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/vhs/ Movie Night Thread Anonymous 09/23/2020 (Wed) 06:41:50 Id: 685acc No. 21 [Reply] [Last]
Check for weekly movie nights. Every Friday at 5pm PST - 8pm EST At: https://cytu.be/r/OverlookTheater T̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶a̶t̶c̶h̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶v̶i̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶h̶a̶n̶n̶e̶l̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶e̶m̶b̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶T̶a̶m̶p̶e̶r̶m̶o̶n̶k̶e̶y̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶G̶r̶e̶a̶s̶e̶m̶o̶n̶k̶e̶y̶ ̶d̶e̶p̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶w̶s̶e̶r̶:̶ ̶h̶t̶t̶p̶s̶:̶/̶/̶c̶y̶t̶u̶.̶b̶e̶/̶g̶o̶o̶g̶l̶e̶_̶d̶r̶i̶v̶e̶_̶u̶s̶e̶r̶s̶c̶r̶i̶p̶t̶ You no longer need the script to be able to watch movies. Also post movie suggestions for future movie nights.
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I'm looking forward two a whole month of Christmas movies anons.

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Kung Fu & Martial Arts Chop Socky Buffet Anonymous 12/01/2020 (Tue) 00:06:13 Id: 544b7d No. 186 [Reply]
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>>523 I was looking this movie up on IMDB again the other day and I found that I had somehow missed this nugget when we watched this movie earlier this year >The clan featured in the film, the Ii (sometimes spelled Iyi) have produced one of the most important and controversial figures of modern Japanese history: Ii Naosuke, Chief policymaker of the Tokugawa Shogunate best known for signing the Harris Treaty with the United States, granting access to ports for trade to American merchants and seamen and extraterritoriality to American citizens. So it Iyi clan in the movie actually was the Ii clan.
More about Ii Naosuke >Under Ii Naosuke’s guidance, the Tokugawa shogunate navigated past a particularly difficult conflict over the succession to the ailing and childless Tokugawa Iesada. Ii Naosuke managed to coerce the Tokugawa shogunate to the last brief resurgence of its power and position in Japanese society before the start of the Meiji period. Ii was assassinated in the Sakuradamon incident by a group of 17 Mito and 1 Satsuma samurai on March 24, 1860 >Ii became involved in national politics, rapidly rising to lead a coalition of daimyōs. In 1853 Ii put forward a proposal concerning the Japanese negotiations with U.S. Commodore Matthew C. Perry during Perry's mission to open Japan to the outside world. Realizing that Japan was faced with immediate military danger[3][4] Ii argued that Japan should use their relationship with the Dutch to allow them to buy enough time to develop armed forces, which could resist invasion. Ii recommended that only the port of Nagasaki be opened for trade with foreigners[5] Ii, like Hotta Masayoshi, refused to remain silent while shogunal advisor Abe Masahiro appeased the anti-foreign party.[6] Ii led the fudai daimyōs in their effort to bring about the downfall of Abe Masahiro and replace him with Hotta Masayoshi. This alienated many reformist daimyōs, leading them to strengthen their association with the Imperial court.
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I saw the original Flying Guillotine movie the other day. While it's probably a better movie than Master or Fatal, I didn't really enjoy it quite as much as either of those. It's still worth a watch to see how the concept got started and it's a fair "martial arts" movie on its own right.

