talk about it. >However the king cannot get it up properly Its actually more stupid than that. The king cannot get it up so hard that Ciri escapes because he overdoses on his own viagra and falls unconscious. That is however not the best part. You see the elves have put a curse on Ciri that prevents her from running away by looping the space around her, meaning no matter how fast or long she runs she will always loop around to the same place. Minor problem is that said spell does not work in water, so naturally the retards gave her full freedom of movement in their main city build on the banks of a fucking river, thus making their own counter measure wholly ineffective. >>211675 It honestly feels like she was added in like the last 6 months of development. Most of the content surrounding her is either blatantly unfinished or there is barely any of it. Like the Crones who she is dedicated enough to kill but not enough to pursue the final one after she took Vesemir's medallion. In fact if we had proper editing tools you could effectively mod her out of the game with relatively minimal changes as only the very last chunk of the game is actually structured around her personally. > Radovid Yeah, this is probably the worst retcon of Witcher 3. He was previously presented as a callous but reasonable king. In W3 he is a retard who wants to purge all witches which should realistically be impossible as magic users in the Witcher universe are like small demigods, not the fireball spamming cucks of WoW. Realistically if he tried it he would be vaporized before the first witch was burned. Not to mention how this weakens him against anyone that does not hunt witches.
>>211622 >that they suddenly now want first person Was it originally 3rd person?
>>211737 Initially it seemed to be like Deus Ex Human revolution, but after they promised full character customization for the trannies they probably realized that it would not work because of misaligned animation rigs and had to redo the whole thing in 3rd person.
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>>210706 could you analyse this face?
>>211737 there's a rumor it started out as third person, or at least a mix. and even if not you'd still have to rig it up enough for the cutscenes and stuff. besides, what's the point of cosmetics if you never see those? there are mods out there for third person, but it's a fucking shitshow since you're basically t-posing the whole time, if the animations doesn't spazz out completely because they didn't really set them up. >>211738 >misaligned animation rigs not really an issue, if bethesda of all people manage to do that shit, there's no excuse. simply hide/disable parts of the model you don't see (but it's still easier and cheaper to just use one and "fix" it via position etc.)
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>>211749 >if bethesda can do it Motherfucker, compared to Cyberpunk, in technical, design, balance, worldbuilding and fucking RPG aspects, Bethesda games are downright masterful. It's like ubisoft and bethesda were fighting on the bottom of the garbage bin, and fucking CDPR cratered down there so hard they went all the way to fucking garbage China.
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>>211748 >this face? Irresistible.
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"CD Projekt now faces two class-action lawsuits filed on behalf of its own investors" https://archive.is/yKLow They deserve everything their getting for pulling that shit. As you know devs nowadays like to put out unfinished games then say "im sawee" and then make a quick couple million off of it, but this time it went way too far, it was like a bad social experiment to see how much they would be able to get away with when releasing a broken fucking unfinished game to the public. I hope CD projekt crashes and burns because of this shit.
>>211773 There is no need for them to crash and burn. What needs to happen is for them to get enough of a slap to the face that other companies will be deterred from releasing half-finished alphas and openly lying to the public in their marketing.
>>211749 >if bethesda of all people manage to do that shit Bethesda are still using a decades old engine that they slowly add new shit on top of: the hard work was done back in the days when the industry was full of innovation and people hired autists who worked overtime willingly because they loved what they did. Nowadays all talent has been driven out of the industry and HR won't let you hire autistic white males so it's impractical for anyone to start from scratch.
>>211794 The engine isn't (entirely) the problem, it's that Bethesda has shit programmers' a decent amount of newer shit using the GameBryo engine came out, and I've heard nowhere near any sort of severe issues like Bethshit games do.
>>211753 Skyrim at the very least has Endreal as a total conversion mod which I assume is more than 2077 will ever amount to being.
>>211806 To be fair, Skyrim, like most Bethesda games, is very easy to mod, and was designed with this feature in mind, something that most other AAA games, including Cyberpunk and Witcher weren't. Now can mods fix a fundamentally broken game? I'd say no, and worse it creates this impression that you don't need to release a working game or even a game that as many options/features as the previous one, because "mods will fix it" and this mantra will be repeated by normalfags, which makes me worried for how TES VI will turn out to be.
>>211815 > Now can mods fix a fundamentally broken game? I wasn't claiming Endreal did so, I'm just saying Skyrim at the very least produced something nice. It's such a shame how very few modern games seem to be moddable. I loved how Hollow Knight seemingly had everything from kaizo hacks to reskins to an AK.
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You guys know that new Crowbcat about this game? Apparently a lot of communities on leddit keep removing it, giving completely bullshit reasons like "Uh it's off-topic" or "We don't allow humor videos". I wonder if this is just fanboy shit or genuine damage control? Over the past few years it's hard for me to deny that gaming moderators on websites act so strangely and against the community.
>>211822 It's fucking reddit, it's social programming at it's worse
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>>211822 >video was posted 23 hours ago >post was deleted 23 hours ago >meaning within 60 minutes it gained almost 2000 comments, 5400 upvotes and over 20 awards They were quick to shut it down, weren't they? The video probably would have reached millions of people via reddit had they let it get farther. >that bullshit excuse to remove a video showing the blatant lies and false marketing of CDPR and the gaming media's complacency to go along with it until it was inconvenient Couldn't have casuals realizing they'd been duped and lied to, eh? Fucking reddit. I don't think those mods are shills, just white knights for the industry. A lot of people in those positions actually have this mentality that they're the only thing protecting those poor innocent little devs from "the gamers". Can't hold multinational, multibillion dollar corporations to account, oh no. That's not Keanu Reeves Wholesome 100%!
