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The sorry state of FPS games Anonymous 09/07/2022 (Wed) 21:21:01 Id: b960c9 No. 685509
The past decade has been pretty awful to the FPS genre especially late last year, but the biggest sin and what truly bother anons here is that fucking Destiny is the best of the worst. As the bar was set so fucking low that Destiny doing base shit at it's bare minimum made it have a more stable playerbase then the others, what the fuck is going on with FPS games?
>>685509 FPS is doing fine. Doom Eternal was the best ever in the genre.
>>685509 Why did you ruin Erikku's art by adding a shitty Shadman filter?
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>>685513 The best thing about NuDoom were the models that got ripped for hardcore bara SFM
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 is going to be aids i just know it
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AAA is cancer, what else is new? If you think 2007-2012 were some sort of golden years you need to kill yourself.
>>685580 That game will never release on any platform outside of reality where it's been in EA since February.
>>685580 I've seen nothing to indicate that but I've seen how "long awaited sequel to classic franchise" turns out so many times not to feel cynical. >Deus Ex: Human Revolution >Bioshock (for System Shock) >Thief 4 >Fallout 3 >Doom 4 Strangely, all these games were praised heavily despite being watered down imitations of their namesake. Not to say they're bad, of course I like DE:HR.
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>>685509 >tfw no First person Snooter
>>685594 >Bioshock (for System Shock) >Fallout 3 Both of these were fixed with their following entry, but you're still correct.
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>>685580 >>685592 >>685594 Considering that some of it was developed and is still being developed while bombs and people die everyday. It's either going to be a masterpiece or a complete train wreck. I expect the last though, all the cinematic shit, consoles and the pre order cancer were telling. >>685615 I wouldn't say fixed Bioshock 2 is better than 1 but still not even close to the heights of System Shock 1 or 2. New Vegas, while top tier, still has a ton of retarded systems leftover from Toddout 3.
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>>685582 I rather those years back that's how fucking shit things are. >>685617 >New Vegas, while top tier, still has a ton of retarded systems leftover from Toddout 3. New Vegas did so much right.
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Why has nobody ever followed in the footsteps of Perfect Dark? >Sci-Fi futuristic James Bond setting >Massive campaign >Local co-op and counter-op >Massive multiplayer vs mode with programmable AI bots and custom weapon loadouts >Yes body armor, NO regenerating shields or health I'm also sick to death more generally of the "quasi-religious dark western fantasy" shit. It's fucking everywhere. Souls this and Blood that and Demons this and Diablo that. I'm so sick of it all. That setting is so played out it could be used as a backdrop at a Nickelback concert.
>>685645 They're making a new one, Crystal Dynamics is co-developing it.
>>685647 >Crystal Dynamics is co-developing it. I'm mixed on them.
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>>685645 I am also kinda surprised not more people copied PD difficulty setings, they dont just make the enemies hit harder they also add a bunch of new objectives that you have to do. I think thats neat. There is a golden eye clone being made called "Agent 64" but that doesn't have the futuristic setting.
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>>685625 >rather those years back Yeah, seeing the medium turn to shit all over again is something totally great! Seeing all those medium sized and small companies going bankrupt and seeing all those IPs being bought by EA, Activision and Ubisoft is something totally great! Seeing Gaylo and COD ruin the FPS genre forever, oh boy, please take me back! Fucking retard
>>685940 Halo didn't ruin anything. Everybody else just took the wrong lessons from it.
>>685980 Pretty much, if anything, COD did more to damage the FPS world after modern warfare.
>>685594 Bioshock is so much simpler and easier than System Shock that I can barely see the similarity.
>>685645 >Why has nobody ever followed in the footsteps of Perfect Dark? Because it takes effort, and western devs are all hacks. >I'm also sick to death more generally of the "quasi-religious dark western fantasy" shit. It's fucking everywhere. You are a minority. The majority of people welcome that with open arms.
>>685940 >Seeing Gaylo and COD ruin the FPS genre forever This. A lot of shills deny that, but COD and Baby's First FPS DID kill the whole genre and are directly responsible for the normalfag infestation.
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>>685980 >Halo didn't ruin anything. <Halo 1 popularized console FPS and brought it to mainstream <Halo 2 even worse but no atmosphere, shittier weapons and a poorly written dogshit story <Halo 2 popularized matchmaking <Halo 2 popularized paid online <Halo 2 popularized paid map packs <Halo 2 brought Microsoft and Xbox to relevancy along with Halo 3 bringing in tons of cancer to the medium Fuck out of here, Halo 1 was bad enough, Halo 2 and 3 literally brought upon the cancer we see now from AAA.