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Movies so bad you couldn't even finish Anonymous 10/15/2021 (Fri) 12:40:46 Id: a1bd84 No. 907 [Reply]
I really was looking forward to a long ass unrelated-to-the-series treatise on race relations in 1960's-70's Newark too, shame they had to stick those few scenes related to the Sopranos in there.
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>>991 >I think you're missing the point of some of the older movies, though. I understand the themes you're saying are the ones Smith consciously intended, but I was just pointing out that the real world incest reflected in Reboot grossed me out enough to make me less tolerant of the degeneracy in his other movies. But what I really didn't like about Reboot was how it deliberately leans into the "reboot" tropes as if they are good, with little to no commentary on them. Again, for an example of a movie with the exact same premise, just in a slasher context instead of a stoner comedy context, see Scream 4, which actually uses its premise for commentary on the topic while respecting its past and still being an effective entry in its series and genre. Jay and Silent Bob reboot not only fails at the commentary, but it fails at the comedy. Its commentary, if anything, seems to just be saying that the tropes it lampshades are good things, and like so many Hollywood reboots, it just shits on the old movies and old protagonists. And maybe I could overlook this if it was at least funny, but again, like so many Hollywood reboots, it sucks on its own, which only makes its shitting on its predecessors all the more angering. I'm sure there are worse reboots, but I haven't watched them. But I loved Smith's early work, and Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back in particular, enough to give this one a chance. The fact that it had the same writer/director and star, and so many of the other people involved in his older movies as well, gave me just enough faith to give it a chance. I was mistaken, and it's seeing that my faith was so misplaced that makes it hurt all the more. >>999 When I first saw the Matrix sequels, I didn't understand them and thought they were stupid. 15 years later I watched them again. This time, I didn't understand them and thought I was stupid. They convinced me that maybe they were actually saying something and it was my fault for not getting it. They convinced me that they were actually smart movies. I fully expect the forthcoming fourth movie to dispel me of that illusion, however.

Wheel of Time - Please kill me edition Anonymous 11/22/2021 (Mon) 22:51:11 Id: c46291 No. 988 [Reply]
I have watched this shitshow so you don't have to. I come back transformed and eternally mad the Amazon jews decided to sully another of my favorite book series. At this point, my eternal hatred is the only thing keeping me sane. Here a few of my takes: - The show opens with the Red Aja sect of the Aes Sedai pursuing a man who can use magic. In the lore, the men's side of the source of magic is tainted and every man who can use magic become irrevocably crazy. Since the men's side is effectively more powerful, a mad mage is fucking real danger and the women mage (Aes Sedai) pursue them to protect them and the world. The last man who got mad with OP magic "broke the world". - The Red Aja Aes Sedai say something about magic being meant for women and that men shouldn't use it because it is theirs, but men can't use the women's magic, it is just for some grrlll power bullshit. - The main characters are in their 20s in the movie but 15 in the book. Perrin, who is black in the show, is married to an aryan white woman but it is pure fanfiction. - Bel Tine, the celebration in the village at the start is for spring, they changed it for some 'remember the dead' bullshit, I don't know why. - One of the effect of the Dark One awakening it that Winter doesn't let go, they just didn't portray this. - They waste a whole episode on the background of the Two-Rivers but nothing is in the fucking book, pure fanfiction there again. Especially everything about the village's Wisdom and the Women's Circle. You can guess why. - They are weaving some complicated romance between two character that just isn't completely there in the book. Yes there is tension but the fact they must run for their fucking lives make it so they don't have time for this. - They missed a character, one of the most important, and introduced him in episode 3 in a village that doesn't exist with two people that shouldn't be there in a situation that it again pure fabrication. - During their escape, they use a river crossing boat that they sink after to not let the Trollocs catch them. In the book the river passer is mad as fuck and Moiraine juste pay him more. In the show he babble about his son or some shit and then jump in the water and drown for no fucking reason. - They mixed up the escape, in the book they escape to a city called Baerlon, stay a few day, Nyanaeve catch up with them and then leave. After Baerlon they are forced to take refuge in Shadar Logoth, a spooky city with weird shit. In the show they skip immediately to Shadar Logoth but with missing characters what happens don't make sense. - In Shadar Logoth they try to flee but are separated by the spooky death mist, in the book they flee while being pursued by the Trollocs, this is why they go out at night in the spooky city. In the show they omit the pursuing Trollocs and Eyeless so it makes no sense. - A super important plot point in Shadar Logoth is that Mat, the resident Pippin, meet a stranger who convince try to convince the kids to take a treasure. Since they are fucking 15 years old kids they don't mind the stranger danger but Mat still steal a dagger. It will curse him and become important because of the stranger. In the show he finds the dagger in some rubble. - Since they are missing characters, the order and teams in which they flee is all mixed up and then we get to episode 3 with the village that doesn't exist and the situation that is completely made up. Theyre they encounter Tom Merrilyn, the bard, but he should've been there since the beginning. This is on the top of my head. By fucking it up so bad I don't mind it as much as before, they just did their own fanfiction bullshit. The books stay superior, read them and never watch that trainwreck. I just hope they make it to the Seanchan landfall, these fuckers don't tolerate mages and use them as weapon by treating like dogs. It was a chapter full of mindbreak and humiliation for the captured Aes Sedai and it sent me on a sadpanda binge back then.
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>>990 So I went to see in the books and couldn't find anything about age. It might have been how I imagined it because these characters can be retarded sometimes. I'll let this point slide.
You know for the longest time I felt like I kept having deja vu since this series (The Wheel of TIme) would crop up alongside A Wrinkle in Time, and both were popular book series when I was in school turned shitty live action adaptations. Not surprised they both turned out shit. From what you say OP it sounds like either a very rushed production or it was just produced by someone who didn't know/care about the source material. >>992 It's incredibly common for live action actors to be way older than the characters they play. They probably just went "fuck it" and figured it's easier to write the characters in as the same age their actors are/look to be.
>>996 >The Wheel of Time Wait no A Wrinkle in Time fuck you see what I mean