>>210706 This is their first time pulling off EA type shit so they aren't used to it.They know they can get sued by investors and they have a pending check from the government fair competition agency and probably a surprise audit for making Poland look bad He is probably scared of loosing stock or going to jail.Big tech comapnies know they cap get slapped with 10/100 milion fines and keep going because it's 1% or less of their profit but this guy got caught for the first time Now for some more crazy theory,maybe they scammed some big players into investing in them? I know of a few things that happend in my fucking country and I wouldn't put it past them.A few companies here got screwed by people in power with fake tax evasion prosecutions and other accusation so that the company can be sold to somone and the people involed get a %.Things like the The Closed Circuit
>>211850 >They know they can get sued by investors They're getting sued by investors. They're a class action against them right now.
>>211852 Does it change anything if the investor's first bought stock on the day the release date was announced? As in they're not some majority shareholder but probably a fan who thought they wanted to make some extra dosh off the game.
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>>211850 There is such a thing as going too far. EA may be scummy but they are scummy towards their customers not towards their investors or business partners. CDPR has been consciously lying about the state of the game to both investors and to the public at large. Solid chunks of what they directly advertised in their trailers is just straight up missing, not "its not as great as we thought" but there is straight up nothing where something should be. That is the definition of false advertising, especially when you do this to investors and business partners. Sony never had to pull a game from PSN before and they have a lot of trash on there. That alone should tell you something about how deep in shit they are. They did not upset just the "consumers" but mainly their investors along with the Polish government. >>211822 Reddit has been in bed with these companies for quite some time. It would not surprise me if they did not have at least an internal memo circulating about this.
>>211868 The one investor lawsuit I heard about is specifically from the few months before release when CDPR knew that shit is fucked but still lied that it's good which is ground for false advertising Problem is ,like always even if they get sued for a few mil that isn't good enough,they would need to be forced to give away 50% of profit to the gov or get turned into government property to scare other companies There is as of today no legal way in any coutry to fight this shit.Facebook can sell your data even if it's "obligate" not to,make 50Bilion on it,get 100 milion in government fines and they won't feel it.They would need to get sued for 10% profit by each country they broke the law in >>211852 Those are not resolved yet.Something that the law probably ignores but Do investors care/know they are investing in a scam or investing in a good product? If you invested in Star Citizen knowing it's a scam and knowing you are going to make money on ,jpg sales is it still false advertising? CDPR made a shit game but they pulled off a magnificent hype campaign, do you remeber the memes "There was never a game we just wanted to work with Keanu" ,that's not impossible to pull of but it would be a trick 25 years in the making just to kill your own company for a 1 time profit I think this is something that should be investigeted also
>>211773 Good to see another company going down, as they all deserve, and will, eventually.
>>211899 >Do investors care/know they are investing in a scam or investing in a good product? Finance law doesn't really care if you tell your investors you're running a scam before they invest. CDPR is in trouble from the investors side precisely because they didn't warn the investors about the real state of the game. If you don't tell investors, it doesn't matter if it was obvious, if investors lost money, they're gonna sue you and probably win. See, while most investors are small, most stocks are held by large banks or investors, and you bet your ass they don't give a shit about truth, and they have the lawyers to get what they want. They just tack "class action" on because it means other people will pay part of their legal costs and add more pressure on the company to settle before a court sucks it dry.
>>211622 >most investors just want to make a return on their investment It only takes one asshole with a large share in order to start making waves. "Most" doesn't really matter. The hyperbolic example is George Soros, who plays realpolitik like it was fucking checkers just to see his graphs continue rising. Or it could be a company investing in you, which is led by a headstrong guy with terrible opinions and motives. Like Tencent with Epic, for example.
>>211822 How is the video "not designed to inform"? FFS. If you want to do censorship, go ahead but at least be honest about it.
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>>211748 He's got the smile down, doesn't overdo it, but his eyes are opened too wide and it's likely he didn't really want to do the picture. It's an expression of discomfort. However, just to be a little extra, he took that picture by himself, there's a reflection of a camera stand in his eye, but no person behind it, meaning it was a timed photo. It's likely he took more then one, and the brand of camera he's using is no longer sold.
>>212442 Oh, there's also something behind the camera, and it's likely it's a desk because of the shape of the reflection.
>>211773 lmao now THAT is what you call "getting your shit fucked up." I really hope the whole company folds. 8 years and all I got was a half-assed GTA game with rpg pretensions. FUCK YOU CDPR for building so much hype.
>>212504 You're right, but if it took you all 8 years to realize this, it was your own fault for not paying enough attention and pulling out early.
>>211822 So wait >Submissions intended to entertain rather than inform >This includes[...] and strategy guides Is anyone else seeing the disconnect here?
>>210042 >"gamers" are retarded sheep with the memory of a goldfish They're not gamers, they're normalfags who buy games because they need more bright lights and loud noises to distract their ADHD ridden brains from thinking about how shitty the world is around them. >>210331 >Hopefully, the failure of CP2077 causes people to question AAA gaming Anon, we both know that isn't going to happen. Normalniggers didn't learn a damn thing after the NMS shitshow, so what makes you think they'll learn their lesson this time? >>210373 >forgot to mention some of cdpr devs like to self-insert, imagine the egos on this cucks kek Devs using their own faces for npcs isn't always for ego reasons, dumbass, it saves time and money instead of hiring models. >>211822 I'm not surprised, /r/Games has always been a shill infested, shithole run by censorship happy mods. Remember back in the early days of GG, they were one of the first subreddits to quickly ban all discussion on the topic.
