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Japanese learning thread Anonymous 11/09/2021 (Tue) 19:07:52 Id: 169349 No. 461935
Post questions advice and other jp learning shit Want to learn Japanese? Start here: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html Resource library: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/librarymain.html アノン君頑張れ!
Learn Japanese so you can enjoy high culture such as this.
>>461960 I know just enough Japanese to be able to spot Japanese furry propaganda, and that's good enough for me.
>>461935 Stupid question from someone who just started using Duolingo. Why are there two spellings for the color white. One was shiro and the other was shiroi.
>>462286 Not sure about the correct grammatical rule but shiro is white(ness) while shiro-i is white-like/white-ish (the adjectival/adverbial form of a noun/adjective).
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Has anyone tried out pic related? I saw it a while back and I'm mildly curious if it is worth trying out. Reviews seem mostly positive at a glance. >>462297 Ohhhh ok. That makes sense. I noticed other colors do the same thing as well. Thanks anon.
>>462277 What ever do you mean~ >>462310 I question the utility of using a learning game to learn something as simple as hiragana, but game play videos do show that the game has beginner level lessons and simple word translations. Maybe if you really get enrapt by RPG Maker games you could learn something while playing one, but I'd honestly prefer to do flashcards instead.
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>>461935 just so you know, there is a dead board on the site about this >>>/lang/
>>462333 I can sort of read that image, and I hate it.
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guys is there an easy way to remember past tense negative tense shit
>>471757 >easy way to remember verb tenses Yeah learn Russian instead, both english and Russian have simple verb tenses.
>>472287 Why don't you say the same about most languages in Europe? Nobody has a reason to learn french, German, dutch or swedish besides work. There is a bigger chance the languages on the west die than japanese to stop existing
Gonna leave these here for those that belieb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKg23ZFURX0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG9kpqTRmU From what I gather, if you memorize the translated lyrics to a Japanese song you absolutely love, and sing along in Japanese while fully understanding each sentence you are singing along, you will learn Japanese super fast (at least those sentences, will stay with you and serve as a basis for learning by context)
>>472296 Japan has beautiful surfing spots, the Pacific ocean is made for surfing but I don't live in commiefornia anymore. The Atlantic Ocean you can surf but it isn't as good as the Pacific side
>>472287 "Chinese" isn't exactly a language, it's a massive collection of different languages. Even Mandarin isn't one cohesive language, it's a bunch of different dialects like Lower Yangtze and Minjiang which aren't mutually intelligible.
>>472247 but i want to learn japanese guess ill just cope
What would it be the english equivalent of Kanji? Using random old norse words while writing? >>472287 >It's going to be Isn't it already? >>472296 >Nobody has a reason to learn french, German, dutch or swedish besides work I politely disagree. France has a really big presence in both animation and comics. If you want to get into eurocomics, european animation and festival niche animation you would have to learn french since the frogs make like 90% of the three things I just mentioned.
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>>472287 > Chinese
Good way to memorize the various verb forms?
>>472893 >but i want to learn japanese **never said noun cases are easy >guess ill just cope pretty much the way to learn a new language, don't worry too much about the grammar conjunctions memorization until you become a highly advanced level, grammar fags are usually the ones that get burnt out the quickest .
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>>462310 >Has anyone tried out pic related? Yes, finished in around 15 hours. You will easily learn the alphabet, some common words, and that is about it meaning you now can read basic Jap no problem, you then have to know what the words mean. The jrpg part of the game is very FF1 and FF2 like so it was a good way to learn although a bit old school. Be sure to screenshot the lessons to save for later reference and refreshing.
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I would like to post my treasure of japanese dubbed movies I converted to audio on the go for you fags to enjoy. What would be a good file hosting site to put them on?