Trash films 07/08/2021 (Thu) 23:23:16 Id: 000000 No. 725 [Reply]
Anons plz help me. I wanna see to many transh films on tor but i cant find some link. Anons help me plz i REALLY want to watch this
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>>727 I see a 2018 zombie flick. A 2002 mockumentary. And another horror film from 2014. You need to be more specific.
>>742 He's looking for the 2014 one. It's hardly a horror "film", more like a montage of random gory/off-putting clips. Hence why I asked his reasons for wanting to watch it.
>>747 How do you know he's looking for the 2014 one? The 2002 one is better anyway.

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What are you watching? Anonymous 10/07/2020 (Wed) 05:44:12 Id: 09411b No. 89 [Reply]
And what are you planning on watching? Any cool TV shows, Documentaries or Movies? I've been watching my VHS collection of Rocky and Bullwinkle.
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>Charlie Wilson's War Tom Hanks proves once again he is a terrible dramatic actor. Only his comedy lands. His shitty Georgia accent has to stand-in for a Texas one and it doesn't hold up. He's basically playing the same character he did in The Ladykillers a few years prior, which makes it extra funny. The rest of the movie is your usual Sorkin meme. Everyone has barbed dialogue and it tries to make some grand statement about American foreign policy. Pretty forgettable. >North by Northwest Working on watching anything Hitchcock I've missed, and this one has been in the backlog for a long time. It's a fun, big-budget thriller. Like most Hitchcock films, it stars Cary Grant as a normal guy who gets stuck in some extraordinary circumstance and falls in love with a blonde in the process. Despite the trappings of a spy thriller, the movie had far less suspense than your average Hitchcock. Rear Window is still king as far as I'm concerned. North by Northwest feels a lot more like a typical blockbuster, which is impressive for its day but not as notable as his other work. It was still entertaining, and a great movie, but the big setpieces have not held up as well as I'd have liked.
>Heathers I decided to check out the movie after hearing high praise about it over the years. I was fairly disappointed. Christian Slater's Jack Nicholson impression was so prominent, I had this scene from The Critic in my head the whole time. Veronica Sawyer is supposed to be some genius, yet acts shocked when J.D. outright shoots two students after he has already proved he has no qualms with killing. >Survival Style 5+ Whatever the hell this was. Boring overall with some good moments. Would not recommend. >>772 How did you interpret the end of The Sopranos?
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>Star Trek Slowly been watching the whole franchise and am only up to Season 3 of Next Generation right now. I don't get the hate for the fifth movie. It's not that great, but neither is 3 or 4. Frankly, I could narrow down TOS to like 30 of the best episodes, then I'd recommend the first two movies, and say just to stop there. People say Next Gen gets better in Season 3, but I still don't like it as much as TOS. I also watched all four Scream movies. Saw the first three when they were new, never saw 4 before. I was surprised at how good 4 was. A worthy sequel, and I appreciate that it actually had something to say about films, and specifically films of its era. It felt like it had a reason to exist. The whole series is very clever, and benefits from being maybe the only slasher series, or horror series, with actual interesting and likable characters. Other series sometimes have one good character that carries the series, like Freddy, or Chucky, or Dr. Loomis, but Scream consistently has a whole cast of good characters in every movie. Not all of them are great, but they're mostly memorable. Also, the commentary on the film industry and horror genre helps make it feel a little less mindless than most horror movies. Though Scream 4 was great, I dread what Scream 5 will be like without Wes Craven, especially since Kevin Williamson isn't even writing. 3 was already the weakest, likely due to Williamson not writing it, and I have to imagine the people they get to replace him in current year will be even worse than the people who replaced him in 2000.