>>212694 >muh money witcher 3 - 100 mill budget cyberpunk2077 - 300 mill budget >not for ego reasons all important npc >muh models only talentless devs need to have models, and you know what is funny, their in game counterpart end up uglier than the real life model most of the time, face capture technology is a blight
>>212694 >normalfags who buy games because they need more bright lights and loud noises to distract their ADHD ridden brains from thinking about how shitty the world is around them. that would be a valid excuse at least, but most of the time it's just dumb consumerism, wanting to be part of the in-group talking about PRODUCT™ just ask anyone why they bought this game specifically and for what reason.
>>212762 >but most of the time it's just dumb consumerism, wanting to be part of the in-group talking about PRODUCT™ One of the actually beneficial side-effects of steamerfaggotry is that it fills this need without normalfags actually paying money for the game. The more AAA publishers choose to rely on streamers by giving them e.g. access weeks in advance the less people will bother playing the game themselves. Sure you'll still get kids and teenagers who just want to emulate what the streamer does imitation is how humans learn, it's no surprise the young do it obsessively but after a point that won't make up for the number of people who don't get the game at all. It's not just a money thing either: people have limited time in the day.
>>210042 >Gearbox As much as I hate to say it I think RoR2 was a big success for them.
>>212804 Chinks love it as well for some reason despite hating Americans. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WHsGO8a8WOE
>>212812 >chinks love RDR2 Must be because they shoot niggers without any problems
>>212814 >Must be because they shoot niggers without any problems China numba won riiiiiiiiiiiitee? African-Chinese couples on the rise in Guangzhou, China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJSDpqkO8U Chinese are already fucking mutts. More than the European Americans. Either you're Aryan or not.
>>212814 >RDRD2 He's talking about Risk of Rain 2 which was published by Gearbox, not Red Dead
>>212815 >>212818 my mistake and thought the Vid was about Chinks enjoying RDR2
>>212804 Wasn't the original Risk of Rain, and I assume it's sequel as well developed by someone from either the old 8chan or cuckchan?
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>>212815 Most of them still hate niggers.
The lawsuit by the investors is great and all but how aren't they being investigated by the government for degrading them of so much tax payer money?
>>212833 >degrading Meant to write defrauding, don't know how I did that.
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>>212832 That video did something I thought would never happen. I feel sorry for a black guy. Jesus fuck he knows he can't fight back because thats the gook secret service guys and if he even tries to run they will have him shot then bill his family for the bullets. Next time a nigger complains about western police arresting them for breaking the law show them this vid and tell them to shut the fuck up as they do not know when they have it good.
>>212922 Niggers really have no idea how good they have it in the west, they can do shit like this and face zero consequences.
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>>211822 <post contains a literally no commentary, jokeless, 40 minute video showing the developer's claims vs the reality of the game >No content primarily for humor, entertainment, or "tips & tricks - Submissions that are to intended to entertain rather than inform or discuss will be removed What a load of bullshit, they wanted to delete that video and gave a random reason why.
>>212724 I'm not referring to CDPR specifically but game devs in general, a lot of game devs have used their own staffs faces to save time and resources which is understandable, so I'm not entirely against the practice. >>212762 >most of the time it's just dumb consumerism, wanting to be part of the in-group talking about PRODUCT™ You're right, that's also another reason why normalfags buy shit AAA games and watch terrible hollywood movies, because they have the same mindset as children who only follow trends because they want to be accepted by their peers.
>put out a 17 gig update >it fixes some minor shit >even people on pirate sites are talking shit about the update being a load of nothing
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>>216591 It gives them an excuse to say "Look we're fixing it, trust us again please!"
>>216596 jesus christ what the fuck is that?
>>216602 The future.
>>216604 BURN IT
>>216596 thanks, I hate it
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>>216604 Today.
>>216789 I meant that as more of a 'There will be more of these lunatics' thing.
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>>216596 >>216789 Forget cyperpunk, we're caught in a carneypunk dystopia.
>>216591 I'm not sure how update size is calculated on Steam. When Death Stranding removed DRM protection earlier this year it was nominally a 30GB update (it wasn't).
>>216789 I wonder what pumping a pregant chick with testosterone does to a child. I'm sure nazi germany or the chinks have done testing on this but I doubt there's any public studies on it. Maybe trannies will help us discover how to make super soldiers.
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>>217820 >I wonder what pumping a pregant chick with testosterone does to a child.
>>217820 I think it makes miscarriages very likely. Even if the child appears to be healthy, I suspect some form of long term damage.
>>217820 >I'm sure nazi germany ... have done testing on this other way around shekelstein
>>217820 >I'm sure nazi germany or the chinks have done testing on this >nazi germany Time for the american-made gas chamber.
>>217857 >>217862 >implying the nazis weren't doing batshit insane experiments >implying there's anything wrong with doing batshit insane experiments for the betterment of your people and nation Their insane and ethically questionable science was one of the few things the nazis got right. Besides unwavering ethno-nationalism, of course. But that was especially unique to them at the time so attributing it to them seems weird.
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>>217878 >"Their insane and ethically questionable science was one of the few things the nazis got right. Besides unwavering ethno-nationalism, of course". >ethno-nationalism >"one of the few things the nazis got right" >mfw
>>217887 Found the nigger
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>>217878 Do you also believe the Nazis killed the Jews with roller coaster rides that crashed them to death? Just asking.
>>206592 >(batman arkham knight anyone). That also had denuvo which didn't really help open world streaming. You can usually turn Nvidia shit off.
>>217878 Ok Goldstein.
>>217912 Don't forget the electrified floor or the hawks and bears.
>>217820 It is always ok to kill jews.
