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Wild arms Anonymous 02/20/2021 (Sat) 15:35:51 Id:f2b924 No. 242571
What is your opinion on the wild arms series? Personally, I didn't play it growing up, but playing 1 and 2 back to back as an adult was my personal favorite new jrpg experience.
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3 is great. Also some official art makes it yuri.
Fun. I want more games like this and Lufia 2 where you can use items in the dungeons. Sucks that they're so rare.
>>242571 It is my favorite RPG series, overall, but considering only the first 3 and the tactics one for PSP. Avoid the remake of the first game and the 4th and the 5th one. Wild Arms 4 especially, has one of the worst cast of characters and plot in all videogames, with everything summarized as "muh adults are all evil except mommies, but kids and teenagers are all good and cool even when they are cowards and liars because kids rule!" Buth the first 3 are amazing on their own. And they all got some of the best music in videogames.
I'm replaying Wild Arms 1 and why the hell did this never get a fan retranslation? There are multiple points where the official translation is bad enough that it makes puzzles impossible to solve without resorting to trial and error or just using a walkthrough.
>>242780 >CURRENT YEAR >NOT BEING MOON LITERATE
>>242873 Some of us have to work and don't have an hour to waste on flash cards each day.
>>242986 yes yes, toil away in the tendiemines for your betters, little wageslave
>>242986 Yeah waste hundreds of hours in being literate in a language just to play a videogame, you dumb fuck.
>>243057 >how come older people can't learn new things XD Because that's how the human brain is zoomer. >>242986 Don't use working as an excuse, it's faggot enable tier as hell. >>242611 Does Golden Sun count with it's magic outside of battle? >>242571 I never played it as there's like 50 jrpg games on the PSX but they take up too much space on my sd and flash drives. They say Grandia is top tier but I've not that downloaded nor played either. Xenogears is nice but the ending is wew. FF7 is obviously the best though but people go on about FF9 being cute or something. Then there's Parasite Eve 1 and 2 being JRPG games, Lunar Silver Star Story, there's a bunch more ut Wild Arms is something people think of after the games I just listed. Valkyrie Profile comes before Wild Arms as well as a top tier RPG game on the PSX. No one talks about Wild Arms hardly ever. It must be a hidden gem.
>>243057 That is as good as any reason Anon. You sound like a underage fag that has to have everything slowly explained to him and finds words hard. You should become a games journalist.
>>243151 Realistically no one is going to learn an entire new language just to play a single game.
>>243154 >Realistically I am not going to learn an entire new language just to play a single game. Fixed that for you Anon. There are 7 billion people on Earth. Tens of thousands of which will have done just that and as a side effect bettered themselves. You can only speak for yourself .
>>243154 > no one is going to learn an entire new language just to play a single game One game, no. Several games, yes. I'm trying to learn Japanese after learning about how many of the game translations for Japanese games are complete and utter bullshit, and all the untranslated games that I will be able to play afterwards is just a bonus.
>>243151 >instantly ad hominem because I didn't validate your waste of time Yes I am a zoomer and a cuck and all the boogeymen you can come up with because I do better things with my time. Surely I must be all of that if I don't agree with you.
>>243164 No, they do it so that they can play a video game and also learn English, which is the lingua franca of the world and much more useful than any other language. English speakers don't have this incentive to learn other languages.
>>243214 > learn English, which is the lingua franca of the world and much more useful than any other language No, what you're thinking of FRENCH.
>>243212 >muh ad hominem More like add homonim you fucking loser. And the homonim is being added to YOU.
>>243230 >blocks non-nip IP's you know, as they are xenophobic Absolutely nothing wrong with that
>>243111 Isn't PE2 a RE clone?
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>>243154 >Realistically no one is going to learn an entire new language just to play a single game. >Realistically no one is going to learn an entire new language just to read a single book. >Realistically no one is going to learn an entire new language just to watch a movie / tv show / theatrical play. >Realistically no one is going to learn an entire new language just to work a single job. <Being this retarded >>243243 Yup.
>>243272 >comparing learning a language to play games and watch movies to learning a language to get a fucking job
>>243243 It is better than RE, Parasite Eve 2 has all kinds of super cool shit going on. If you can emulate it give it a try. First things first, the game is an RPG. You have stats, levels, equipment. When you encounter enemies exploring things RE style the game shifts to battle mode, during this you can only use items you have attached to your armor. Ammo has a limited amount you can carry but there are multiple points you can top off your ammo supply, it is much more combat focused. There are 'spells' in the form of bio-energy attacks utilizing Aya's weird mitochondria. Calling it an RE clone really doesn't do it justice, the main similarity is tank controls, camera angle and (pretty much necessitated by the camera angle) lock-on shooting.
>>243212 You won't learn because you are incapable of doing so. Sucks to be you. Stay mad while we keep learning whatever we want to.