Legend of Galactic Heroes Anonymous 11/18/2021 (Thu) 00:10:58 Id: b16e7e No. 967 [Reply]
So this anime is shilled a lot, and yesterday I finally was convinced to try it out. I began with the prequel movie "My conquest is the sea of stars", and I have serious issues with the last ten minutes, and nowhere else more appropriate to air them. There's a giant fleet engagement with about a million vessels taking part, as the democratic "good guys" are getting creamed they come up with a move to win. Three guys take a ship and kick everyone else off (if these ships don't need gunners to fire the guns, engineers to oversee the powerplant, marines for boarding actions, or even crewman to man radar. Then why the hell are these ships manned at all?) Then fly up to the enemy commander, come along side and sit there. The entire warzone goes quiet. Everyone to afraid to fire a single shot, EVEN MILLIONS OF KILOMETRES AWAY, for fear the commanders vessel might be struck. The "good guys" (who were getting crushed) use this confusion to sail away in peace, leaving this single vessel with three crewman alone behind enemy lines. Then that ship leaves too. That was the summary and already I bet many can see the obvious issues with this plot. 1. Coming alongside another vessel does indeed mean you probably won't be targeted by canon fire, sure, BUT that simply means you are commiting a boarding action. Pistols and sabers time. So why doesnt the "imperialistic" "badguy" commander sound repel boarders and? Or when it's clear he isn't being boarded, BOARD THE OTHER SHIP. 2. why the fuck would you let the enemy go? 3. Why would a ship fighting off boarders (which has been a common occurence for so long as naval vessels have existed I.E. all of western history) silence not just his own side, but the other side as well? 4. In a battlespace billions of kilometres wide why would anyone else give a shit? 5. Why let the enemy suicide vessel go? Why would noone take a potshot after it left the side of the commanders ship? 6. Is the entire series this monumentally retarded? Did the author even look into naval tactics from any century? 7. Will it get better? I mean what kinda ship doesn't have marines on board? How is there no procedure for dealing with a close in enemy? Traditionally you board it, kill the crew, and then cut away boarding ropes, wait til you are out of range of it exploding, and then sink the bastard. Or you take control of the enemy vessel, crew it, and keep fighting now with another ship in your flotilla. I just don't understand how that was a conundrum that has never occured in that animes world. Simple fucking shit guys.

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Good quality DUNC torrent out already Anonymous 10/17/2021 (Sun) 10:22:22 Id: f07f97 No. 915 [Reply]
Fucking huge (10gb) but it's real, not a cam 42E9B35D
This was surprisingly good and more faithful to the book than I thought it'd be for the couple brainless woke choices that got made. Ends in a really weird spot for a film, but that was expected since they split the book. Totally expected to hate it and be pissed off from how wrong it got it all, but I actually hope the sequel happens now.
>>918 Was not expecting to see that kind of reaction. Interesting to see it was not as bad as everyone thought.

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Japan is Remaking Cube Anonymous 02/02/2021 (Tue) 01:25:49 Id: 73afdc No. 331 [Reply]
Apparently the long rumored remake of Cube got shunted over to Japan. Given their history with torture porn films, this could either be a blessing or a total disaster. Either way, I think I'll have to watch it. Source: https://archive.vn/lO0Fm It's coming out this year, too, so it may have already been filmed.
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Can't be worse than 2. We should watch it for Halloweeiner.
no suck thing as "disaster" in JP trash. Trash is trash. PS. me prefer dorama, no trash, just love
>>839 >TORtranny >Spewing bullshit It's like these two things cannot be seperated.