>>217912 Tbh, this story was probably worded wrongly with the barrel bending shit, probably by someone who doesn't understand guns, but isn't that far fetched. It's something I could imagine a rogue squad / platoon with a bunch of sadistic psychopatic fuckers or a mexican drug cartel doing. >create a steel tube just wide enough to insert a shotgun barrel inside >tube is bent in a U shape at a smooth angle >cement tube in a concrete wall If someone did that, and dared you to put your face in front of the other end and fire the shotgun for ten thousand bucks, would you do it? Do you really think nothing could possibly go wrong, and you wouldn't get even a scratch or burn in your face?
>>217919 Or the masturbation machines or the classic jew from the image who says something like "The Nazi's shoved 12cm of wood up my ass and I can still feel the splinters"
>>218093 Maybe he would have felt better if he was allowed to disinfect it with Jew-soap
>>218087 Its someone who was telling lies.
>>218094 >Oy vey! the Nazis turned my relatives into soap!
>>217889 The Nazis were brought into power to protect the assets of the companies that financed the reconstruction of Germany after WWI like IG Farbin. The financial assets and important personnel like R&D staff were moved to sites out of Germany during the war, which destroyed Germany but left IG Farbin intact. It was mainly facilitated by OSS which were just corporate lawyers conducting business transactions with Nazi companies in Switzerland. Hence why all the money that facilitated turning OSS into CIA was off the books and not budgeted by the president. You're retarded if you think the Nazis cared about Germany, the country they destroyed more completely than any other.
https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/cyberpunk-2077-modding-tools-released-by-cdpr Looks like they caved in and went todd howard. I'm betting that they make the "Free DLCs" all the cut features from the game and half assed it and let the community fix the game for free while the normalfags and other niggers start sucking their dicks again because "They regain our trust"
>>219934 Once again proving that copyright is retarded. They'll release modding tools then the community will end up taking their software and making a better product, without any right to distribute and profit off it. At least they seem to be able to make good money from donations for their mod work these days so it's not all bad. I'd rather companies release modding tools than try to protect their pride and refuse to let other people fix their shitty products like Blizzard has done with WoW for decades.
>someone got into their servers >stole the source code for Cyberbunk, Glitcher 3, and the pre-downgrade version of Glitcher 3 It just keeps happening. https://archive.is/yAPJq
>>232638 >pre-downgrade version of Glitcher 3 I wonder if its a whole game or just certain areas for the bullshot trailer.
>>232638 At this point I get the impression that this is entirely intentional. I was willing to believe that a company server can get hacked once in a blue moon(like it used to be) but now all I hear is new hack happening every other month. Do they have no security on those servers? Or are they all using them same version of the same protection? This whole thing might a marketing stunt to farm up some pity points and maybe to get some additional tax cuts for "damages" caused by the "hackers". These hacks are just a bit too frequent and a bit too convenient for it to be just a bunch of edgelords.
>>232673 >tax cuts I doubt they even pay taxes if the polish government literally funnels taxpayer money into CDPR for the purposes of marketing for tourism.
I wonder if the unreleased version of Witcher 3 will be better than the original game.
>>232673 I think it's internal employees who just stopped giving a fuck.
>>232673 >I was willing to believe that a company server can get hacked once in a blue moon(like it used to be) but now all I hear is new hack happening every other month. Do they have no security on those servers? Or are they all using them same version of the same protection? Could also be companies starting to face the consequences of placing diversity hires to handle IT infrastructure.
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>>232673 You'd be amazed at how incompetent these people are anon. Let me paint a picture for you. >a company exists, their main product is either consumer software (shit that you buy a license for) or not software at all >the CEO doesn't give a flying fuck about software infrastructure for the company and views it purely as a red number that pisses him off on his balance sheet >he would lay off the entire software department if he could, to him they're like a utility that he has to begrudgingly pay to keep the lights on >CTO is probably the most experienced software guy in the company and knows what he's doing >he's been pestering the CEO to either upgrade their security or outsource it to a company whose entire business is securely retaining data instead >CEO doesn't want to because that would increase the evil red number, also because "it's worked for us thus far" >this state of being is retained for years at a time <suddenly, some teenager who read about the OWASP top 10 uses a trivial exploit to retrieve reams of data <CEO has to pay triple whatever he would have paid in damage control Only companies whose entire business is software as a service or data retention bother with up-to-date security. To everyone else it's an expense which should be minimized as much as possible, because otherwise you'll be up all night thinking about the redness of your numbers. I was laid off from my second job along with 75% of the entire IT department because the holding company saw nothing but red numbers. All of the software used on a day-to-day basis by the company was developed in-house I am terrified to think of how that office works day-to-day now
>>232907 >spoilered text Are you me anon >Only companies whose entire business is software as a service or data retention bother with up-to-date security. Sometimes even IT companies will skimp on that. The company that laid me off was a fucking software consulting company, specialized in developing custom in-house software for businesses (mostly tourism, law and insurance sectors). But I am a sysadmin, and despite it being primarily an IT company, they still always saw the IT infrastructure staff as nothing but an expense and red numbers. Over the course of an year they laid off all the most experienced, better paid IT support staff like me leaving only the inexperienced, incompetent kids willing to work for barely above minimum wage, and things were already a mess back then due to their unwillingness to invest in anything. I don't want to see how things are there now.
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>>232750 >astral chain fuck i wanna play it but fucking nintendojews will not allow pc port
>>232947 Why not use an emulator?
>>232954 https://yuzu-emu.org/game/astral-chain/ ill have to wait about ten years for it to run well
>>232745 >that Deus Ex Liberty Island Needs remaking in minecraft.
>>232673 Former consumers who rightfully hate the way companies operate + disenfranchised employees that started to hate the mess that the company became. It is happening more frequently because those two factors are happening on a daily basis. That is another reason why nothing is too big to fail. Everything can, and will, be sabotaged and destroyed from inside out by people who hate their work, with the help from people who used to buy what the first ones mad but hate those who employ them.