>>686027 <Halo 1 popularized console FPS and brought it to mainstream Wasn't that Goldeneye?
>>686028 Nothing on the level of Halo
I feel the same way about Halo as reddit-11 does about Half-Life; don't hate it, but hate the influence it had. IMO Medal of Honor was far worse, it led to CoD and Battlefield and all the other generic "spunkgargleweewee" military shooters that casuals love so much. >>685509 The FPS genre is getting better though, OP. SGWW type shooters are much rarer now and there's been a huge return to classic FPS design in the indie scene and in some cases mid-level AA developers as well. >Destiny is the best of the worst >more stable playerbase then the others Are you talking about multiplayer FPS? Because you were doomed from the start there, FPS designed with multiplayer in mind exclusively were always barebones and bland even going back to Quake 3.
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>>686036 >I hate MoH >"spunkgarglewee Get the fuck out of here Yathzee and take your shit opinions with you.
>>686045 >doesn't like Halo >but likes Medal of Honor Anon, Medal of Honor started the entire trend of modern console shooters
>>686045 Medal of Honor sucks man, so does every other WW1/WW2 shooter from the PS1 and PS2 era. Just because you played them as a kid doesn't mean they're good.

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>>685617 >I expect the last though, all the cinematic shit, consoles and the pre order cancer were telling. And don't forget about this Gem!
>say something slighty negative about doom and it's derivatives here and in the doom/retro fps thread >deleted kys mark
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>>686053 >>686055 Allied Assault, the best one, was PC exclusive and had no 2 weapon limit or regen health.
>>686027 >Halo 1 popularized console FPS and brought it to mainstream What about Medal of Honor and Goldeneye? >Halo 2 popularized matchmaking What about Diablo and Quake? > Halo 2 popularized paid online What about Heat.net? > Halo 2 popularized paid map packs What about the monthly Doom and Quake map packs ?
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>>686142 >What about Diablo and Quake? Neither of those have matchmaking, What the fuck are you on about?
>>686144 I miss dedicated servers and LAN. I remember having so much fun playing 1.6, Sacred, Diablo 2, and Unreal Tournament with my sister's then fiancé over LAN and then heading to the PC cafe he worked at on weekends and having dusk till dawn events where we and a couple of other guys would play CSS, Quake 3, Enemy Territory, Unreal Tournament '04, Ricochet, and a whole heap of other games. I miss those times.
>>685940 Still rather those days.
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>>686027 Most of these issues were present in other games before and during Halo. >>686061 Jesus.
>>686061 At least it was axed due to blow-back, but the cynic in me worries what else might rear head in this as if to imply I have high hopes for this, I try not to
>>686179 I miss getting to know the people I played with so much it's unreal. Coming back to the same servers, you'd eventually build friendships. These days, how can you even begin to get to know someone new when the guy you got match made with last match will never be in a game with you ever again?
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Honestly it seems like the only shooters not fucked to hell in back are multiplayer tactical shooters like Insurgency, Tarkov, and Arma. Which even then have their own host of problems and autism to go through.
>>685513 doom eternal is inferior to 2016 in every way
>>693778 Platforming in first person is the worst
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>>693823 Why are you getting all your info from secondhand accounts? Just play the game and see for yourself if it's any good. Piratebay is right over there if you don't wanna pay for it. I played both Doom 2016 and Eternal and I think they're pretty fun, although the plot is some reddit-tier edgy fanfiction nonsense, and the DLC chapters for Eternal are bullshit hard.
>>693839 I played both on Nightmare and they're shit
>>693839 >Why are you getting all your info from secondhand accounts? What the fuck does that even mean? That's not even an argument. >Just play the game and see for yourself if it's any good. I played DOOM 2016 and I think it was enough for me. I don't get why Id didn't made these games similarly to the first two that had the fast-paced gameplay with some of its dungeon crawling elements. >spoiler That was one of the reasons why I avoided Eternal for a while. I don't like how they made Doomguy into a edgy, dark messiah instead of a stoic, marine that's driving the Demons back to Hell because its the right thing to do.
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Realm's Deep had a lot of good games shown if anybody cares. There's one that caught my eye called Sprawl which is obviously trying to look like EYE: Divine Cybermancy. Not even subtle about it. >>693823 >Doomsiders Forced meme.