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Movie Identification Thread Anonymous 03/17/2021 (Wed) 14:21:57 Id: e5cda8 No. 418 [Reply]
Do you have screenshot from a movie that you want identified? What about some movie that you saw long ago but don't remember the name? This is the thread for you. >I'll start I'm trying to remember the name of this one movie that I use to watch as a kid. The plot involved this kid looking for a magic ring that shoots a blue death laser so that he can defeat this evil wizard who also has death laser powers. On his journey he meets this lady that turns into a a spider person that tries to eat him and this band of cyclopes that either wants to marry or eat his traveling companion. Also the evil wizard keeps killing dwarves throughout the movie.
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>>693 It's from a Soviet-era kids' movie, 'The Big Space Travel'.
>>916 How were you able to figure out where the movie was from? I tried a brief search and could come up with nothing.
>>886 >>888 Oh by the way after much searching I did find out the name of this movie: Secret Shaolin Kung Fu/Hu die shi ba shi. >>916 Thanks anon!

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B Movies Anonymous 09/26/2020 (Sat) 23:31:19 Id: c5a696 No. 49 [Reply]
What are your favorite B movies? What are some of the worst you have seen? My favorites are Killer Klowns and The Instructor (1981).
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I went through a B movie phase when I was in high school, though I dropped out because they were (nearly) all horrible. This whole "it's so bad, it's good" rarely ever plays out. I'll list some memorable ones (maybe B movie, or maybe films forgotten over time) in case someone out there also suffered the same fate: Teeth (2007) may not be a B movie, but maybe it is. If you want nightmares of your dick getting cut off while having sex, watch it. Otherwise, pretty much feminist garbage. Poultrygeist (2006) is pure degeneracy (and Jewish comedy) at every turn. Watched it shortly after it came out and never touched it again. Meatball Machine (2005) I actually remember liking. But it's been years, so who knows how it stands up at this point. Splatter: Naked Blood (1996) was mediocre at best. I think about the only reason you watch this movie is to watch a woman gradually consume herself. Kids (1995) or anything from Larry Clark and/or Harmony Korine. At least, up until the early 2000s - after that, I guess Korine got some commercial success since he did Spring Breakers (which was also shit). I don't know why I stuck to watching Gummo and Ken Park after watching Kids because they were all shit. I guess since it was constantly recommended and I was some dumbass teenager with no backbone, I thought I was the one who had no taste. But no, they're all trash. Remo Williams (1985) was great. I watched it a few times in high school. I should rewatch it at some point in the future.
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>>274 >Meatball Machine <Tokyo Gore Police and Mutant Girls Squad are definite recommends if you like this kind of thing Have not personally seen Tetsuo: Iron Man but have heard good things about it.
>>49 I liked the original Night of the Demons trilogy.

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Collaborative Subs: Jack and Jill edition Anonymous 07/24/2021 (Sat) 01:21:50 Id: 84fd40 No. 768 [Reply]
Self-explanatory title. >What do I do? Pick 10 minutes of the movie and change the subs to your liking. (Subs here (My ten minutes are there already): https://files.catbox.moe/f7uewf.srt) Just change the .srt extension to .txt and get writing. Download the movie as well to help you.
Has anyone been working on this?
>>797 I've been too busy to type stuff up but I've got a few ideas.

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Evil Dead Thread Anonymous 11/06/2020 (Fri) 06:48:27 Id: 6cd8d6 No. 139 [Reply]
GROOVY EDITION I recently finished the 3rd season of Ash vs Evil Dead. What was that about? Are they going to take the Mad Max route? Who was that robo-chick at the end? Wasn't Raimi planning on a new Evil Dead film called Evil Dead Now with Lee Cronin (i.e Who?) directing it? They said Bruce Campbell won't star in it so it will probably be shit. But hey, let's talk about the good stuff for now. Which is your favorite Evil Dead movie? I love 2 but Army of Darkness takes the crown for me. It's just so fun and features armies of living skeletons so that's a plus.
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>>357 No. All his other notable roles were in the 90's for the most part, with Brisco County and Xena/Hercules. He played Elvis in Bubba Ho-Tep, which was great, but that was ~15~ 20 years ago. He did My Name is Bruce which is a parody of himself and Ash. Ash is his only enduring role and it's what he's best known for. At this stage, I don't think he's gonna shake that. His best shot is Sam Raimi directing a Marvel movie and getting him more than a cameo. If it turns into a recurring role, then kids will know him for that. Which will be shitty, but at this point his career is Ash. I think he's just being dramatic and is upset the show got cancelled, but given the rest of the cast seems to be involved in the Evil Dead series going forward it gives me some kind of hope. Then again, Raimi hasn't done shit in years. He has some cash and some cachet but he's never bothered to put real effort into reviving the series or Bruce Campbell's career. The guy got screwed by Sony but he needs to get back to making stuff.
>>218 Lets hope it's better than the other four Evil Dead games that exist and have their own timeline.
>>382 He did Chuck Finley in Burn Notice pretty well