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>>212922 >I feel sorry for a black guy. There's your problem, you shouldn't. Feeling bad for these parasites brought us only problems, our kindness and empathy have been exploited by the kikes who bring these apes in countries they don't belong. Also video related.
>>212922 > Go to foreign country > Do stupid nigger shit > Pay for it
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>>232966 Glad it's not just me finding Yuzu unuzable
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>>232673 Anon, that's what happens when you hire shitskins, dykes and faggots who are only there to subvert your company and use your games as a vehicle for marxist propaganda instead of competent people.
>>244570 what if part of the plan is hoping that the people you hired are incompetent because you were forced to buy into divershitty because that's what the providers of the loans required?
>>244575 Then the best course of action is to crash the company, cash in by not paying anyone, throw all diversity hires under the bus, since nobody in the public will defend them, and move on to live a good life at the expense of the pink haired landwhales.
>>205898 >Didn't think we'd be talking about this game again but they must've realize how much they fucked up they had to make an apology video. It's not that they "realized" how much they fucked up, because THEY KNEW the fucked up, it's just that they thought they could get away with it, that's the difference. CDprojekt turned into the monster the promised not to become, spending more money on ads than actual development delivering a shitty product more focused on propaganda than anything else, and on top of that release dlcs they promised to never do. Fuck them.
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>>210706 N-no, i am-ehm i mean he's totally fine and happy, Cyberpunk is a good game and a great success!!! :^)
>>246232 Remind me when CDPR actually fails. One or two years from now, they will have fixed up CyberJunk, journalists and youtube influencers will praise it, normies will love it, everyone except a few chan autists will forget anything ever happened.
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>>246604 >normies
>>246648 Care to reply to the actual point of the post?
>>246604 >normies >chan
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>>205898 All the failure saga compiled for everyone to read and laugh at CDPR's guaranteed end. >Iwinski says that Rockstar Games is their idol and they aim to be like them. The team is afraid of Cyberpunk disappointing people. Because of that they focus a lot on testing things in game that will be shown to the general public and obsession with the quality of the game. Iwinski prefers that his studio worked harder on the game that will be breathtaking and stay in memory rather than just be released in the best sale season. >The goal of the game is to influence the whole industry. Iwinski dreams of becoming one of the giants listing Blizzard, Valve, Bethesda. Never pity those who fail, for their failure is always deserved.
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>>246604 Suck it up, you kike. Your company's going to fall along with the rest of the industry because at this point even normalfags have become jaded about the state of vidya and when you're at your lowest we're all going to collectively stomp you with our boot and laugh as you scream like a cornered animal. There's no way for you but down anymore.
>>246604 >normies You're right, but try not being a faggot next time. Normalfags are already praising numan's for literally just adding what should've been in the game at launch. Normalfags are already praising F76 for literally just being somewhat playable now. If they ever get the game anywhere close to "fixed" normalfags will praise the fuck out of it because "it's good now". The only hope I have for this shit is for the con fags to get sued into oblivion by the government and investors.
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>a thread of TORfags
>>246879 "My" company? The only thing you're going to stomp on is the keys on your keyboard.
>>246904 I know life is tough in Poland but you can consider more honest work than trying to niggerpill people away from shitting on your precious CDPR. The industry is crashing, deal with it.
>>246906 Shitting on CDPR is one thing, claiming they're going to die is another. It's more of a wish than an actual argument.
>>246916 Your company is dead, and we contributed in killing it, shill. Deal with it. There is nothing too big to fail.
https://archive.vn/rc6vL >Cyberpunk 2077’s next big patch delayed to second half of March >While we dearly wanted to deliver Patch 1.2 for Cyberpunk 2077 in the timespan we detailed previously, the recent cyber attack on the studio’s IT infrastructure and extensive scope of the update mean this unfortunately will not happen They always have to blame something else other than complete and total disregard for deadlines and efficiency.
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>>247771 >they can't even make their corporate bribe to consumers to come out on-time. I can't fucking believe that I and others thought these faggots were gonna be the ones who would save the industry. t. Good old Goy user
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>>247787 I just love seeing that currynigger and the midget jew eating their own words over a shitacular GTA clone, reddit cattle on suicide watch?
>>210042 >scope and size What a fucking joke, nigger. Not even for asset creation, retards can make content whipped through a single course.
>>247771 Have you considered the possibility that the "hack" was a made up story so that they could blame stuff on it? I mean, the source code and the other hacked things haven't leaked, right?
>>246871 >the first pic This basically confirms my long running theory that they effectively rebooted the whole game atleast once or twice and the game that shipped is nothing more than a bastardized tldr of what the game was supposed to be.
>>247869 >my long running theory that they effectively rebooted the whole game atleast once It's all but officially confirmed.
>>209953 >Why would *Any* government give tax payer's money towards entertainment like this? To control their content. Politicans in Germany hated video games for decades for their "violent"(aka not pushing OUR ideology) content and changed the youth protection law in a way that made it difficult to market video games in Germany. All in the hope that this "fad" called video games goes away when it loses popularity with the industry. When that didn't happen and video games became bigger than Hollywood, they created the "German computer games award" in 2007 to incentivise the Gaming Industry to make games in the fashion that German Politics approves. Each winners of the award gets 450.000€ in German tax money.
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>>217820 >I'm sure nazi germany or the chinks have done testing on this >first pic related >>207483 >>209655 >second pic related
>>247771 Imagine fucking up even the promised patches you announced in order to placate customers because you fucked up the game in the first place
>>232966 >>244567 I wonder if it's a hardware thing or a game thing, I've been using yuzu to play Smash Ultimate with my friends and it's been running peachy so far.