Playing through a bunch of demos this realms deep none of them are bad but like the last couple of years this promise can just not be captilized on and I feel none of the games I've played demos of will release within a reasonable timeframe. Plus the released games while super fun just felt short of my expectations. Dusk was ok but I'd rather replay Quake instead while waiting for that totally all encompassing SDK to release. Amid Evil was pretty and not much else. Ion Fury was fun but I hated the enemy composition and weaponset. Neon White was good but I wanted more of it. shadow warrior 3 was mildly fun for some time and then a slog for the rest of it and I cannot be bothered to pirate Doom 2016 or Eternal because they're so large and it seems Eternal isn't fully cracked(for some of the later content). >>693918 >Digging deeper after the Phantom Fury reveal because it looked awesome >not voidpoint but Slipgate ironworks. >look around for information on Ion fury Aftershock >apparently voidpoint's working part time, without a budget on it which is why they couldn't show anything
>>693918 >Forced meme. I wanted to say that at first but when you play Darksiders and nuDoom they do have some similarity, now it's not a fucking clone but I can see why anons here and some on the doomforums have referred to it in such a manner. now whether or not that's a bad thing I'll leave for anons to decide
>>685547 >were the models that got ripped for hardcore bara SFM Anon, I have several questions on how fucking big faggot you are. While yes the monster on girl sfm videos are faggotry in a way, but being a literal faggot is way worse then this.
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>>685547 >following the bara ones >not the ones where the models are edited to be female
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>>685547 Care to post any examples?
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>>694644 Since you asked so nicely, here's something recent
>>694644 What the fuck is your problem?
>>695506 I regret clicking on that spoiler with no context while expecting tits or some shit.
>>695506 DeeP DooM
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>>693918 >There's one that caught my eye called Sprawl which is obviously trying to look like EYE: Divine Cybermancy. I cannot get where you're coming from. The game just seems like an arena parkour FPS, I cannot see the EYE influence at all in terms of gameplay.
>>695924 Not in gameplay, but it looks like New Eden from EYE.
>>694597 But seriously he needs to be a faggot to only think of that?
>>695506 As much as fucking gay this shit is, I'm now interested in demon girls. Hot succubi or Baronesses of Hell, as long as she loves me, I'm not picky.
>>695974 Go to doom thread on /monster/ bro.
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>>695974 >he thinks demons from hell will ever truly love him Anon please, the denizens of hell are the worst of humanity. They are the kinda jealous and spiteful women who regularly cucked their husbands in life. Dont be with one of these, Place your faith in our lord and saviour Jesus Kristus. You will get a cute angel GF who genuinely loves you.
>>696014 >posts demon porn <anon don't be attracted to demons Anon you need to figure out how to get messaging across better
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>>696041 You need to pray to our lord and saviour Jesus Kristus.
I just wish for the doom retrokids to die, is that too much to ask for? Ever since Brutal Doom popularized it back, you have these deluded retards who think the whole world kept playing Doom for 30 years because it's such a timeless masterpiece. When in reality, it was abandoned by 1999 and everyone wanted for something more.
>>696014 >They are the kinda jealous and spiteful women who regularly cucked their husbands in life. Wait, I got my hell mixed up, are the demons and the damned the same thing?
>>696063 I like to think that they are.
>>696045 >you have these deluded retards who think the whole world kept playing Doom for 30 years because it's such a timeless masterpiece No, the only Doom they obsess over is Doom II, the original Doom is left as a footnote because they played nothing beyond what was in the original shareware release.
>>696045 Fuck are you talking about? I was playing doom wads in 2012 and I have never even played brutal doom.
>>696080 There is no dissociating from BD fam, it was responsible for bringing back the fad and arguably even Doom 2016 and Eternal. You smoked BD but didn't inhale lol
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>>696080 He's some shitposter who's been doing this in every FPS-adjacent thread, I'd point to his other posts but the vols deleted them Usually I don't engage in >le every1 I don't like is le same person!!!1! schizoposting but he specifically he calls Doom fans kids or kiddies and this board's users are slow low that a quirk like that is easily noticeable and unlikely to be done by several people
>>695966 Well we are on /v/.
>>696014 >Cute brown tsundere tomboy imp Truly, the devil knows the weakness of men, and is a master of temptation.
>>696014 I don't like when they have hair, or are post puberty.
>>696477 >tfw no loli cacodemon
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>>696063 Sometimes the damned can become demons, but mostly demons are the angels that rebelled with Lucifer and were cast out of heaven.