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Anonymous 11/10/2020 (Tue) 05:08:39 Id: 3e3833 No. 148 [Reply]
Is there any filmmaker more degenerate than Alejandro Jodorowski?
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>>184 A Serbian Film is degenerate the baby rape scene caught me off guard but I don't know if the filmmaker has ever made any other film. I tried looking him up, but I can't find anything. Yet Alejandro Jodorowski and Pier Paolo Pasolini were, and are, praised for their "art" films (albeit the controversy), and they made quite a number of movies that are all filth. So definitely degenerate filmmakers to the boot. Takashi Miike also has some degenerate stuff (like Visitor Q), but he's done so many other movies that are calm and happy that I don't know how I place him.
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>>148 >Alejandro Jodorowski Is that the same Jodorowski that worked on Metal Hurlant and made the Incal series, the spin-offs Metabarons and Technopriests as well as those Borgia comics? >>722 Heard August Underground is way worse because of its realism.

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ITT: Post obscure theories about films that you subscribe to Anonymous 03/14/2021 (Sun) 06:31:29 Id: 58bc0b No. 414 [Reply]
So I have come up with a pet theory I'd like to post regarding Star Wars. Before I get into it, I'd like to mention that I only consider episodes 1-6 canon, so I absolutely do not give a fuck what the books (old canon or new), comics, or video games do to contradict what I'm mentioning. One line that stuck out to me that people regard as a plot hole is the description of Vader's belief system as an "ancient religion" whereas the Jedi order collapsed only a generation prior. While the most rational explanation is that when the OT was made, they did not have a single clue what happened one generation prior, I think there's a way to rectify this line so that it's not a plot hole. That is, the spiritual beliefs espoused in the Qui-Gon Jinn line of Jedi is not and may have never been the orthodox spiritual belief system of the Jedi or of the Sith. Forcism may be some ancient form of animism that more materialistic explanations have overtaken over the course of a very long time. As proof of this theory, I have two arguments. 1) Nothing said by any non-Jinn line Jedi (except maybe Yoda, who is old enough to have taught Qui-Gon or one of his predecessors) indicates that anyone else believes in the Force in the same sense Obi Wan taught about it to Luke. In the prequels there is a distinct lack of spiritual discussion of the force. I believe this implies that true belief in the Force as anything other than the manipulation of midicholorians to make light sabers travel across distances is nearly extinct in that era. 2) There is a very useful power that we never see any non-Jinn line Jedi use in the canon films, that being the jedi mind trick. This power is highly distinct from the rest of the Jedi/Sith power sets, which to my mind indicates that it may be not accessible to the more materialistically-minded Jedi. There may be subsets of what are commonly understood to be Jedi/Sith powers which are actually reserved for members of the ancient forcist religion. In summary, because the canon movies revolve around the Jinn line, I believe there is a severe conflation in the fanbase between aspects of the heretical and mystical ancient cult Obi Wan inducted Luke into (and that Anakin continued to follow even after parting from his mentor) and the actual orthodoxy and power-set of the majority of Jedi and Sith. pic unrelated, I don't want fucking Soy Wars shit on my computer.
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One thing I always found interesting is the strong theme that The Jedi Order is corrupted by the time of the prequels. In interviews and such, Lucas seems to not intend this at all, but in the films themselves, it works so well. Of course there is the bit where The Jedi are turned into a military force, which is acknowledged as being wrong within the films, but then we also see them make multiple judgements that are incorrect, and since they're prequels, we know they're incorrect as they make them. Anakin IS the Chosen One, he does bring balance to The Force, but Yoda was going to disregard that and not allow him in. Qui-Gon, a hippie spiritual type who disregards the letter of the law in favor of its spirit, could sense further ahead and saw that, even though he would do terrible things as Vader, he ultimately still would fulfill his destiny. And not only does he end The Sith, but he also ends The Jedi, as if both were corrupting The Force. And given that we see the Jedi were corrupted, this makes sense. By the end, Luke is the only one left, but he didn't even finish Jedi school, and the Jedi school he dropped out of was obviously not the type that the Jedi Order used before their downfall. Not only was he older, and Yoda had to teach him in unorthodox circumstances, but by that time, Yoda seemed to see and learn from some of his own mistakes as well. Whatever Luke is, he is not the same type of thing that the characters of the prequels were, except for arguably Qui-Gon. Of course, the fact that Qui-Gon was an influence on Anakin is important as well, and a large part of what saves the day in the end, but the fact that he wasn't able to train him fully himself resulted in Anakin being corrupted by Jedi who were themselves already corrupted, notable Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was better than most, due to his training by Qui-Gon, but was shown to never fully get Qui-Gon's teachings, and thus still had a bit of the corrupted, bureaucratic influence of the Order in him, and then this results in him being unable to properly train Anakin. It's not because Obi-Wan is a bad Jedi, he's better than most, but training Anakin was always going to be an extraordinary job, and while he did it well enough to save the day at the very end, it resulted in a lot of messed up stuff in the middle (Darth Vader). When Obi-Wan says that he failed Anakin, he might be hard on himself, but only a tiny bit. He didn't do as well as Qui-Gon would have done, even if he was second best. But of course we can sympathize with his very difficult situation. >tl;dr: The Jedi Council was corrupted by bureaucracy and itself needed to be destroyed, along with The Sith, to bring balance to The Force, and that's precisely what Anakin did. Vader destroying The Jedi was actually the will of The Force. They, like Anakin, had good intentions, but were flawed, and their destruction was ultimately good. In the end, there is no organized religion dedicated to messing with The Force, for good or evil. Both take it out of balance. The movies seem to actually establish this quite well, but in interviews and such, it's like Lucas doesn't even realize he did it. >>414 >the description of Vader's belief system as an "ancient religion" whereas the Jedi order collapsed only a generation prior. This isn't complicated. It was ancient even when it was still practiced. Ancient doesn't have to refer to when it ended. If anything, in almost all uses it would refer to when it began. >Yoda, who is old enough to have taught Qui-Gon or one of his predecessors) Yoda did teach Qui-Gon, not to mention Obi-Wan. This seems like something that was almost a plot hole when they introduced Qui-Gon, until they established that Yoda teaches the younglings. >>415 >Much like how Leia claimed to remember their mother's face in Episode 6 I can buy that this is just a vague memory from birth. That's believable, especially in context. >>416 >Why doesn't everyone use a droid army?