>>217820 >OY VEY DA NOT ZEES ARE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD >MUH MENGUHLUH >>>/suicide/
>>247771 >>247787 >>247898 https://archive.is/hL3eE Apparently the last hack hit them so badly they were locked out of their own fucking VPN, and nobody can work from home. They just keep fucking up, I don't know if they know how to do anything but fuck up anymore.
>>247787 >I can't fucking believe that I and others thought these faggots were gonna be the ones who would save the industry. Apply that to Sega's worshipers, always sperging about "muh Sega will save gaming" whenever one of the 3 big console manufacturers does something retarded. You all should have learned for now that there is no saving coming from any of those companies. Only a total replacement can even barely begin saving videogames.
>>247894 t. reddit.
>>248031 I think Segafags are mostly joking, or banking on purely them fucking things up and shaking things up enough to take down one of the other companies as well as themselves. Segafags know full well how Sega wasn't killed by their competition. Segafags will write entire essays and books on how Sega killed themselves, and how they continue repeating the same mistakes to this day.
>>247771 >shit the bed >scrape a fragment of shit off the bed >'We'll get the rest eventually' Funny how they don't get that they've soured everyone so it doesn't matter what they do to 'fix' it. Games can't be 'fixed' anyway, if they're fundamentally broken they can never improve, just slap a patina of non-content on top, NMS is still as empty and shit as it ever was and so shall it be with this.
>>248118 The only way to "fix" this dumpster fire is by firing all the diversity hires, hire their former competent developers back, and remake the entire game from scratch. And we all know that is not going to happen.
>>248245 Exactly, so they should just abandon Cybershit as the radioactive trashfire it is, was and always will be, pivot and actually try making something with substance that's totally new but of course they're too lobotomized and into sadomasochism for that, so instead they're gonna run themselves into the ground with useless hires making shit no-one cares about for a game most people laughed at from a distance/got refunded or have given up on entirely. Everything they're doing for this game is a waste of time. I've not played it and never will but I've seen it's myriad flaws and the lack of effort put into it much it's like hearing about a disastrous first date with a nightmare girl, it might make you laugh but inspires absolutely no confidence or desire to go anywhere near the girl and everything she does after the fact to paper over her glaring cracks will always be undermined by that repellent first impression even by proxy. Frankly I'm surprised they've not been taken out back and shot.
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>>248265 >Frankly I'm surprised they've not been taken out back and shot. They have no honor to do what is right.
>>248265 >>248585 Remember that >>246871 >Iwinski dreams of becoming one of the giants listing Blizzard, Valve, Bethesda. they are pozzed shit that idolize pozz, greed and corruption.
>>248265 >Exactly, so they should just abandon Cybershit as the radioactive trashfire it is that's what they're doing, of course they're not telling anyone else the blowback would be even worse. shit will get some technical fixes and then quickly another game pushed out, either cyperpunk multi (which will be it's own shitshow) or witcher 4, anything else would require extensive revamps and there is simply no money in it for doing so.
>>247934 The hacking never happened. And even if it did, it was an inside job. They know very well what they're doing, and just like before, it'll backfire.
>>248804 I think CDPR's next project will be a quick remake of Witcher 1. They'll re-record some of the voice lines (especially Triss since she got a new VA after 1) and remake the quest lines in TW3 engine. it's the only game still bound to PC and has a very different design to all the others. They'll model it as "for the fans" but really it's a quick and easy cashgrab with an addition of teasing TW4 in the new ending.
>>248804 Zero chance they're going to drop Cyberpunk. The game that was supposed to be revolutionary, to put them on the world stage along with the Blizzards and Rockstars. No way they're going to waste the opportunity. It will be milked for all it's worth, just watch.
>>249051 >It will be milked for all it's worth, just watch. that worth went poof when they fucked up the launch. it's a singleplayer game with shit story and bugs out the ass that kill all immersion, at this point people either powered through it and finished or dropped it and looked up the equally shit ending on jewtube. if they turn it into the game they promised, who's gonna care? and who of those is gonna buy it for 60 bucks? they might try to milk it with multiplayer which was their goal after they saw the money GTAO makes, but again no one's gonna give a shit, less so after they fucked up the first game and dropped it. plus they're getting hacked constantly, you trust those guys to shit out a serviceable online game? as >>248956 said they gonna shit something witcher out quick (they were already working on a "next gen" port of w3" for the brand name and quick cash influx, then might go back to cyberpunk if they still thing the IP has value.
>>249062 They will definitely not go for a full on remake of the first game and instead milk TW3 as much as they can. They'll ad some stupid shit like ray tracing, the DLC and some other features here and there and try to regain the fan's good will with it. After that its probably Witcher 4 or a reboot of the series with Ciri. And by 2030 when people have already forgotten the disaster Cyberpunk was, release a reboot of the franchise.
>>249051 >The game that was supposed to be revolutionary Yeah 'supposed to be' but they Fucked It. >No way they're going to waste the opportunity They kinda already have, after its clunker debut only paid faggot shills and morons will keep it afloat now, granted there's no shortage of either but still, hasn't everyone gotten their sour taste and moved on? I see parody games with Cyber in the title with more promise than that shovel full of hot vomit.
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>>249069 >factual post got deleted because "muh blackpill" You dumb fucking niggers, normalfags didn't learn after no man's sky, normalfags didn't learn after fallout 76, and you seriously expect them to learn now when they're already eating this shit up? Sure consoles are bricked, but they're normalfags, if it's ever fixed they'll go back to praising based CDPR just like they did despite the Witcher 3 downgrade. PC is already "there's bugs b-but it's a solid experience underneath". If you want to hope for something hope for the government and investors to snuff the company with lawsuits, that's believable at least, but don't expect normalfags to fucking learn, you'll just be setting yourself up for disappointment. If normalfags could learn they wouldn't be normalfags, and they wouldn't have bough this shit in the first place.