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>>243212 >Yes I am a zoomer and a cuck Well I respect that you can at least admit your failings Anon.
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>>243436 >Regurgitating some blackpill pasta Good job retard. >Muh YOU'RE NEVER GONNA BECOME ASIAN WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH See if I give fuck, I also won't become french, german, austrian, english, scottish, irish, american, italian, sicilian, spanish nor swiss either but unlike you, I don't go around shitting on other people's plates just to vent out the frustration for my inabilities and crippling autism. And I'm not even that good of a student either as I still learn nip.
>>242571 Gone long before its time. Relegated to phone game gaccha shit. A genre-defining classic. WA4 was awful, storywise though. Defeatist as hell, the polar opposite of where the series went until that point. WA2 is probably the best one, mechanics & story wise. The various things in the world to find and pick up were great, tracking down story content on the side was great. No theme ripoffs/salutes that I know of (this time round). Felt damned good using just about everyone on the squad, and not just one or two OP characters. And the bonus bosses were fuckin' great. Angol Mois & Ragu o'Ragula were vastly-superior fights compared to WA1 where you almost have to glitch-exploit the game to stand a decent chance at not being cheesed to death. WA1 remains my favorite because ;holy shit that story, and I was young enough to not see the reveal on Rudy coming. But overall it was an excellent piece of story-telling that hit you on the head with the environmentalist message, but at the same time made you actually work and sweat for that totem ending. The amount of content, sidestories, bonus bosses & dungeons, items, weapons, and making your ARM OP as fuck is just something that's always satisfying. And the puzzles were god tier—anon was right in that such gameplay similar to Lufia should've been a rule, not an exception. Damn shame Sony are massive faggots that won't let the Media Vision developers go to make their own games. Fuck Sony.
>>242986 Do the work, faggot. Stop carving excuses into yourself and do the work. >>243111 >I never played it as there's like 50 jrpg games on the PSX but they take up too much space on my sd and flash drives. They say Grandia is top tier but I've not that downloaded nor played either. Stop fucking around and get on them. Grandia is a master class on how to build and adventure game and story, and the battle system remains one of the best, if not THE best, systems you'll ever come across in a JRPG. As for the rest, I got all of those (except Parasite Eve) when they came out. PSX has an extensive list of solid hits on JRPGs, yes. But you're missing out by not playing WIld ARMs. Both PSX releases were more than worth the time investment. People don't talk about good games on /v/—you think you'd know by now. You're going to get contrarian faggots with jaded eyes in here sooner or later but fuck them go play the game and enjoy the world music and the slick dungeon designs, on top of some actually likeable characters.
>>242571 >What is your opinion on the wild arms series? 1-3 was fantastic and though 4-5 were considered great and even better, the charm of the first one was less and less as the series went on. I stopped after 3 and only saw glimpses of 4 and 5 because they seemed to be in short supply and copies were snagged up.
>>243445 Cold and alone you are. Cold and alone due to the xenophobia. You have to accept this now. Censorship just proves me right. And no, not pasta, Mr. Illogical.
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Wild Arms is really kino! I haven't played it yet but people keep saying 2 is the best but I REALLY doub tit like seriously hav ethey even played 3 it's actually so good
>>244012 /thread. You described everything perfectly. Inlcuding that Soyny should burn. I would only add WA3 as a good one too, since it does the same that 2 does regarding secrets and plot points. It only fails in the aspects of some side quests having no meaning in the plot, and it's facilitation on exploiting OP characters.
>>244439 >4-5 were considered great and even better By who? Game journos/soyfreaks? 4 was always the one that ruined the franchise, to the point that 5 couldn't salvage it.
>>244901 There is nothing wrong with Xenophobia. My race is the only race that matters. As for censorship, the only acceptable one is censoring jewish and leftard propaganda. They must never be tolerated.
>>245076 >right winger retardation is perfectly fine! No fag.
>>244012 >And the bonus bosses were fuckin' great. Angol Mois & Ragu o'Ragula were vastly-superior fights compared to WA1 where you almost have to glitch-exploit the game to stand a decent chance at not being cheesed to death. I'm not sure I follow, it's in WA2 where you have to break the game in half to even have a chance of beating the optional bosses, WA1 you can pretty much roll all over them by level 55-60 provided you learn about the frog suit for the one actually hard one, and you should considering just how fucking busted stealing is in 1. For WA2 I had to restart the whole thing to even have a chance for the last two and go out of my way to do the following >not using any scapegoat >not leveling up past lvl 3 until I had a way to set skills on Brad And then i had to use the least appealing strategy ever conceived which is charge > equip untouchable medium + HP regen acc. > wait till HP filled > repeat till 25-30 charges accumulated > oneshot the boss Faggot literally nulls any other interesting strategy you can come up with, especially since debuffs/buffs are nulled.