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>>417 I recently got into reading the thrawn trilogy because my friend wouldn't shut up about it and i ended up enjoying it more than the movies.
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>>414 >The prequels are honestly fine, just lacking subtlety. The prequels were an utter failure when the Clone Wars that Obi Wan talked about was just about a bunch of cloned dudes fighting robots and not people duking it out with cloning technology like in The 6th Day. It would made have so much sense more sense why Vader ended up in the Gimp suit and had such a bitter outlook on live, why technology decaded ect. The type of story one could have told with this kind of setup would also be wastly different then this shitty politics plot we got instead.

Horror and Suspense Anonymous 09/22/2020 (Tue) 04:51:29 Id: 07f14a No. 5 [Reply]
Post and talk about your favorites here. Try to keep it about pre 2000 movies because horror movies from the 21st Century are almost universally awful. Hell even mid 90's were pushing it.
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>>692 I like when the monsters of a horror movie aren't explained in detail, but yeah, some of the stuff in the movie doesn't make sense like having electricity. I think if you move pass that though it can be entertaining. I just hope it doesn't become more movies. The second movie's end could be considered a cliffhanger in some ways but mostly leaves things wraped up.
>>699 It works when something is clearly supernatural or cosmically so much more powerful that we can't comprehend it. When it's a movie where you set up very specific rules for why everything is the way it is, you have to answer exactly what the threat really is.
>>25 >If anyone knows any other films where people actively try to figure out how the creature/evil thing works along some line of logic or physical traits, please let me know. Phantoms from 1998 could fit the bill. There is also the "Creature" TV miniseries from the same year. Pitch Black from 2000 would also fall into that category.

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