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>>206278 >>206521 >Nier: Automata It had lots of technical issues and graphically could have been MUCH better, but unlike this CyberPoz dumpster fire, Automata was a good game. CyberPoz is shit game AND looks like garbage on top of that. >>207022 >Yes. Putting niggers and trannies in a game instead of gorgeous white girls is infinitely worse than bugs and anti-consumer practices. This >But once the games are pozzed, they are shit forever. And this.
>>205930 >Remember Nier: Automata? Bugs and bad performance What? I had Nier: Automata at launch and have no idea what you're talking about.
>>250020 It is the anti-Japanese games brigade of goons. They always bring Japanese games to compare to failed pozzed western games when they fail and get mocked even by normalfags. >"B-b-b-b-ut that one non-pozzed, good and successful Japanese game has flaws reeeeeeeeeee" It is always the same non argument.
>>250020 I've heard it was pretty hit and miss and wouldn't work on certain computers. That said it ran pretty well on my machine, and the only "person" that I've seen having trouble with the game had uneven RAM.
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>>248863 >The hacking never happened. And even if it did, it was an inside job. This. They are trying to paint themselves as the "poor victims who really wanted to make a good game but something (or someone) bad went in their way". I used to like CDpojekt, bac when they were still polish, now i hate them as much as Ubisoft, Activision, Sony or Crapcom. They wanted to become shit and dishonest like those companies? Well congrats! They just did!
>>251215 >They are trying to paint themselves as the "poor victims who really wanted to make a good game but something (or someone) bad went in their way". If you read this developer's post >>246871 (5th pic), you will see that indeed, they think that they are the "virtuous and good developers that were muh mismanaged", instead of the hacks and propagandists that they truly are. The guy posting didn't even address all the pozz, which as a major factor that caused rejection even among normalfags (not all, but a large portion), and instead, literally says that they could do no wrong and "muh management bad", when it is clear that the whole company is cancer, from the top down.
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>>251215 Lupo, vai a dormire che domani si lavora!
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>>251245 >>251215 Per favore, allontanati dal tavolo e vai a bere del vino.
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>>251259 TOTI DÈ
>>251215 Anyone who thinks that they "feel bad about lying/want to redeem themselves" is delusional and retarded. They don't care, they lied through their teeth and with a (uncomfortable) smile for years, pretending that everything was okay until the very last second before the game was available to play, and they won't even admit to lying/deceiving their costumers. They even paid tons of shills to rate their game 9-10/10, which is why only now the rating is going down. Furthermore, they also are desperately blaming everyone but themselves. If they could blame the local beggar, they would do it because they NEED to save their necks. For those who think that normalfags will learn: they won't. Stop lying to yourselves, deep down you know that this is not true. They didn't learn the first time, they didn't learn the second, and it won't be different this time. I hope that disgrace of a company burn, literally and figuratively.
>>251284 People never feel bad about lying, they only ever feel bad when they get caught lying.
>>251300 Exactly. If everything went "all smiles", they would do something worse in the next game.
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>>251300 >People never feel bad about lying, they only ever feel bad when they get caught lying. This. They knew exactly that the game was shit, they deliberately lied to their customers and they thought they could get away with it. Well they didn't that's why they made the video, certainly not because they genuinely feel bad about lying to the people and releasing that turd. Well maybe they do feel bad, but only about the money lost.
>>251319 Did they really think they could get away with it? I mean, mechanics and depth-wise, CP2077 is outmatched by the OG Grand Theft Auto from more than 20 years ago: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=sQ4Q_Cdk7QA. Did they really think noone's going to notice? I think the most you can say is that they are going to rely on patches and people's short memory to recover their reputation. But their failure was so big, it might not work this time.
>>247823 If it was made up, that's a pretty elaborate and costly scheme. Alleged hackers did release some source code of one of the smaller games CDPR made, and had to be paid off to not release the rest. Something like that is a serious blemish on company's reputation, potential legal liability, and something sure to piss off investors. It's even more embarrassing since Poland has no shortage of competent IT personnel. Corporation I work at has some offices in Poland. IT at American, Polish, and Bulgarian branches are the ones bailing out retarded IT employees in Italy, England, Japan, and Middle Eastern branches on daily basis.
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>>251463 >Did they really think they could get away with it? Consider the absolute state of normalnigger - yes. I would have though so too. I'm actually surprised they did not get away with it.
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>>251463 >Did they really think they could get away with it? >Did they really think noone's going to notice? Yeah, they probably thought: "If Bethesda/Capcom/Activision can do it, why shouldn't we?" Also this >>251527
>>210409 >that pic Imagine the bloated ego of this faggot...
>>251284 >For those who think that normalfags will learn: they won't. They literally are learning.
>>251463 >Did they really think they could get away with it? They are as retarded as anons who think that "normalfags will never learn".
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>>210706 >>212442 Now do Anthony Burch
>>251780 > Literally > Normalfags > Learning Pick none
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>>210706 also I made you a meme
>>251780 >>251781 Explain >>249383 tornigger.
>>210409 >>251603 Imagine working under that pulsating dick and having to program his faggy shitmouth avatar's stupid hair. I'm sure there are realms in hell offering a more attractive position.
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>>253671 >all the lawsuits They literally lied to the government and investors. Normalniggers ain't doing shit. >refunds Mostly on consoles because it was literally unplayable. They're still making bank on PC. >backlash Some "haha cyberbug" reddit memes? The steam reviews are MIXED, not even negative, but fucking mixed. Console retards might be pissed off, if even that, but normalfags are not upset, they'll eat this shit up once it's better just like they've always done before. >explain the rejection to the Soystation 5, X Bone Whatever, The Last of Us 2 The consoles literally killed themselves and so did the last of us. Normalfags will eat shit, but you need to tell them it's good first. Also, you've yet to explain why normalfags, despite "learning", are praising the shit out of numans and the few that play it are saying f76 "is good now".