>>471757 >guys is there an easy way to remember past tense negative tense shit Change the verb to the negative and replace the final い with かった instead. This conjugation rule applies for both ru-verbs and u-verbs. >行く → 行かない → 行かなかった >帰る → 帰らない → 帰らなかった >起きる → 起きない → 起きなかった
>>473052 >>Good way to memorize the various verb forms? Small reminder beforehand: >All verbs fall into the category of ru-verb or u-verb. >There is an exception of only two verbs that don't fall into either of those two categories (する and 来る). >All ru-verbs end in る while u-verbs can end in a number of u-vowel sounds including る. Therefore if a verb does not end in る, it will always be an u-verb. >For verbs ending in る, if the vowel sound preceding the る is an /a/, /u/, /o/ vowel sound, it will always be an u-verb. >Otherwise if the preceding sound is an /i/ or /e/ vowel sound, it will be a ru-verb in MOST cases. (Examples: 起きる (okiru) is a ru-verb but 帰る (kaeru) is a u-verb) <Negative form >For ru-verbs: Drop the る and attach ない >For u-verbs that end in う: Replace the う with わ and attach ない >For all other u-verbs: Replace the u-vowel sound with the a-vowel equivalent and attach ない Ex. 待つ → 待たない 話す → 話さない >Exception verbs: する → しない, 来る(くる)→ 来ない(こない) <Past Tense >>For ru-verbs: Drop the る part and add た >>For u-verbs: That's the most "complicated" part as it breaks into several sub-categories depending on the last character of the verb >For verbs ending in す: changes into した(話す → 話した) >For verbs ending in く: changes into いた(書く → 書いた) >For verbs ending in ぐ: changes into いだ(泳ぐ → 泳いだ) >For verbs ending in む, ぬ and ぶ: changes into んだ (死ぬ → 死んだ) >For verbs ending in る, つ and う: changes into った(帰る → 帰った) As usual, する and 来る are their own things(する → した ; 来る → きた) <Past-negative tense Covered in the post above <How to extract the stem of verbs (useful to know when trying to conjugate the polite conjugation forms, creating nouns from verbs, smashing two verbs together to form a new one, or as a target with a motion verb for examples) >For ru-verbs: Remove the る(食べる → 食べ ; 見る → 見) >For u-verbs: The last vowel sound changes from an /u/ vowel sound to an /i/ vowel sound(泳ぐ → 泳ぎ ; 帰る → 帰り) >Exception verbs: する → し ; くる → き Examples: >明日、映画を見に行く。 >昨日、友達が遊びに来た。 >着替える (kikaeru - to change (clothes), which is composed from the verb 着る (kiru - to wear) in the stem form and 替える (kaeru - to switch) ) >言い出す (iidasu - to start talking) <Using ~ます to make verbs polite >To conjugate verbs into the masu-form, you attach different conjugations of ます to the stem depending on the tense >Plain: -ます; Negative: -ません ; Past: -ました ; Past-Negative: -ませんでした >Examples: 遊びます、見ました、話しません、etc.
>>473208 don't know, but whatever you use remember to encode the links in base64.

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>>473855 Got it on base64. I was thinking of putting the stuff on mega, but I might stick with anonfiles since it seems that content lasts longer on there than mega. What would be better? Grouping the movies together by companies & uploading them as ZIP packages (which will balloon in size) or making a text bin that has the links to the individual files encoded with base64?
>>473873 >Japanese pronouns WOW JAPAN WILL NEVER CUCK RIGHT GUYS MUH LAST CHERRY BLOSSOM Thanks for dumping those, anon.
>>474297 It is funny when people sperg about the word "pronoun" not realizing what it even means. I've seen people proudly exclaim "I don't have any pronouns!"
>>474317 People throwing the baby out with the bath water just because retards have perverted the original meaning/usage of the word/concept is always exasperating.
>>474289 As a personal experience, anofiles last one month at most and their bandwidth is really mediocre. Stick to mega instead.