>>245157 Right wing is always ok. All leftards and non-whites must be killed for existing. Xenophobia is always a good thing. My race is the only race that matters, soyfreak.
>>245157 If you're not right wing you don't belong here. Leave nigger.
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>>245285 Imageboards weren't made for normalfaggots that vote left nor right. Even if they were, image related, invader.
245184 Trying too hard while assuming I'm some unironic sjw so no @
>>245172 >I'm not sure I follow, it's in WA2 where you have to break the game in half to even have a chance of beating the optional bosses Not the case. WA1, you could actually take on every boss and even secret boss in the game fairly up to Ragu O'Ragula. Granted, some of them really were cheap as fuck (sup moon golems & Super Zed), but doable. Ro'R made it so that if you did not exploit Goat Dolls or the item glitch trick to sell a fuckton of Duplicators and max out buff items AND Goat Dolls, kiss your ass goodbye cause you ain't beating him without a lot of resets. He's bullshit unbalanced. WA2 on the other hand was far better balanced. If the bosses beat your ass in this game, it's because you didn't pay attention to how your teams were specked. Adjusting the supplemental skills, maxing out attack techs, adjusting ARMs properly & relying on Ashley's Blazer form could outlast all the bosses. WA2 Ro'R actually had a pattern once you paid attention. All of his attacks could OHKO, but if you caught the pattern, armed up, and allocated your skill points, you could take him down. A massive trick to surviving is not ignoring the elemental rings. It's the one way to survive 1 Trillion Degrees, and the follow up Dark Element party wipe attack. Ashley & I think I had Kanon swapping for high DPS while Lilka covered heals & buffs and Tim did emergency shit.
>>245521 >Ro'R made it so that if you did not exploit Goat Dolls or the item glitch trick to sell a fuckton of Duplicators and max out buff items AND Goat Dolls, kiss your ass goodbye cause you ain't beating him without a lot of resets. He's bullshit unbalanced. You steal frog badges from one of the random encounter near his room and turn his nuke into a heal. >WA2 Ro'R actually had a pattern once you paid attention Yeah he did, but he still was a biitch and a half if you didn't mind your exp progression more than usual. Angol Moa / Angolmois didn't, or it had damage gated triggers that changed the pattern because that fucking faggot took me more tries than everything else combined. Off course googling it to find his name and making sure i was referring to the right boss leaves me to learn that this fucking shithead is vulnerable to canceller
>>245544 >You steal frog badges from one of the random encounter near his room and turn his nuke into a heal. My theft rate was abyssmal. I'll keep that in mind next time through. >Yeah he did, but he still was a biitch and a half if you didn't mind your exp progression more than usual. Absolutely and without argument. But then, most of the good bosses in games are that way. I didn't even think of seriously taking him on until my second playthrough. I also didn't think Kanon was any kind of damage dealer until second playthrough when I actually put effort in getting her skills. >Angolmois FUCK Seventh Moon holy hell that cheap ass move
>>242571 I didn't played any of the games, what makes this series unique to other JRPGs? >>245071 >4 was always the one that ruined the franchise, to the point that 5 couldn't salvage it. Just like what happened to Halo huh?
>>245627 I didn't played any of the games, what makes this series unique to other JRPGs? Incredibly strong story, exploring a fuckton of locations for loot, active dungeon puzzles that were genuinely fun and not passive lipservice, fun characters, an overworld theme ripped directly from The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly, extra/bonus fights and some dungeons, earning your super powers, not being bogged down in FMVs as was the growing trend at the time thanks to FFVII.... Essentially it was a good, grounded JRPG in a time where they were about to alter in style and content (again, thanks to FFVII). It took the disc space of the PSX and expanded on a fuckton of content & story progression instead of smothering you in superfluous & vapid filler. There was a LOT of meat on those bones to chew through, and it was a lot of fun finding it all. Granted, there were honestly a lot of unique JRPGs in the fifth generation, and a lot of new playstyle ideas tried before "Smother them with movies" took over. Wild ARMs was the one where you didn't have to relearn a system, but put enough new content in there where it was fun to master (the ARM tuning and Crest Graph systems). >Just like what happened to Halo huh? Halo continued on a story that was essentially complete because m'franchise. Wild ARMs 4th Detonator decided to take their core theme of "hope in the bleakest place of adversity", put it out back, and blew it's fucking brains out. 4 swapped dungeon diving for linear hallways and platform puzzling, introduced a kinda-retarded hop skotch battle system that was pretty damn exploitable, cut back on all the extra content, essentially railroading you all the way through the game with very few deviations. And the story was genuine ass, through & through. "World is hopeless, adults are all dicks, grow up and be a loner away from people" was the eventual message. Sucked so damn bad that it actively turned me away from trying WA5. I couldn't even blame different directors because damn-near all the same staff was working on the title.