>>253688 Stop replying to the BRnigger anon
>>253671 >muh too big to fail Literally no one except you says this. And, those things still did not "fail".
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>>253873 Keep posting, everyone needs a good laugh.
>>253689 Holyshit that poor creature. Are these backwater brazilians breeding with chimps?
>>253884 Roceiros are breeding with Favelados
>>253689 But it's fun. >>253918 Are you so fucking retarded you can't fucking read? >all the refunds >>Mostly on consoles because it was literally unplayable. They're still making bank on PC. >and boycotts >>Some "haha cyberbug" reddit memes? The steam reviews are MIXED, not even negative, but fucking mixed. Console retards might be pissed off, if even that, but normalfags are not upset, they'll eat this shit up once it's better just like they've always done before. >What they praise doesn't translate into profit. It does when they've already bought the game. >random internet posts that are surely from bots and employees with false accounts Ah yes, surely the 300 thousand steam reviews are all false and not indicative of normalfag behavior. It's just a coincidence that numan's being universally praised just a the steam reviews are turning positive. >>Also, you've yet to explain why normalfags, despite "learning", are praising the shit out of numans and the few that play it are saying f76 "is good now".
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ep5iIYjPIkM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IJHhQmmwyc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA7I0j8Jeto&t=1s > 3+ months of work > Police now don't spawn behind you > Cars don't swerve that much > Cars don't get stuck that much So much for the huge update
>>265069 These are only showcases of what was fixed. I'm wondering what the update broke, after all the 1.1 update that "fixed" god knows what made the game unbeatable. I'm hopping for it corrupting your drive or something like that, I want a new shitshow.
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>>212832 >That video did something I thought would never happen. I feel sorry for a black guy. >Jesus fuck he knows he can't fight back because thats the gook secret service guys and if he even tries to run they will have him shot then bill his family for the bullets. Yeah, i am sure those chinks are beating that nigger up for no reason at all because he dindu nuffin. :^)
>>265321 >letting your hatred for niggers overshadow your hatred for bugmen Don't be retarded.
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>>265321 You replied to the wrong post
>>265321 meant for >>212922
>>265391 Last time I looked anon blacks did not work with Jews to spread a bioweapon to force people to get microchipped and "vaccinated" they just aint smart enough, the Chinese did. Nice try comrade now GTFO.
>>265404 Are you a nigger yourself?
>>253884 No, he just has the same thing those deformed girls had. You know the ones.
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>>265404 >Implying i like or i even defended the chinks That anon was saying that he felt bad for the nigger when he should know better. China is cancer but i doubt those chinks in the video were beating the nigger for no reason. Don't be a nigger apologist faggot.
>>232947 Hopefully AC gets The Wonderful 101 treatment in the near future. >>251530 >If Bethesda/Capcom/Activision can do it, why shouldn't we? Well, I wouldn't blame them for using that line of thinking. Normalcattle will gladly let EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda, Paradox, SEGA, Capcom, Sqeenix, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, etc, fuck them up the ass every year but one particularly shitty game is what they'll make a huge fuss over, it's both confusing and infuriating how selective they are with their outrage.
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>>265409 >actually letting your hatred of blacks overshadow your hatred for the Chinese Anon, you're too retarded to be whining about "nigger apologists" when you're talking big about the Chinese in any way whatsoever. Only actual chinese, Torfags, or (((allies))) do that sort of shit.
>>265409 >More than you might think What? I think every white country is full of them.
>>265069 Have they fixed the bugs regarding the loss of data in the hospital?
>>265409 Both are awful Anon but Chinks are worse. I would not give a KFC muncher the time of fucking day but I would not wish bugman justice even on them. The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy but at least he does not create fucking bioweapons.
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>>265427 >Chinks made a bioweapon that only works on old fucks and fatties while niggers have a choice of killing, robbing, or committing both against whites everyday but chinks are worse >>>/8coon/
>>265427 First of all, this is the shittiest and least dangerous virus to ever be reported about. Secondly, the lab from where the virus leaked is connected to the Bill Gates who lives in the USA, not China. And it doesn't stop here. Chinese grandpas are just as affected as everyone else's 70+ grandpas. Those grandpa deaths can't even fully be attributed to the virus but they stopped checking for cancer and other things old people might have "to be prepared for the second Corona wave". (Even through the first one was before anyone talked about it)
>>265456 True.
>>265444 The "bioweapon" was massively successful, it's just that it was seemingly never played to kill millions in the first place. Think about it, what would China gain from an actual bioweapon that killed people in droves? At best, they'd lose trading partners, and at worse they'd actually be in deep shit. But helping their allies get closer to a population with unwavering loyalty to them like they get to have with a "deadly virus" that apparently demands people to give up their rights? That just secures their existing deals, as they did a huge favor for them; a mass of mindless cattle, eager to do whatever the state says.
>>265462 Actually having fewer trading partners is better because it increases their overall market share. If you can only fulfill 16 of 100 agreements but then you make 20 people disappear, all of a sudden you've gone from 16% to 20% with additional cost
>>265464 What are you talking about? They are keeping their currency low artificially. If they wanted less trading partners they could just stop manipulating it and prices for Chinese products would rise.
>>265464 Do you mean competition?
>>210706 >>253522 >Now do Anthony Burch I second this.
>>265415 Anon, what part of "China is cancer" you don't understand?
>>265669 >as long as it harms the jews and niggers. It doesn't. Race mixing is what the jew wants and Asians in general are slaves to money aka Jews.


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