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All right aspiring Japanese learning fags & weebs, I've made a mega folder of my Japanese dubbed movies in audio. Use the decoder below to get the link & key. YUhSMGNITTZMeTl0WldkaExtNTZMMlp2YkdSbGNpOVpjekI1VWtGdlF3PT0= X1FrMmpJaVQ0aXpZVGhYS241UGNMUQ== Right now I got Disney movies up for grabs. I mainly wanted to get the animated features but I grabbed some of their other stuff along the way. These Disney films are missing in the library. >Fantasia, Bambi, Saludos Amigos, Three Caballeros, Make Mine Music, Melody Time, Cinderella, Sword in the Stone, Jungle Book, Robin Hood, Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Rescuers, Fox and the Hound, Black Cauldron, Great Mouse Detective, Oliver and Company, Rescuers Down Under, Pocahontas, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Fantasia 2000, Dinosaur, Atlantis Lost Empire, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, Home on the Range, Bolt, Tangled, Winnie the Pooh, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Frozen II, & anything after that. Other studios will be uploaded soon, assuming it doesn't get taken down fast. FAQ >why would I want to listen to dubbed movies I have already seen long time ago, especially from hollywood? <it helps polish your listening skill & picking up what's said because you may already know the basic context of the scenes. Also, it's free real estate & they don't get a single penny from you. >why upload audio instead of video? <video takes up more space & while I find some modificaions made to some movies released in Japan to be nice (such as Inside Out's Riley disgusted at bell peppers instead of broccoli), it wasn't worth the space when one could simply put the extracted audio into a more higher quality rip & save space. >where did you find these? <a japanese website used to host links to openload & other video hosts of these movies. They have since then either been shut down or the links expired which makes searching for them more difficult without resorting to being a buyfag. >why are they mp3 & opus instead of one or the other? <when I first started doing it, my HD space was almost full & I thought mp3s would be a better option due to how many devices played them. A generous anon in the QTDDTOT thread suggested opus as an alternative and so I went with that format. I personally think the quality in opus is pretty good. >do you take requests? <no. >I have japanese dubbed movies or movies with Japanese audio, can I contribute to the project? <yes. >why are the filenames in Japanese? <for immersion purposes. On a side note, it is possible a movie you own might have Japanese audio included as a bonus. Off the top of my head, the USA Blu-Ray of Stuart Little 1 & 2 have Japanese audio + subtitles & the USA 4K release of How the Grinch Stole Christmas also has Japanese audio + subtitles. It would probably be easier to simply find a movie database website & consult from there. The metadata could also maybe use some refining work. 楽しいでください!
>>474578 What an insane commitment. Many thanks, anon, it's people like you that make the internet still worth browsing. Any chance you could take over /lang/?
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>>474578 More studios have been uploaded to the treasure chest! Just to give a few examples of what's inside >Shrek 1 & 2 >Kung Fu Panda Trillogy >Sam Rami's Spider-Man trilogy >Joker >The Matrix >Terminator 1 >007 James Bond Movies >American Psycho I may add more titles if I can find them again. This should be about as great of a treasure for the Japanese learner who wants to build their immersive environments & listen to them on the go or in the background without being tethered to a video screen. I would replace the mp3s I have with opus, but the links have long since disappeared & it's already hard to find them as is, so you'll have to make do with what's been given. I forgot to mention I also don't have Lady & The Tramp for Disney movies. >>474717 >Any chance you could take over /lang/? I'm not sure I'm cut for running boards.
what is the stroke order of those recently added kana to unicode?(and i mean kana, not kanji)
>>475160 also does anyone have the nip dub of "Sheep Wrecked"?
>>474578 shit i forgot to tel you about stuff like https://tools.knowledgewalls.com/online-secret-message-encoder-decoder which allows to to encode the link with password, which then you can apply base64 encoding to, for an extra layer of security
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>>475166 I can upload it to the site since its smaller than 32MB. Quality isn't impressive but the audio could be extracted & put on a more higher quality video rip.
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>>474578 >>475166 I know I'm dumb as fuck but what am I doing wrong?
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>>475518 I didn't use that site
>>475518 just decode them separately UTF-8 t. works on my machine
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>>475548 >>475558 Okay... what am I supposed to do with these things now?
>>475586 that oughta be a mega.nz code, probably? Or rather the key, I'm kinda rusty with this stuff.