>>696042 Even demons can be helped. They can become good girls too. Hell in arthurian legend one demon changed his way and became a Christian monk.
>>696642 >Arthurian legend Merlin's entire backstory is that his dad was an Incubus and he was supposed to be the anti-christ, but was baptized and raised to be a good man. At least in the christianized version.
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Here's something that makes my head scratch - "simulating" suppression fire by blurring vision. This is somehow okay when it ruins gameplay by blinding you and making you crawl towards waist height wall to get cover. Some people even defend it as they laugh at cod with its jelly screen that does the same thing. Why do many newer games follow such shit?
>>696746 Dont think I have played any games with that kinda suppression blur. looks annoying as fuck though, I really hate it when games just in general block my view.
>>696746 >>696747 What if it's an simulator or half-simulator like squad, which does have blurring vision for near explosions.
Have you anons tried Severed Steel? I picked it up on sale after seeing a trailer for it it reminded me of Mirror's Edge which I loved. It's one part fast-FPS run and gun and 2 parts parkour stunt simulator with destructive environments and a pretty good soundtrack. Its hard as fucking balls on normal difficulty but I'm enjoying it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCR4QWG08xM
Seems like loads of great shooters are coming out. Like it's better than it's been in 15 years
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>>696746 Because it makes MGs actually useful for supression? It's not like you have actual life preservation in a videogame. In Battlefield 3 it actually made sense, and the moment they removed it in 4 and subsequent games, MGs became absolutely fucking useless shit. You're also posting a Tactical Shooter with Hell Let Loose you retard. In COD it makes no sense, it's a super arcade shooter where the balancing and gameplay is all about gun stats. You remind me of the Haloniggers that say that picking up items manually in Crysis with a dedicated animation was bad and that Crysis 2 and 3 did it better because you just walk over them. I hate this one size fits all bullshit, and your two images, one of a tactical shooter, and other of an arcade shooter is the epitome of that cancer. Reminds me of every RTS trying to be fucking Starcraft or ASSFAGGOTs instead of being their own thing. 7th Gen and AAA has rotten peoples brains.
>>696819 >You remind me of the Haloniggers that say that picking up items manually in Crysis with a dedicated animation was bad and that Crysis 2 and 3 did it better because you just walk over them. Wait, people actually bitch about stuff like that? I always attributed it to a design decision. -t. a "Halonigger"
>>696821 Yes, they're ADD ridden retards who don't care about immersion or interactivity.
>>696819 >7th Gen For all the shit I give 7th gen it's still less cancer then current gen by a long shot.
>>696935 Consoles have never recovered since then, in terms of games, much better outside AAA cancer.
>>696969 By that, I mean nowadays game are better in general.
>>696977 > game are better in general. Games are super dumbed down in general both indie and AAA wise.
>>697064 >Games are super dumbed down in general That was literally 7th Gen, if anything games have more depth now outside AAA, to the point old and new genres popped up again.
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>>696819 >its good because its "realistic" >its tactical shooter, so its allowed >inhibiting vision in fps is okay when we do it Hell let loose actually does this pretty good, I should say. Suppression actually helps your squad push up and getting pinned down actually makes your other teammates instinctively defensive so you actually huddle and survive more often, rather than just be cut down by mg42. Maybe this got started from day of defeat.
>Prodeus has 4 player co-op I'm getting tempted here but the fact that the game has been in EA for years and hasn't gone on sale any lower than 15 bux bothers me a lot. Has anyone played it? Any good, shit, so-so?
>>697354 IIRC one of Valve's guidelines (as in recommended but unenforced) is that Early Access games aren't meant to go on sale or, if they do, not by much, because the point is not to make sales to the general audience but to people actually invested in the project or something.
>>697341 Yes, it's a fucking tactical shooter, not an arcade one, the whole point is immersion, even if it hurts your sole performance, you're supposed to act as a team. You don't want supression, communicate to your teammates to flank the MG. >DoD No, Day of Defeat never did this, that is also an arcade shooter, a team based arcade shooter, but an arcade shooter nonetheless. If anything MGs in that game are a pain in the ass as the sound they make is super low and due to Source jankery, it sometimes doesn't even make a sound outside the bullets hitting the geometry around you. First time I saw a game do this was Battlefield 3, and it did it well, but everyone bitched because by that point in time the franchise was nothing but CODkiddie faggots who started with Bad Company 2.
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>>697075 >if anything games have more depth now
>>697702 >conveniently ignoring the "outside of AAA" part Nigger


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