>>244014 I downloaded Grandia and won't have Internet for a couple or a few days (neet life). I guess I'll have to play it if I don't end up reading books like a nerd. With my favored potato, a win7 32 bit netbook, it seems to work fine with the graphics turned up all the way. For Megaman Legends 2 I had them turned down though as per picture related and the dialog was bleeding through itself hilariously. At high setting, at least at the beginning, it's not lagging though so far anyway. Just some levels in Megaman Legends 2 do. Still, I hate having to mess with the settings. The beginning of Xenogears is full of fuck too by the by (even with the settings high), but then it goes okay. I'm afraid to play Xenogears for that reason but after the intro it's fine. I'd use my android(s) as they often emulate better than the retro emulators I use on the low end netbook/laptops I've always used but it'd feel wrong and I'm on a larger monitor this way and the old laptops don't die suddenly like very breakable low end androids do. Damned flash memory. I'll probably be happier when I get something like a retroid to hook into hdmi, but then I'd have to use some cringe hdmi with no real brightness setting and a glare on it's screen. Anyway, I'll probably go ahead and play Grandia. I need new drives so I can download the following games in completion (as some I already have) though, of which are rgp totally or just have rgp elements: King's Field II Beyond the Beyond Legacy of Kain, Blood Omen Legacy of Kain, Soul Reaver (have) Suikoden Persona Vandal Hearts Wild Arms Ogre Battle Final Fantasy VII (have) Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (have) Alundra Final Fantasy Tactics (have) Diablo Saga Frontier Breath of Fire III Blaze & Blade: Eternal uest (PAL) Azure Dreams (gbc version I have) Granstream Saga Kartia: Word of Fate Parasite Eve (have) Dragon Seeds Tales of Destiny Xenogears (have) Brave Fencer Musashi Brigandine Jade Cocoon Tactics Ogre Guardian's Crusade Legend of Legaia Monster Seed Shadow Madness Lunar Silver Star Story Complete Star Ocean: Second Story Final Fantasy VIII Suikoden II Final Fantasy Anthology Grandia (have) Thousand Arms Shadow Tower Chocobo's Dungeon 2 Koudelka Vandal Hearts II Saga Frontier 2 Alundra 2 Front Mission 3 Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure Vanguard Bandits Wild Arms 2 Vagrant Story Digimon World Legend of Mana Legend of Dragoon Threads of Fate Chrono Cross Valkyrie Profile Parasite Eve 2 (have) RPG Maker Dragon Valor Eternal Eyes Final Fantasy IX Torneko: The Last Hope Harvest Moon: Back to Nature Breath of Fire IV Lunar II: Eternal Blue Complete Persona II: Eternal Punishment Darkstone Digimon World 2 Battle Hunter Technomage (PAL) Saiyuki: Journey West Tales of Destiny II (Eternia) Dragon Warrior VII Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth Arc the Lad Collection Digimon World 3 Final Fantasy Origins Megaman Legends (have) Megaman Legends 2 (have) Though, yes, not actually all jrgp games but have the (easy) gaming elements I'd need to want to play them. And that'd be my jrgp rom/iso collection once I have bigger storage space to the point where I can backup my backup's backups (etc) as a neet. As you can see I lack space very much with how few are 'have'd' in parenthesis.
>>245974 >lunar silver star story Oh wait, gba version I have. Forgot to point that out. *(gba port have) Like the shitty gbc of Azure Dreams I have. Does not count, but still.
>>245974 >Alundra This hurts me to say, but don't bother reading that game too hard. Just play. It's good, but the script is a compete write-off. To not waste a fuckton of time on details: Vic Ireland and Working Designs ruined the script for that game, Lunar, and Lunar 2. ;ie it was "localized".
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You're all forgetting one game. How was it by the way? Never played it but it looks interesting
>>247944 iirc barebones with horrible balance that makes it not fun to play.
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>>247944 It's OK. Biggest issue is it starts slow (better once you get the second set of jobs) and some of the levels are way too dependent upon a single class's ability. Also had a weird mechanic where your units had some kind of energy stats (forget what it's called) which depletes every turn even if you did nothing and kills/disables (forget) a unit if they reach 0, so passing a unit's turn makes their next turn come quicker and makes them useless quicker. I recall this doesn't really matter past the early game since that stats grows like any other while the costs stay static (I think you also get a way to restore it but don't remember for sure).
>>248158 >so passing a unit's turn makes their next turn come quicker and makes them useless quicker I have this game and a psp and have yet to try it, but I would expect their are equip-able items that alter this ?
>>248163 I don't remember. Like I said though, it's not really an issue past early game. Frankly, even then I only remember it being an issue in certain puzzle maps where only one unit could activate the ability you absolutely had to use to start progressing.


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