>>475586 You got the key, but you must decode the first part again with the new codee you got
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>>475588 >>475620 Okay, I got it. Thanks, man, this is truly a good contribution. You just reminded me I've got the whole first season of Hilda in japanese. I'm going to share it. Which format should I use? the metadata says the audio track is on eac3
>>475643 I used opus on mine to save space & retain good quality audio. These days most players should be able to play the format & even old music players like the iPod will play it as long as RockBox is installed. I assume your content has shorter runtimes because they're tv episodes. Space shouldn't be too big of an issue unless your rips are from Blu-Rays or 4K (and even then I doubt they'll fill up fast.) FLAC would be another good option for your bite sized episodes as the quality will be not only be lossless to you & other anons, but they won't suffer from degeneration everytime an anon might want to convert them to a format they choose. I would avoid mp3 altogether if I can.
>>475660 >forgot to mention I put in this command in Audacity when I convert to opus I don't remember the exact number when I asked in the other thread, but it was 60 something. It will still sound good ffmpeg -i - -c:a libopus -b:a 64k "%f"
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>>475660 >>475662 I'm getting this error message, what am I doing wrong?
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>>475670 I'm not sure why, I just looked it up & it worked for me on audacity. I can only guess skimming from my searches that it might not be happy with one of the commands I put on.
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>>474970 In case you have a Netflix account, would you do me the favor of ripping the jap dub of The Mitchells vs. the Machines for me? both video and audio. use Anystream to rip it. here's a working proxy to access the dub and use together with Anystream to rip the movie in case you don't have vpn. SOCKS4 4145
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Anyone got suggestions for a good USB Blu-Ray ripper? I read some will work with 4K discs but only under certain conditions from the skimming I did. I bought these two disney movies dirt cheap.
>>477961 They guy already said he's not taking requests and he got the audio tracks from an already taken down japanese webpage
>>472516 ...does baka mitai count
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HUGE UPDATE FOR THE JAPANESE DUB LIBRARY A lot more titles have been added to the collection. Same link that is in the BASE64 code above. Had some movies downloaded some time ago saved on another hard drive and encoded them into the opus format they were meant to be in. Now here are are some more titles I have uploaded. >Bambi, Fantasia, Three Caballeros, Cinderella, & Tangled for Disney <with the exception of Tangled, the classic animated movies don't have the songs in Japanese (considering how I couldn't find Bambi anywhere during my searches, they will have to do as a compromise until a better rip exists.) The opening logo of Tangled also isn't perfect but it may seem trivial to the casual listener. >Ice Age trilogy, Die Hard 1, Idiocracy, Home Alone 1, & Star Wars Prequels Trilogy along with Episode V on 20th. >Adams Family 2019, 007 Goldfinger, & 007 Thunderball on MGM >Cape Feare, Parts 2 & 3 of Back to the Future, the Jim Carrey Grinch movie from 2000, & Jaws on Universal >TMNT 2006, Scooby Doo 2: Monster Panic, Tom & Jerry The Movie 1992, & entire Harry Potter Saga on WB >Kick Ass on Lionsgate >Indiana Jones & the Raiders of the Lost Ark on Paramount >and more While I earlier said that a site I used to get the movies from no longer existed & made searching for them difficult, I found a new one that functions just like it right down to its design. They seem to mostly be using niconico douga as their host with a few exceptions. https://yume551.com/ A little quick guide on navigating the site. >洋画 is movies from outside of Japan, 邦画 is movies from Japan, & アニメ is, well, anime & animated movies >字幕 is Japanese subtitles (hardsubbed) & 吹替 or 吹き替え is Japanese dubbed audio >some links for the title may be expired & aren't availible. All you can really do is check back & hope they return with a working one (Their twitter seems more like a bot reposting their content) >Dood & Gyao don't seem to be reliable sources Consider this an ultimate Christmas present!
>>496075 どうもありがとうございます
It's pretty hilarious to see chinese learning thread as the only one being spammed with fuck china screenshots. But seriously FUCK CHINA I found an archive of a russian thread where they learn japanese. Lots of russian obviously, though i did see some books and links in english. Hope it helps (arhivach dot ng/thread/751148/)
anyone have any recommendations for youtube channels I can watch to improve my listening comprehension

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